Walter Mazzarri - Ex Manager

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by wfcmoog, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    It's time. Sorry but he's lost me. We also need to see Ighalo, Capoue, Holebas, Kaboul and several others shipped out ASAP. Club is on the slide.
     
  2. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Agreed. I would keep Capoue and Holebas though. We need a manager who can get them fired up. At the moment both of them do not seem motivated at all.
     
  3. Nuandy

    Nuandy Academy Graduate

    Agree we change formation from week to week something wrong with the amount of injuries we get players look unfit
    Webb need a change or we could go down only palace got less points than us in 2016
     
  4. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Also after the second goal today, I saw Mazzari telling the players to calm down. **** that. Get them fired you *****.
     
  5. brinnyboy1985

    brinnyboy1985 First Year Pro

    I think he's gone solely because the system hasn't improved given the time he's had. I don't agree with Holebas leaving....hopefully 1 or 2 English players come in to gives us back some identity.
     
  6. Agree, he's had his 6 months and we look actually worse than when under QSF

    As for shipping out players I'd offload Deeney, Iggy, Gueds, Watson, Zuniga, Kaboul
     
  7. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Foolish knee jerk nonsense.

    Yes Ighalo out. Yes Gueds out. Yes get some recruits in, but give the manager time to sort it out.
     
  8. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    What's the point? We'll only get another shyte Head Coach in.
     
  9. Necrobutcher

    Necrobutcher Reservist

    He isn't motivating the players. That might be more to do with their attitudes than his methods, but he's sending sides out who just don't give a monkey's.
     
  10. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I hope he's sacked too. Then all the mentally weak wasters in the squad can have yet another stay of execution with a new assessment period under another head coach and really big issues like the ill-discipline and lack of youth development can be ignored again.
     
  11. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    You'd ship Watson out? If fit I'd put him in the team.

    We weren't letting teams walk through the middle when he played last season, whatever you say about his dynamism.
     
  12. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I agree that those issues need addressing, but it doesn't follow that keeping a coach who has done nothing to motivate or drill his players should be at the expense of that.
     
  13. Yes I would because he's not the answer

    While I'm at it I'd also offload Mariappa - that was a stupid waste of time and money signing if ever I saw it. Let go by a Palace side who are almost as defensively poor as us.
     
  14. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    Sorry but halfway through the season, what is the answer? The problem last season was zero attacking midfield threat. We now have it but everyone's injured. Until we have better he should play. Same with calls to change the manager again - not the answer to a poor run of form.
     
  15. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Why? Mariappa isn't contributing at all at the moment so he's not to blame. So why look at him when there's 11 others in a queue to blame first.
     
  16. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    This is guesswork. Mazzarri could be a fantastic motivator but if the players don't want it, performances like today can happen.

    I'm not saying whether it's down to WM or the players, because I don't know. But based on the fact we've had the same problems of lack of fight and motivation, carried over two separate head coaches, suggests to me there's a chance it's down to the group of players, rather than the Head Coach. Although it could a mix of the two.
     
  17. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    Or even more than that, we've just got an average lower mid table squad, who when savaged by injuries will lose more often than win, regardless of manager!
     
  18. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Didn't see him 2nd half .
     
  19. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I would agree. If the owners are prepared to take a view and ship out 5-6 of the ones who started today as well as some of the other deadwood and then Wally can get them to implement a game plan, then fair enough. Maybe I should've said "we need a big change," but that wouldn't have been as provocative, though the fact that none of the moderates have yet called me a ****, suggests that Wally's currency with most of the fans is pretty low.
     
  20. Is not and never was good enough for the prem. Stupid signing which could and should have been filled by a youth player

    I recall saying exactly the same when Gueds came back and everyone shouted me down at the time
     
  21. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    I was going to call you that, but it's New Year's Day, so happy new year
     
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    A championship side with injuries wouldn't set up like we did today against a free-scoring Spurs side. Ok, we're down to bare bones, so set up with a deep, packed midfield in front of the back four and make it hard for Spurs. We played open and disorganised football, but with zero attacking threat as a benefit. It was terrible tactics.

    No manager should be setting his side up like we did today under the same circumstances. That was terrible and that's what makes Mazarri culpable in my view.
     
  23. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Happy New Year to you too.
     
  24. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Why is "h u n k" blocked?
     
  25. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    Today was a shocker on all fronts. There is no questioning that.
     
  26. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I think he's being asked to deal with things that barely ever happen and he has to be judged accordingly. When was the last time we had two games in a row where the formation had to change within a minute of the start, as we have vs Palace and Spurs, because of a player injury? It's fine banging on about drilling players and having a game plan but you can't legislate for that and you have to acknowledge it completely ruins any plans you can reasonably make. He hasn't been able to play the same back three, let alone five, all season. He's being forced to start players who couldn't even make the bench for the first ten games. And all that with a squad of players he largely inherited and has naturally had to spend time assessing in competitive play.

    And now as he gets to his first proper transfer window knowing what he thinks he needs to improve on in our squad, and with a pretty good league table position under his belt to boot, people are ramping up the pressure and calling for him to be binned? We deserve relegation if that's a reflection of where our fans sit.
     
  27. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Can't we go all 'Italian Ultra' on them and storm the training ground?
     
  28. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    The last thing I'm in the mood to do is flirt as I thaw out and delete yet another televised performance from the Sky+ box without watching it.
     
  29. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    What the hell happened to Zuniga who was named in the starting line up. Did he get injured in the warm up? The injuries we are getting are farcical. Any team would struggle with the lack of continuity in the team. As a result we are a poor team that doesn't know what there doing.
     
  30. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    The Pozzo's care about their money and if they see the fans not turning up to games or streaming out 30 minutes before the game finishes, then they'll make some changes - whether that's by changing the Head Coach, investing heavily in players or a mixture of both.

    Who is in charge of our recruitment policy again? Can't belive we've spent almost 30 mill on Jurado, Suarez, Oulare and Docoure
     
  31. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Yeah injured warming up lol
     
  32. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Luke Dowling...
     
  33. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Plus whatever we wasted on Kabasele, Kaboul, Mariappa and Pantilimon.
     
  34. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    When are you people going to realise that it is not only about winning or losing, it is also about the manner of how we are playing as that gives an indication of our potential, or lack of it. A good coach makes the best use of what he has, Walter just hasn't.

    No one, even the most pessimist amongst us, would have been critical had we played something like we are capable of doing, as depleted as we are. Today, our defence was very experienced, all being internationals and our "attack" (for want of a better word) was the best we have got, but we were woeful at both ends. You cannot blame injuries for that.
     
  35. J.B

    J.B First Team

    We should get rid of Gilmartin as well
     

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