[NOT HAPPENING] Matej Vydra

He hasn't done anything better. He scored hatfuls of goals for us and has done the same for Derby. He should never have been sold.
Much higher like who ? Within our budget ..... Who will want to join us ....

 

Says who? The owners and the manager at the times seemed him not good enough and he’s don’t nothing to suggest otherwise since.

As we enter our fourth year in the Prem after selling a player for the more money than any of us could ever have dreamed of, we should be resigning players who were good for us in the championship?

I just don’t get the lack of ambition and the eulogising of a player who has never been proven at the top level.

 

I think it's just the one former player ? Who many think would have scored at this level had he been given the chance by us or a proper chance at WBA. I think its also that we prefer him to what we have now and don't believe that Gino is planning to strengthen up front.

 

Even in his second decent season for us he only scored 16 from 42 in the Championship, which is solid but hardly incredible. Last season he got 21, but in 15/16 it was 3 and 16/17 it was 5!

Like I said a minute ago, there's clearly a reason he's still playing in the Championship and that no Premier League side deems him to be good enough to bring in.

 

I can't see anyone paying anything more than a nominal fee for Okaka. He's proven himself incapable of fitness

 

We run the risk of another 20 pages on this. Obviously i'm not suggesting we sign players who were good for us in the chanpionship and obviously it wasn't more money than many could have dreamed of. So who do you think we will sign ? Do you prefer to rely on Okaka, Success and Penaranda banging them in upfront ?

 

I mean over the years. Vydra is certainly not the only one our fans have obsessed over in this illogical manner.

Many of our fans might think he would score at this level with their rose tinted glasses fully on, but our owners and coaching staff clearly didn't, and neither does any other Premier League team, hence why he is still playing in the Championship and being linked with sideways moves.

 

Many of those were as sub after Xmas when Ighalo went on his undroppable scoring streak.

 

Like this alcacer chap better strikers don't want to join us , thus we will never get an affordable premier striker that everyone on here thinks we can get , reality check time , we can't afford to spend as much as most of our competitors, we get players with potential that see us as a stepping stone to a bigger club . our list of strikers is furher shortened by ones that want to come to vicarage road.
If we could get Vydra on the cheap for say 5 to 7 million and he manages to score 7 or 8 goals , that wouldn't be bad value in today's inflated market.

 

We will always be chasing strikers that are on their way down from their peak ,or unearthing the odd rough diamond , or going for injury prone players(our specialty)
I certainly don't see Gino spending 26m on ogri or whatever his name is .

 

<---- I want to see this again.

 

Whilst I agree that their must be a reason why nobody has taken a punt on him in the PL yet, I would temper that with I don’t think the times that he’s had the opportunity that he’s really been given a fair run of things. The guy clearly has talent and can finish. I think he was let go under QSF as he clearly didn’t want to be the backup striker and wanted regular football - whilst we could receive a good fee, the move worked in everyone’s interest. But I don’t think he was necessarily sold 100% on the basis that he had nothing to offer. A good friend of mine supports WBA and he has said a few times that he wasn’t given a fair go at The Hawthornes and the fans liked him.

I don’t understand why some people on here get so worked up at the suggestion though and think it’s an obsession with former players. People joke about Abdi and Fessi and both were class on their day - especially Almen. But I don’t think anyone would genuinely have them back in our squad now. Vydra is the only one people seriously mention and I kinda see why.

I’d be happy if we signed him as a player we use as a Plan B off the bench to go two up front. Or even to start in a 2. But I get the impression we are looking for someone who can play on his own and that isn’t Vydra.

I also think given his pre-season form, Gray is going to be given the chance to carry it into the season. I’d be surprised if we spent big on a striker now.

 

I'm so angry that some of you so called fans want back Vydra. So angry in fact that I won't write a multi-paragraphic post about why it's so stupid in protest.

 

I am on holiday just down the road from Buckie, if we think a personal visit would help such a major signing I'd be happy to oblige.

Here till Friday so just let me know.

 

According to Rob Dorsett of Sky Sports:

"Matej Vydra’s £11m move to #lufc from #dcfc has collapsed: he couldn’t agree personal terms.

I’m told he didn’t want to join a club that finished below Derby last season."

Anyway, there's a reason nobody above Leeds has gone for him yet, he's not a Premier League striker. Nor are we a Championship club anymore. We'll find someone else, calm down.

 

I just don't understand why fans are so against signing FF and Vydra.

They re easily good enough for Prem, and even if they were nt it d still be great to have them back

 

I do love a Vydra thread! And it looks like I’m not the only one.

I agree with all of this Burnsy. I remember the baggies fans were frustrated with Vydra not being used enough. They saw enough to know he has quality at this level. I don’t believe he can’t step up. I just don’t think head coaches like him (apart from Zola, and Rowett to a lesser extent). I don’t think it’s down to his footballing abilities. We all know he can finish (“best one on one striker since Mo Johnstone” etc etc).

I find it amusing that people say categorically that he’s not Premier League standard without actually ever seeing him have a proper crack. How do you know that? We all lament Gray’s first touch because it lets him down far too often. Vydra hasn’t just got a good first touch compared with Gray, he’s got a great first touch compared with other top players. He is probably as quick as Gray and takes his chances. The problem is NOT lack of talent, although I do accept he might not be as physically strong as others.

I know that if we did sign him and he took his place in the squad then in theory we would have a goal scorer to call upon if needed. The problem is that he’s just not the sort of player who will settle for being on the bench. He is a confidence player who needs games and he needs a certain system. When he doesn’t get games, or he doesn’t get to play the system he thrives in, his head drops and his form suffers.

I like the fact he’s questioned Leeds’ prospects. That’s funny. On that basis I think Gino needs to pick up the phone, get him back down for a chat for old time’s sake, find out if he’s grown up at all. If so then introduce him to Javi if all parties agree then offer him a 10 year contract.

 

I've been righter than all of those many times before. And I'm right about Vydra

 

I can’t believe that nobody has considered this before.

 

Been out all day in Dubrovnik. Has this fat fecker signed for us then or what?

 

Would he Better than Gray? That is the ultimate question. I think he would. There are players who have looked less capable of making the step up who have done well. I agree that he would thrive more if he was first choice.

 

At the moment the forum is still in negotiations. I can’t beleive there are some people who don’t want him.

 

Two wrongs don’t make a right though do they? By all accounts Gray has been a bit of a flop, he may well be better than Gray but should that really be the yardstick we measure any new strikers by?

 

Vydra is definitely not a Premier League quality striker if you play him as a lone striker.

Whether or not he can cut it as part of a front two is still unanswered.

 

Why do Watford supporters constantly suffer from nostalgia? Neither FF or MV would likely be anything other than average in this league. That's why they haven't been picked up in the last few years by any other PL clubs even the ones that got promoted & know these two players as well as we do.

We don't play Championship football anymore.

Guaranteed next summer it will be 'get Ighalo back from China'

It's in the past & needs to stay there as postive memories.

 

Exactly. We are a prem club not a champ club. We shouldn't be considering anyone who hasn't demonstrated they can bang them in consistently in the prem or top flight German, Spanish or Italian football. Also they need to be 24 or younger so they have a decent resale value. Oh, and they need to be available for about £15m. Can someone pull a list together and then Gino can just focus on the top 20 and we can shortlist the very top 3 potentials.

Oh and we really don't want a striker who is only "bang average" in the premier league.

 

You can never have a sensible debate with someone who has David Brent like sarcasm + who uses logic like this.

 

This is more divisive than brexit

 

To be fair, the sarcasm is based on a lot of what people are saying on here.

 

I broke up with my fifth wife yesterday. She suggested we should sign back Vydra.

It couldn't go on.

 

End of.

 

Sure, its all just opinions, but no one dare answer the question why they haven't been picked up by any promoted PL team, 'let alone' an established one in the last 4 seasons. That's not chance. Might change my mind, but doubt it.

It's all nostalgic waffle. This is a completely different league in all respects.

 

I'm sorry but you have got to stop setting different barriers for MV than you do for other players. We cannot only buy players who have a track record of scoring goals in the prem, Serie A etc. They cost more than we sold Richie for. It will be 1/ an inexperienced striker with few goals to date but lost of promise, or 2/ a proven scorer, but not in the prem or 3/ an ageing proven prem scorer like Crouch, Llorente etc. Which do you prefer ? If 2, why not MV given he never really had a chance in the prem ?

 

That's a total non-point.

No one picked Hughes up before we signed him, but that didn't make him a bad signing.

 

You keep saying ‘they’? But I’ve addressed the fact that clearly Vydra is the only one people are serious about. No one is calling for Fessi to come back this summer.

You clearly have strong opinions. But it’s not for you to say that other people’s thoughts are ‘nostalgic waffle’. I have already said that there are reasons I wouldn’t sign him. But also their aspects about him that I like and frankly I don’t care that no one has taken a chance on him. Maybe those clubs have been priced out of a move by Derby - there could be a number of reasons just beyond they don’t think he’s good enough. I think he’s a more natural finisher than what we have, I think he uses his strengths better than the strikers we have. And I think his style of play suits the midfielders we have at the club who can play the ball through the defensive line.

You don’t agree. That’s your prerogative. But not everyone wants him just because of the old days. And there’s quite a few teams in this division who aren’t long out of the Championship so it’s not different in ALL respects as you claim.