Players contracts

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by nak108, Oct 29, 2008.

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  1. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Going to move this over to the transfers section now that the window has closed and there's a lot of transfer debate here.
     
  2. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    We had better offer Bennet a new improved contract, he had another blinder down at Plymouth last night.
     
  3. Hornet36

    Hornet36 Reservist

    Loach- 2012
    he will be sold way b4 it runs out
     
  4. DrewH

    DrewH Administrator Staff Member

    Will be interesting to see who stays and goes out of this list.
     
  5. nak108

    nak108 International Captain

    It will. I don't think I'd offer any of them a contract yet, alot of youngsters in there so they'll have to really prove themselves to have potential this season. Harley and Hoskins are the two that I'd definitely release at the moment, but, even though I doubt it will happen, they might just really impress later on this season.
     
  6. Timbers

    Timbers Apeman

    Well I hope Eustace is given a new contract after the way he has played this year so far and the fact that he re-negotiated it so that we do not have to pay him as much appearance money.

    Demerit will get an offer, whether he will take it I do not know and I am sure Bennet, Kiernan and Sordell will be offered terms. The others will most likely go, including Lee, who must surely want first team football at his age (of course Loach might be sold by then!)
     
  7. wfc-4ever

    wfc-4ever Squad Player

    What i would do

    DeMerit- New deal, one or two years

    North- Not sure depends how good Bo Antal is, if richard lee goes or loach does. Plus i have only seen him a few times and never really had anything to do.

    Harley- Maybe let him go, personally i think he should be given a run at left back. I think that he will do better than doyley there after being given a nice run.

    Lee- Depends if loach goes, but i suppose as second choice he would be fine but would he want to stay on that?

    Bennett- New deal two years i would guess. I was impressed after seeing him in the reserves and after his two first team starts recently the boy did great.

    Hoskins- I would give him a new deal and i think he should be used more but if malky isnt going to use him them there's no point given him a new contract.

    Henderson- Umm not sure too early to tell i would say

    Young- Atm no after seeing him maybe three times never done a lot. Again maybe to early to tell

    Parkes- Not sure leave it atm

    Eustace- Already signed a new deal hasnt he? Another season just i think

    Kiernan- Looks a fairly decent player give him another season or two, still young and therefore wages wont be to high

    Sordell- Not sure about him any striker with pace and strength can be lethal if they have at least some technical ability. To me his technical ability isnt good enough but like i said earlier due to his speed and strength i would give him a bit more time.

    Gibson- Didnt look good to me when seeing him in the reserves looks northing special plenty of players like him at small clubs and semi pro clubs, let him go.
     
  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Gibson has been injured for a year or so but just coming back so maybe they'll give him a chance for a futher year.

    I don't see Young/Parkes staying if they don't break through.

    Like to keep the young defenders as we hardly have any (feel DeMerit might go if he has a good World cup with the States)
     
  9. tom1wat

    tom1wat Reservist

    DeMerit- 2010 - Yes, so long as we can afford it.
    North- 2010 - No.
    Harley- 2010 - God love him, but he don't play. No.
    Lee- 2010 - Yes. Pefectly good number two for another year.
    Bennett- 2010 - Yes 2 years to develop.
    Hoskins- 2010 - Not unless Malky's actually gonna use him.
    Henderson- 2010 - No.
    Young- 2010 - No.
    Parkes- 2010 -No.
    Eustace- 2010 - Another year.
    Kiernan- 2010 - Decent prospect, 2 more years.
    Sordell- 2010 - See how he goes this year.
    Gibson- 2010 - Another year after injuries.
     
  10. Chewitt

    Chewitt Forum Extraordinaire

    Pretty much agree although i'd keep Harley, i can't imagine he's breaking the bank and adds much needed experience, versatility and cover to the squad.
     
  11. tom1wat

    tom1wat Reservist

    Actually I'd go along with keeping Harley.
     
  12. Smithy

    Smithy Moderator Staff Member

    I second that. All of the above seems spot on for me plus I would also keep Harley for the same reason Chewitt has said.
     
  13. Chewitt

    Chewitt Forum Extraordinaire

    My powers of persuasion do the trick yet again. :cool:
     
  14. tom1wat

    tom1wat Reservist

    Hahaha. Derren 'Chewitt' Brown anyone?!
     
  15. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    find it hilarious how everyone was like get rid of Mariappa lol
     
  16. nak108

    nak108 International Captain

    DeMerit
    North
    Harley
    Lee
    Bennett
    Hoskins
    Henderson
    Young
    Parkes
    Eustace
    Kiernan
    Sordell
    Gibson
    Antal

    These are the ones whose contracts run out in the summer, who would you give a new deal? or would you wait and see how they perform.
     
  17. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    The ones I feel qualified to comment on.

    DeMerit - if we can afford him but unlikely so sell now
    Harley - if we can afford him
    Lee - yes a good number 2 and potential back room staffer
    Bennett - yes
    Hoskins - no point if we're not playing him
    Henderson - yes if reasonable wage
    Young - yes
    Eustace - if we can afford him
    Sordell - hearing good things so yes
     
  18. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    DeMerit - i would like him to stay, but he certainly does not fit with our wage structure at the moment, YES

    North - not a clue?

    Harley - useful player to have in the squad yes

    Lee - probably the best second string keeper we could get yes

    Bennett - yes, very impressed earlier in the season, he could be demerits replacement yes

    Hoskins - no get rid, waste of space and wages

    Henderson - he has a lot to offer and is only young, yes

    Young - surely worth keeping on the basis of his brothers talent, may be a late bloomer yes

    Parkes - i hear good things, reserve captain now right? expect good things next year yes

    Eustace - similar to demerit, his experience is key, if willing to lower wage slightly to fit our wage bill then a definate yes

    Kiernan - not a clue

    Sordell - not seen him play, one for the future yes

    Gibson - not a clue

    Antal - he is tall, which is always a good quality in a keeper, yes
     
  19. Bunk

    Bunk Reservist

    JD wont be here next season, so we might as well sell him in January to ensure he doesnt walk away for nothing.

    I dont think Rich Lee will settle for another season on the bench, so I think he will go.

    Harley I'd keep, he's experienced and he has that bit of quality from the wide areas that we lack at the moment.

    Eustace could be a problem as far as wages is concerned, while the likes of Bennett, Sordell and Young are all worth a new deal.

    Henderson I'd let go, as I would with Hoskins
     
  20. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    are you a hendo-hater?
     
  21. Bunk

    Bunk Reservist

    Not a hater, but I just dont think he's Championship standard.
     
  22. TheDon

    TheDon First Team

    DeMerit - Do our best to keep him
    North - See how he turns out, he's still young especially for a keeper
    Harley - Good squad player, keep
    Lee - Keep especially if loach goes, still a quality keeper IMO
    Bennett - Get him a new deal, could be a great players
    Hoskins - Farrrrrk off
    Henderson - Give him another year
    Young - Hasnt been given a chance really?
    Parkes - Supposed to play for england? Havent seen much from him really, let go.
    Eustace - Another year, see how it goes
    Kiernan - Still Young, havent seen anything from him
    Sordell - Keep, looks a handy striker
    Gibson - Havent seen much from him either, add a year see how it goes
     
  23. gloryhornhaz

    gloryhornhaz Reservist

    Demerit will be gone in the Summer.

    If we dont go up
     
  24. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    DeMerit - Like to keep, but best to try and get something for him in Jan as he has said he will be looking at moving after the WC.

    North - Only if we need him, but probably not.

    Harley - Probably yes, we need some experience in the squad to bring the youngsters on.

    Lee - Definitely Yes, as there is a good chance he will be our No 1 as Loach may have to be sacrificed to the money god, but I would keep him anyway as I am sure he is not too unhappy as a No2.

    Bennett - Yes from what I have seen of him, it won't be long before he is a regular 1st teamer.

    Hoskins - We must make every effort to sell him in January, as he clearly does not fit into MM's plans. Although I do not understand why?

    Henderson - Until the QPR game I would have said let him go, but he might be worth another year?

    Young - He has never impressed me, so I think we should try to off load him.

    Parkes - A bit of an enigma this one, but probably worth another year?

    Eustace - If we can afford him Yes.

    Kiernan - Don't know a lot about the lad, but I've heard some good things, so probably yes.

    Sordell - Yes, the lad has looked OK so far.

    Gibson - Don't no much about him, so not sure?

    Antal - Ditto above, but if Loach goes he should probably stay.
     
  25. DrewH

    DrewH Administrator Staff Member

    http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/5016554.No_contract_talks_held_by_Hornets/

    Watford have yet to open contract negotiations with a number of first-team squad members whose current deals run out this summer.

    John Eustace, Jon Harley and Will Hoskins are just three of the current squad whose contracts run out at the end of the season.

    When asked whether negotiations have started yet, Watford manager Malky Mackay replied: "Not quite yet, we will be looking at that pretty soon, as to people's contracts, but it has not started yet."

    Watford captain Jay DeMerit's current deal expires in the summer but the USA international has been openly honest by stating he does not wish to start negotiations until after this summer's World Cup in South Africa.

    Second choice keeper Richard Lee's contract is also up due to the club only offering the Academy graduate a one-year deal last summer when the 27-year-old had hoped for a two-year deal.

    There are a host of young professionals whose current contracts expire at the end of this season. Dale Bennett, Jonathan North, Billy Gibson, Liam Henderson and Lewis Young are all out of contract this year.

    Harley, 30, and Hoskins, 23, have mainly been used from the bench this season and as the pair are two of the club’s higher earners, their futures are uncertain as Watford have made no secret of their desire to reduce the club’s wage bill.

    A number of players arrived at Vicarage Road either when the Hornets were in the Premier League or in their first season in the Championship, when the club maintained a high wage bill in a bid to return at the first time of asking.

    But Mackay claims Watford will not be making any "sweeping statements" over whether these players will have to take a pay cut.

    He said: "Everyone is on their own individual merits in terms of having discussions with them.

    "I think you have to do it like that. Everyone is in a different situation and in a different point in their career and will have different attractions and options.

    "There is no sweeping statement where I would say there will be any across-the-board way we will treat everyone."
     
  26. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    Apart from the 4 I've pointed out, can't say I'd be too worried about any going.

    Bryan, Sordell and Gibson are pretty hard to judge, seeing as they've had few games for Watford.

    Wouldn't mind Hoskins staying, but £7k a week is a lot and Buckley seems to be pretty similar.
     
  27. Evasive

    Evasive Requiescat in pace

    I think Eustace has had a good season for us this season, but I expect he will be too expensive to keep.
     
  28. nascot

    nascot First Team

    DeMerit- 2010
    North- 2010 - keep
    Harley- 2010 - keep (but will probably go)
    Lee- 2010 -
    Bennett- 2010 - keep
    Hoskins- 2010
    Henderson- 2010
    Young- 2010
    Eustace- 2010 - keep (but will probably go)
    Bryan- 2010
    Sordell- 2010 - keep
    Gibson- 2010


    The rest can fark off.
     
  29. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    I'd imagine a lot would depend on if we stay up or not - if we don't, the likes of Harley and Eustace will probably leave, but if we stay up we may have a chance of keeping them.

    Especially as we'll get a percentage of Newcastle's and West Brom's parachute payments when they go back up, assuming we stay up!
     
  30. Bobby Downes

    Bobby Downes Reservist

    DeMerit fark right off canunt
    North fark off
    Harley keep
    Coco Lee keep for comedy factor alone
    Bennett keep
    Hoskins keep but on reduced wages
    Henderson fark off
    Young fark off
    Eustace keep
    Bryan keep
    Sordell keep
    Gibson not sure
     
  31. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    DeMerit- keep but not as captin
    North- 2010 - keep
    Harley- 2010 - keep if we go down, go if we stay up
    Lee- 2010 - keep
    Bennett- 2010 - keep
    Hoskins- 2010 - go
    Henderson- 2010 - 1 year in league 1, go if stay up
    Young- 2010 - go
    Eustace- 2010 - keep
    Bryan- 2010 - keep
    Sordell- 2010 - keep but not setting the world alight down the leauges
    Gibson- 2010 keep
     
  32. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    DeMerit- 2010 Thanks or the good times good luck in the future
    North- 2010 - Keep
    Harley- 2010 - keep if we can afford him
    Lee- 2010 - keep
    Bennett- 2010 - keep
    Hoskins- 2010 - he's never going to get the chance so go
    Henderson- 2010 - loan out for a year
    Young- 2010 - dunno
    Eustace- 2010 - keep and make captain
    Bryan- 2010 - dunno
    Sordell- 2010 - loan out for a year
    Gibson- 2010 - loan out for a year
     
  33. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    DeMerit- 2010 - Bye bye.
    North- 2010 - Go.
    Harley- 2010 - Keep if possible (wages).
    Lee- 2010 - Keep.
    Bennett- 2010 - Keep.
    Hoskins- 2010 - Keep on lower wages.
    Henderson- 2010 - F**k right off.
    Young- 2010 - Not a clue.
    Eustace- 2010 - Keep on reduced wages and make captain.
    Bryan- 2010 - Keep.
    Sordell- 2010 - 1 year.
    Gibson- 2010 - Not a clue.
     
  34. wfc-4ever

    wfc-4ever Squad Player

    I agree but i would keep hoskins as long a she is given a chance otherwise its a waste of money. Also with change of captain as jay is a good player but not captain material
     
  35. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    Has anyone been to enough reserve/youth games to judge North, Young, Bryan, Sordell or Gibson properly? I'd like to know just how good they are, and they've played few or no games this year...
     
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