[SIGNED perm] Josh King

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  1. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    I am pleased with this signing. Has a point to prove.

    Regarding Capoue I always got the impression he liked being a big fish in a small pond here.
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  2. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Some Spanish media outlets today and yesterday stated that Real Betis were in for him. Whether it’s true or not who knows. Considering they finished in one of the European places, I think that’s a decent gauge to say, what kind of clubs were in for/looking at him.

    Question for everyone, would you rather King or Toney as our starting striker?

    Personally I would much rather King be our starting striker than Toney. King has proven himself in the Prem multiple seasons. Toney is an unknown. Can he do it in the Prem? Maybe, but I’m not convinced. Personally think he will struggle. Up against much stronger defences, will be manmarked in most games, Brentford will do more defending than attacking, and he won’t have the space he was given in the championship because teams were scared of him and Brentford. Of course I could be completely wrong and he bags 15 odd goals and this comment will look stupid, but that’s my thought right now.

    King simply knows what it takes to be successful in the Prem. If AL article in the Athletic is true and King is fired up, ready to go, excited to be here and all that good stuff, then we’ve given ourselves a very good chance of staying in the Prem with King signing for us.
  3. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Would take Toney all day long, that’s not to say I think King is a bad signing.
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  4. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Why though?

    Not arguing, genuine question. I’m interested to know your thought(s) behind that.
  5. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Toney is 25 vs King 29

    King scored 6 goals in four seasons in the championship with Blackburn, Toney scored 30 in one season.

    Now I know King scored 16 in one PL season which Toney has never done, but that was very much the high water mark and it’s been downhill from there.

    I think all things considered Toney has the far greater upside potential at this point in time, just because King once scored 16 in a season there are no guarantees he’ll ever come close to that again.

    it’s very much an opinion though, and looking at who I think could achieve more from here on in
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  6. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Another 'dunno but let's see' signing for me.
  7. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Good signing. Probably the pinnacle of what business we can achieve with our budget and current status as relegation probables.
  8. Charly says

    Charly says Academy Graduate

    Don't understand why we haven't gone all in for Mbappe.
  9. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    No he didn't
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  10. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    It's my understanding that a deal was done in principle for Mbappe but Gino pulled the plug after his penalty miss.
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  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Couldn’t get it done in instalments.
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  12. Johnny Todd Sings

    Johnny Todd Sings First Year Pro

    Rubbish. No one has ever looked stupid on this site. Anyway, whatever you write here will be forgotten and no one will ever remind you of it in the next few years.
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  13. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Toney clearly.

    Last season King didn't score in 584 minutes for Muff, while Toney scored a goal every 125 minutes for Brentford (or every 188 minutes if you exclude penalties). So Toney would have got 3 open play goals during the time King was blanking.

    King has been good in the past, but he's probably beyond his peak.

    Toney will for sure find it much more difficult next season, and looked a bit burned out at the end of last season, but I think he still has more upside in future.

    It will be interesting to see how they fare next season of course. Though if King scores more than Toney it could just be because we currently appear to be strengthening our team more than Brentford.
  14. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Don't worry, I've already made a mental note of Marko's opinion.
  15. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Of course Toney . But it is not an option anymore than Kane signing is .
    For sure tho King is an upgrade on Trondre Success .
  16. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

  17. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    On the contrary, he was on his hot streak prior to reverting to the mean with us! I suppose Ighalo's form came completely out of the blue, although he was younger than King at the time
  18. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I thought we snubbed him in favour of Seferovic?
  19. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    I was joking, but perhaps his next club will get that hot streak again...

    Ighalo had a freak 12 months for sure.
  20. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    L*ton will definitely get the best out of him, with us paying for the pleasure...
  21. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Yeah - their whole front 3 went off the boil at the same time. I also dont think we can really judge him too heavily on what happened at Muff this season. He went from having Man U interested in him to being relegated and Bournemouth blocking his exit despite some fairly reasonable bits for him. Capoue looked pretty ***** with us and then went on and bossed the EL final.

    Its hard to really assess what happened at Everton without anyone of us knowing what happened behind the scenes. Ancelotti was supposedly interested enough to come back in for him in January having had bids turned down in the summer, but then he proceeded to basically never play him despite Everton being in ******* awful form.

    I don't think we will necessarily see that 16 goal a season Josh King again, but I also don't think he is as bad as he has looked the last 12 months. I do think he improves our starting 11 which is more than can be said for most of our transfer business this summer.
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  22. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I know Brentford are planning to sign Nigerian international Frank Onyeka from their sister club Midtjylland, but he doesn't automatically qualify for a work permit I don't think. Nothing better as a fan than a play-off final victory, but as a club, it's far better to get promoted automatically!
  23. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    King hasn't been interested in playing for Muff ever since they blocked his move to Man Utd. As we saw with Capoue (and to a lesser extent Doucoure), an unmotivated player just doesn't perform.

    Whether or not he'll turn it on for us remains to be seen.

    As far as Toney is concerned, there's a bit of a question mark over him and Brentford at the moment. The Brentford team is set up to aggressively create chances for the striker. Gray would have scored a lot more with them than he would with us, for example.

    Whether or not Brentford will be able to continue to play like that in Prem and enjoy success is something we're about to see. Brentford's approach in the Championship has essentially been to outgun everyone they play. Chances are that won't work in the Premier League, unless the teams outside the top 6 are a lot weaker than usual.
  24. Brentford are used to having the ball. They will learn very quickly in the PL it is the opposition who have the ball. How that affects Toney will be interesting to see.
  25. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet First Year Pro

    This is a decent signing . Not sure what people were expecting but as far as getting a proven premier league scorer this is probably about as good as we are gonna be able to sign . If he can find his form again will get a few goals and could be vital
    in keeping us up .
  26. PotGuy

    PotGuy Forum Fetishist

    Better than anyone we have, about as good a signing as I would have thought we could make

    Interesting we are in for tall strikes. Fletcher and king are both close to 2m, I'm guessing that we can expect that to be a bigger part of our game next year
  27. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Judging by how they did at our place in December when they were down to 10 men, he'll probably do quite well
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  28. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    King is good signing and he is eager to prove people wrong after last season - he has a physical presence and pace …. Oh and he can control a football - he will do well for us and I can see him, as out main no.9 getting around 12 goals for us in the league which will be very welcome
  29. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    He is much better than what we have so he is a good signing
  30. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Good point. They were fifth in the Championship for possession after all. Luckily, we were sixth with a fraction less possession each game, so we're on easy street. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes going forwards!
  31. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    ******* hell this has broken a dream for me, seeing his name on the forum. It was from a few night ago, I’m on a new antihistamine so I’m having weird dreams.

    Him and Mason Mount combined for King to score a hat trick against us at Filbert Street for an unidentified team in blue…. Yeah I have plot holes in my dreams. It included a lovely one two and him blasting one in with his left foot.

    Anyway, a good omen for you no doubt.
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  32. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Don't care if we get relegated, as long as we take you down with us, it's all worth it ;)
  33. Relegating Leicester has to be our Everest. Utter b******s, every last one of them.
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  34. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Be careful not to become the thing you hate.

    Who said that? Ghandi or Yoda or someone.
  35. I think I heard it on Blue Peter.
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