Adalberto Penaranda

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by foxywfc, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. gregibelieve

    gregibelieve First Year Pro

    Mercado Makers ‏@MercadoMakers 1h1 hour ago
    We understand Peñaranda won't join #Watford from #Granada this summer due to difficulties in securing a work permit.
    mmm cmon pozzos. surely we have time to work out the work permits?
     
  2. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    As great as the Pozzos are, if he doesn't fulfil the criteria then he ain't coming I'm afraid.
     
  3. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Not sure how he doesn't qualify under the exceptional talent category, seeing as he was being chased by some of the biggest names across the continent.

    One more year in Spain however, and I believe he qualifies a lot more easily. Might be worth giving him more experience at a high level, as he still looked very raw when I watched him towards the tail end of last season.
     
  4. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    If 1 more year in Spain effectively voids his need for a work permit in the future then let it happen

    Another year of La Liga football every week can only benefit the player anyway
     
  5. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Pozzo just needs to press the "appeal" button. Works in football manager anyway.
     
  6. TringOrn

    TringOrn First Year Pro

    I was a bit disappointed reading this so looked the tweet up and it's from an account with just 38 followers. I can't seem to find the information anywhere else. It's most likely a load of nonsense.
     
  7. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    Bearing in mind he is our player, it might be better for his progress to loan him to Udinese.
     
  8. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Would do absolutely nothing for his work permit eligibility however.
     
  9. sherlock

    sherlock Tippytappy footy expert

    At Udine we fans would certainly not object. :sign13:
    Also, even without my bias, I agree it would be better to have him in a Pozzo's club rather than send him on loan to "strangers".
    Meanwhile, in one more season he'd probably become a regular in Venezuelan team (he has 2 caps already), so the following year he'd be more easily eligible for the work permit.
     
  10. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Doubt it. Venezuela are tinpot.
     
  11. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    The Home Office rules state that it would only apply to players playing more than 75% of matches (when not injured/suspended) for a top 50 FIFA ranked country, Venezuela are ranked somewhere around 80.
     
  12. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Loan him to Porto with an option to buy
     
  13. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I will be very surprised if Duxbury and Gino have not got all this covered
     
  14. Roger Irrelevant

    Roger Irrelevant Reservist

  15. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Squad Player

    Disagree, he should be sold outright to Sheffield Wednesday.
     
  16. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Loaned to reading with a compulsory purchase clause if they go up
     
  17. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Who? Sheffield Wednesday?
     
  18. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Anton Ferdinand
     
  19. YellowYoshi

    YellowYoshi Reservist

    His loan at Granada runs until next season anyway. I'm sure Pozzo would have cut it short if a work permit was secured, but I think AP was always going to remain at Granada next season.
     
  20. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I wonder how the Copa America will effect any work permit decision. He's in the squad, likely to play and acknowledged by a large number of media outlets as one of the 'players to watch' at the tournament.

    Looking at the points based system for players that don't qualify through their nations ranking with FIFA, it appears that getting 4 points would generally get a recommendation from the FA that he receive a work permit.

    'The value of the transfer fee being paid for the player is between the 50th and 75th % of all transfers to Premier League clubs in the previous 2 windows' - 2 points.

    The fee was £8m wasn't it? Not sure of the average but that sounds like it could be between 50% and 75% of the transfers made over the last two windows. It also might make sense why the Pozzo's did it in the first place.

    'The wages being paid to the player by the applicant club is in the top 25% of the top 30 earners at the club' - 3 points.

    I think it's safe to say that he would be in the top 25% earners at the club if he did join as generally we don't have a bloated wage bill at the club. And even if the tier below was where he fell in terms of wages (50-75% of the top 30 earners at the club), that still gets the 4 points that generally results in a recommendation that a permit is granted.

    Those points plus the fact that he's easily played more than 30% of Granada's total league minutes in La Liga this season, plus his upcoming role at Copa America as supporting evidence should make a recommendation that he get a permit somewhat simple.

    If these still are the rules (as they were in December 2015), I think there can be a level of confidence that he'll be at the club, if he wants to be, next season.
     
  21. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    I'd prefer he stays in Granada another year and secures a Spanish passport. It removes work permit worries from the equation and will only push his future value up significantly.
     
  22. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Would it be taking the pee too much if we paid Granada a Pound over the limit we need to qualify for those two points?

    We need to be exploiting these loopholes hard. No shame. Get the that fat beardy journo fella and the opposition fans moaning again.
     
  23. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    "fat beardy journo fella" is probably the nicest thing Samuels has ever been called!
     
  24. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    yeah, it's amazing someone actually referred to him as a "journo"
     
  25. sherlock

    sherlock Tippytappy footy expert

    Penaranda might be playing (maybe), one hour from now, in Jamaica-Venezuela in Copa America.
    I don't know how long I'll stay awake (match begins at 11PM Italy time), but I'm quite curious to watch him play (if he plays of course) in an important match, probably the only one which is a possible win for Venezuela, as Mexico and Uruguay seem too strong for them.
     
  26. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    On the bench for Venezuela this evening.
     
  27. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Came on for the last 13mins or so. Won 3 free kicks, each from going on a direct run. Held the ball up pretty well as well. Definitely didn't have a lot to get into the game but was a pretty good cameo. You can see the potential.
     
  28. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Layun has been outstanding for Mexico during their first half against Uruguay.
     
  29. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    [video=youtube;6DZypA6e-dc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DZypA6e-dc[/video]

    CHEEKY
     
  30. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    Penaranda

    Watching him live now for the first time vs Uruguay, he is absolutely breathtaking.
     
  31. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    Yeah, but did he understand his defensive role?
     
  32. NorwegianOrn

    NorwegianOrn Academy Graduate

    [video=youtube;XOSfGL-vFwI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOSfGL-vFwI[/video]
     
  33. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Looks good! Showed his speed with the ball when clean through. Shame he missed it though!

    Hope he comes.
     
  34. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Holy Sh*t.
     

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