Werewolf XVI: Day 2

Unless I have missed something then we only have 3 names in the frame

Miked2006
The Voice Of Reason
darave8

There the only 3 that have been named in messages

darave8 was named by the wolf yesterday as good, which suggests that he wants to protect himself

TVoR has been named by the wolf today as good - is he trying to protect himself or is the wolf trying to divert attention to him and stitch him up ?

Miked2006 has been named as good by what I think is today's seer

I think at this moment darave8 is in a very uncomfortable position

 

If we can say that the seer viewed Cude yesterday, and the wolf said that darave was good:

For some reason the wolves want us to think VOR is innocent today, and wanted us to think Darave was innocent yesterday.

It could be the alphas tactic to just claim everybody is innocent and watch us scramble after the puzzle.

But they made a bad mistake today by telling us to look at Darave. It meant that the other poster would have been the one who looked at Cude on the first day, if they were telling the truth.

We (I say we but I will likely be dead) need to go for VOR today, and then look at Darave tomorrow if VOR is innocent.

I say to look at VOR first as if he is innocent, it might suggest that Opti is the traitor.

 

I read that as them saying "viewing Cude was lucky". Regardless, it doesn't add up because if they aren't taking credit, they are naming me good one day and suggesting people lynch me the next?!

 

viewing anyone evil on the first day was lucky

 

I currently think:

Day 1 message 1 was the Seer naming Darave8 as good.
Day 1 message 2 was the wolf unluckily killing his own guy (unlucky Mr wolfman - Mwahaha!).

Day 2 message 1 was the Seer naming Miked as good.
Day 2 message 2 was the Wolf naming who he obviously knows as good Darave8 as mentioned by the Seer yesterday.

I see no reason to land TVOR in it from message 2 just yet as could be another random picked by the Wolf who is still unaware of any other wolves, and who could still have inadvertently named his own guy (unlucky again Mr wolfman!)

As an aside, I’ve mentioned With A Smile twice today as a potential suspect which he has ignored both times. And now WAS's sole attention is on Darave8, as was the second message - 2 known wolves conspiring?

I can't help but think we have a "smiling" wolf in our midst.

 

And that is why I'm just a gravedigger!

 

My brain tells me TVOR.

 

My head hurts

 

I personally wish the seer viewed Darave so we can put to bed once and for all whose message was whose yesterday. Darave used the tactic of naming himself (twice I believe) to very good effect last time. I still think it a reckless move but until or unless he is viewed or lynched there is no way to know.

 

I wouldn't use previous games as guide when making decisions. This was pretty much TVOR's whole reason for targeting Cude in the last game and essentially why good lost.

Stick to the facts and your own opinions. Don't listen to those are trying to sway you when you're speaking perfect sense, remember there are a team of evil players who are out to deceive you.

 

Have you ? sorry i've only skipped through as and when i have had time to

Not sure why i'm a suspect, because i pointed the finger at Diamond yesterday ?

You have two clear options today and possibly a traitor but this time not in rhyme

 

right off out for 4 hours

back in time to vote

 

Good points all around. But as your friendly local lawyer I'd like family to know in case of a unfortunate lynching I am the man do call. I don't get any money until you get money. Cal 555-555-5555

 

Hi all, just been catching up on everything so far. My initial thought just from reading the messages was that the first was from the seer and the second the wolf, and it seems most of you agree with that. Thus at the moment I am most suspicious of vor and darave, but more so vor as darave seems to be a name thrown about by the wolf to cause confusion

 

I am inclined to agree with this reasoning.

 

1. Otter called you out on something you backtracked on in day 1
2. With no real reason you instantly fired everyone in the direction of Diamond trying to protect Cude >2<
3. You are misdirecting again today trying to get us to waste votes on Darave8
Edit: 4. And now you disappear for 4 hours so won't have to defend yourself!

Yes we have 3 options, and I'll not waste my vote on you this eve, as I'll save it to help the masses make a bigger decision.

But I've got my eye on you Smiler!

 

Could very well be the case and if so we have a very clever wolf amongst the pack. However if we start going off on a tangent and voting for people based on suspicions we can end up in trouble, like we almost did yesterday.

 

This is true. However a healthy debate and tangent creates more conversation more evidence if you will of people defending or attacking. If we just blindly go in one direction we learn nothing from the process.

 

We don't, but it's day 2 and we're already 1 evil player down, so we have plenty of time to work on it. Unfortunately we must lynch someone tonight, and we can only go with the obvious choices:

This would be my list...

Darave has been mentioned
VoR has been mentioned
Squibba voted strangely
Abso voted strangely

You may all well be good, and if so I apologise, but I see no choice from what we have but to go for one of those 4 this evening.

 

WT and Squibba have voted for TVOR.

Whilst I'm tempted to follow them for the reasons which I've already stated, I'd love to know why they are voting for him too. Not one post from either of them.

 

Sorry Squibba I have read back and seen your posts.

 

I'm ploughing through all this as I went away for a couple of hours and just like yesterday I have come back to apparently be public enemy no1 again; just popped in to say that good won the last game, and if you are going to lynch me or darave, at least make it in order which means he should go 1st, then by all means lynch me the next day.

Going back to my catching up, I'll be back soon with my thoughts, so don't vote yet!

 

It's been mentioned before, but from what we have we can almost guarantee that the second message on the first day was the Seer.

Both messages today claimed they viewed Cude yesterday, and the Seer isn't going to lie = Cude was viewed by the seer. Now that we know that, we can build on it.

The first message today is similar in style to the Seers message yesterday. The second message today is similar in style to the wolf's message yesterday. I don't see why the Seer would deviate from their style, it's in their interest to make it as clear as possible to us which message is them. That leads us to the first message today being the Wolf. I'm happy to progress and vote on that logic until it is proven untrue.

So...Miked is good. TVOR is either a risky wolf or an unwittingly target. Darave is the same.

There must be something in what Otter said. If one wolf had got him, I'd simply put it down to that wolf playing a game to set up TVOR. But for two wolves without contact to go for him? Strange.

 

Excuse me for being stupid but why wouldn't the Seer check TVOR as requested?

 

Because there was absolutely nothing to go on apart from a previous game, whereas Mike was throwing all sorts of balls in the air yesterday. It was a clever viewing IMO.

 

Thought that post might entice you out. Are you already going for the typical wolf tactic of trying to buy an extra day by saying "lynch me tomorrow"?