Werewolf XVI: Day 2

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  1. 352

    352 Moderator

    First message sent at 11:01am:

    Second message sent at 11:35am:


    It was late. WatfordTalk was writing up a piece for his Vital Werewolf publication. He'd been drinking, but hadn't had too much after a successful day - he needed to write this up. It was a profile and interview with the successful football manager, Otter.

    One word, if but one were chosen, describes him: intense. One aim, if but one were chosen, explains him: to win. An air of monasticism as well as industry pervades.

    Otter talks to me about his philosophy.

    ‘You have to put a priority on everything you do each day. If you don’t, you won’t finish it. If you enjoy your job, it isn’t work. It’s fun. If you detest going to work, then you’re looking for ways to beat the clock. I’d rather go to Cassiobury Park and do my thing, so to speak, than I would play golf. Golf is a fine sport, but it’s too time-consuming. I don’t have that time schedule.’

    Then he talks to me about his mentality.

    ‘Everything we do is based on winning. I don’t care how hard you work or how well organised you are, if you don’t win, what good is it? It’s down the drain. You can have a tremendous game plan, but if you lose the game, what good was the plan?’

    Why does he love to win so much?

    ‘One of the greatest things is to be in a changing room after a win. And be with the players and coaches and realise what’s been accomplished, what you’ve gone through. The rewards are not necessarily tangible. It’s the hard work and the agony and the blood and sweat and tears. When you lose, it’s a morgue.’

    WatfordTalk decided that was enough for the night and turned off his desk lamp and put away his things. It was cold.

    Outside, simms was walking past Talk’s window, merrily slapping the air in front of him. “Who-toosh! Shah-boosh!” He was reliving the slaps he dealt out to the lifeless face of Cude. In a celebratory mood after a successful lynch, simms had had a fair few jars in the Tavern last night and could barely see a yard in front of him.

    Still, he managed to get himself home.

    If only he’d’ve been a little more inebriated though. Camped out by his front door was the unmistakable silhouette of a werewolf. One colossal slap was all that was needed, and simms’s head was swept clean off his shoulders as his front door key was turned.

    simms was GOOD. simms was dead.

    Back at the Tavern, Otter was fast asleep on the bar. He had been discussing set plays with the landlord, Jellyman. Jellyman had kept the bar open all night following the success of Day 1. It was almost dawn now, and Otter was the last man in the bar – Jellyman was upstairs asleep, and everyone else was stumbling home or tucked up in bed.

    Otter was welcome to stay the night, he had done this many a time after a game of football was won. After a loss, Otter was inconsolable and would trudge straight home, but after a win, he would pore over every victorious detail and fine-tune the next game’s tactics with the drunken merrymakers in the Tavern, often falling asleep against or even on the bar after one too many pints of porter.

    In Jellyman’s drunken stupor, he had left for bed without locking up, and two beastly figures were darting up the road towards the Tavern. On their way, they caught a glimpse of each other and stopped for a moment.

    One grunted, the other nodded, and with that they charged through the door, left ajar by the sozzled landlord, towards Otter.

    Otter was snoring. The wolves looked at one another once again as they carefully moved the bar stools out of their way, and this time they both nodded.

    One wolf grasped Otter’s nose, the other held his mouth shut tight. As Otter awoke, panicked and unable to breathe, the wolves began to shake gently as they chuckled. There wasn’t much sound, Otter couldn’t find anything to grab onto in his struggle to stay alive. Jellyman had cleared the place before bed, and the bar was spotless.

    Otter tussled and turned and grabbed at air, and then he was still. His eyes protruded from their sockets – they looked bloated with terror. The wolves dropped him, and ripped off a leg each. It was a ghastly sight.

    As the wolves walked back out through the Tavern front door, they flung Otter’s legs onto the football pitch on the village green. Two pieces of leg meat, barely recognisable as human, strewn across the technical area in front of the Home dugout. With A Smile would be devastated – a muddy grass verge from the L*t*n team bus and now a clean up operation needed at pitchside. There would be much paperwork to be filled out.

    Otter was GOOD. Otter was in pieces.

    Elsewhere, the Guardian sat hiding in the bushes outside darave8’s house. He got very cold, regretted the decision to stay there all night, and sloped off home as the sun rose.

    The Cassiobury Chronicle front page looked a little bit like this:



    Are the Wolves back? – Slavisa Jokanovic nowhere to be seen, but sources close to the Serbian have told the Chronicle that he has simply returned to Madrid to see his family. Photograph of dead Jokanovic seems to suggest otherwise. More to follow…

    Villagers have been urged to remain calm by the Mayor, 352. 'We simply do not know if the wolves are back. I think some people have a tendency to get a little over-dramatic to be honest. It could be anything.'
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  2. 352

    352 Moderator


    Otter - GOOD – Killed Night 1
    Cude>2< - EVIL – Lynched Day 1
    Harrow Orn
    simms - GOOD – Killed Night 1
    The Voice of Reason
    nairobi hornet
    Cassetti’s Beard
    With A Smile
    fox in the box – Final warning for inactivity…
    Daft Row
    Oxhey Hornet
    steve harrow

    Players remaining: 28

    Voting closes at 8pm once again.

    Remember to vote or risk death.
  3. 352

    352 Moderator

    I will be at work today until 2pm, but will have intermittent access to the forum from work.

    I'll be able to post up the anonymous messages, but they may come a little after they are sent. I will time stamp the messages from when I receive them so you all have as much info as possible.
  4. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    Morning 352 morning villagers a big shame we have lost Sims , and now two of the wolves know each other Team good needs to split this pairing asap. Right, time to count the sheep and make sure they are all there !
  5. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Cemetery keys please? For some reason I can't PM as I would have asked from there.

    MOD EDIT: I have requested the keys for you. You'll have to sit tight.
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  6. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    Feck me I could have sworn I saw Otter or otters ghost ! spooky :confused:
  7. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Having got it so spectacularly wrong yesterday I am doubly confused by the messages. If the seer really did view Cude as evil then the wolf must have proclaimed Darave as good (works if it was Darave himself making the claim). The only other scenario is that a wolf unwittingly named another wolf.

    It is hard to see beyond the seer looking at Darave for now. If that is in fact Darave's tactic it is surely suicide. Interesting that the Guardian chose Darave to protect. Unless I am missing something glaringly obvious I would think the chances Darave is evil increased exponentially based on yesterday's messages and subsequent successful lynching. He could certainly still be good (ie he was viewed by the seer in the first message and a wolf got unlucky naming cude) but he has to be viewed to clear it up once and for all.
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  8. merchandiseman41

    merchandiseman41 Reservist

    Can I have my ornimental gnome back when WAS starts repairing the pitch
  9. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Morning Guy's, I have to admit I'm quite surprised to be still around, but I've just heard that two of the guy's didn't make it last night!

    Poor old Otter, what a pity he might have made it as a pro manager one day; I will have a word with the mayor and offer the team the use of the facilities and coaching staff at Cassiobury Rangers for training etc. until a new manager can be found. And poor old simms, did he ever lose his virginity? I guess we'll never know now :dismay:
  10. 352

    352 Moderator

    Seer and Alpha Wolf, whenever you're ready. I've got my phone on me at the till today especially. :sign13:
  11. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    A wolf's message can just be to create confusion. Naming a random person as good can do that. Remember, the wolf wouldn't know whether other players were good or evil. It could be that darave named himself and got lucky by the seer viewing Cude. Or it could be that the seer genuinely viewed and cleared darave, and the wolf got unlucky by naming one of his colleagues.

    Let's wait for the messages today, children, and act accordingly. Yesterday's frenetic talk of odds and backgammon nearly took us up the garden path.
  12. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    I think Darave is good if Darave was a wolf why call attention to himself ? unless of course as Moog says a wolf called another wolf , however at this stage that is odds against , so I think Darave is good , again as Moog says we need to act on the messages
    during early stages of the game before going of on weird tangents .
  13. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    morning all, im happy to interview for the managers job, I bring the experience of playing for 20 years and still am so ideally would be a player manager role.
  14. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    agreed going with the messages worked yesterday so lets use them again today if we can
  15. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Yeah I think I'll just stick to acting on messages now. I went on a hunch yesterday and was ultimately wrong by voting TVOR.
  16. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I'll be in the office from 9-6 today so depending on how busy I am I might not be too active.
  17. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I've been looking back at yesterday, and it looks like Otter got done because he was pretty innocuous, so seemed very likely to be good, so he was probably easy prey for the wolf, or maybe the wolf is a scummer fan ;)

    However, it was a totally different story for simmo, he was a big threat to the wolves because he was so analytical and gave so much good advice to us lesser players.

    Look back at day 1 and let's heed his advice so that he did not die in vain; here are some of his posts: - #82; #115; #118; #142; #161; #167; #172; #179; #194; #231 (puts suspicion on Miked2006)

    And in general you will find that Miked2006 & Philipinehorn are two of his main detractors, but lets be careful not to forget the strong possibility that Darave is probably evil also.

    PS Got to go off line for a while, and I don't want to be accused of not being active enough ;)
  18. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    Possibility isn't actually that strong. On balance he's probably more likely to be good.

    I'll be quiet today, owing to having one of my last LPC exams tomorrow morning. I'll keep up as much as possible and attempt to contribute.
  19. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Can you stop referring to yourself as a lesser player please. You are one of the most experienced players here!

    Agree on Simms though, he was throwing around some accusations yesterday, possibly one of them was the wolf and saw him as a threat. Who knows?
  20. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I'll put my hands up and say I totally ballsed up yesterday.

    Either Darave did vote for himself first, or, most likely, the wolf just went for the wrong guy. If Darave is guilty then you might as well let me know so I can commit suicide in this game, as in my eyes it goes against all logic.

    I still maintain that all of the (experienced wolves) would have gone for Cude yesterday. Nobody wants suspicion on them, and they would have wanted to blend in with the crowd and vote late when they knew which direction it was going. So they are the ones, especially the late quiet ones, who I've got my eye on.

    But unlike yesterday, maybe I'll just go with the messages today :doh:
  21. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Morning, I will be a lot more active today!

    Important to wait for the messages but at the same time lets not forget those who were so opposed to us voting for the logical choice, Cude.

    Remember we have a traitor somewhere.
  22. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Would people really kill somebody they were vociferously arguing against? Would put a lot of suspicion on them.

    Simms was killed for 'protesting too much' that Cude was guilty. Wolfy thought he might take out the witness.
  23. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Morning all. I forgot how nice it is to come into the game and find out you're still alive.

    Right, yesterday is gone, lesson learned is act on facts. Like the rest of you, those messages still confuse me a bit, and I also wonder if the wolf hit one of his own randomly? Don't get why the Guardian protected Darave when he is going to be under suspicion after yesterdays messages. Darave, I happen to think you're innocent but we need to clear it up in case you've pulled an outrageous stunt.

    Today my focus would be on Darave and those who made such weird votes yesterday, and I'm not talking the votes for TVoR as those mob mentality votes just happen sometimes. Squibba's was most odd, as was Asbo's.

    And why did 2 wolves pick on Otter? What did he say to attract them both?
  24. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

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  25. 352

    352 Moderator

    A note to the dead watching on...

    Cude, PowerJugs, Otter & simms, you should all have access to the cemetery now. PM me if you don't. Thanks.
  26. Abso

    Abso First Year Pro

    How do you know what the wolf was thinking?
  27. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Was Cude the traitor or the wolf?
  28. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    My head hurts understanding this, think I'll have to read through yesterday... Perhaps see a reason as to why Simms and Otter were killed off.
  29. darave8

    darave8 Forum lucky person

    Morning all.

    I'm grateful but very surprised that the guardian saved me last night. No wolf would kill me whilst there is a chance of me being lynched.

    I would advise that people stick to the facts and stop referring to previous games when they make decisions, as I believe this is the main reason I've come under scrutiny.

    One thing I would like you to all think about; IF I was the wolf and had sent the first message, why would I vote off Cude? I would have known for sure he was evil and with such a tight vote I could of easily helped to sway it the way of TVOR.
  30. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    very good question was wondering the same thing
  31. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    That's not true - wolves don't know each other's identity at the start of the game.
  32. Abso

    Abso First Year Pro

    On a complete tangent i have noticed that merchandiseman41's shop is selling sheeps clothing at bargain basement prices today. Anyone interested? :p
  33. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Interesting night! Delighted Cude turned out to be evil. Whether that was by the seer or a mistaken wolf, we don't know yet.

    Let's hope the messages are as compelling today as they were yesterday.

    I have to attend an event from 4:30pm today and can't be sure I'll be around after that. Therefore, it's possible I'll have to vote by then.
  34. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Unless three wolves went for Otter, then he was probably a wolf.
  35. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Very good point PH! Caught in a lie Darave, have you sealed your fate? Whoops hold on a minute that might not be a lie, as he would have known that the 2nd message was from the seer, but that would still make him a wolf!!! Plus wolves have been known to sacrifice other wolves to save themselves.
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