Summer wish-list.

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by wfcSinatra, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. Mitchyman7398

    Mitchyman7398 Academy Graduate

    i cant imagine Ayling would cost to much
     
  2. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Ayling is yet to sign a deal. The quote from Gary Johnson is: "Luke Ayling is under 24 so whoever takes him will have to pay compensation so I still see him in my head as still being with us unless a deal is done, which is good." so he could still come here, if we were willing to pay the compensation.

    Stech is out of contract and GJ expects him to leave.

    Same with Byron Webster. 27 year old, 6ft 4in centre half. Don't know too much about him but could be worth a punt? Ipswich and Leeds were reportedly after him.
     
  3. Mitchyman7398

    Mitchyman7398 Academy Graduate

    I'd go in for Stech and Ayling also i saw Carlos Cuellar is available on a free anyone take him?
     
  4. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    Yeovil went down but you want three of their back five?
     
  5. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Could you point out where I said that?
     
  6. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    Well, you're talking about three of their back 5 - given that this is a Watford forum and you were replying to a post saying Ayling would be an ideal signing, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that was what you were implying. Obviously I was wrong, and I sincerely apologise.

    Is it just me who's noticed that this forum has become more and more hostile recently?
     
  7. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Was just responding to Smudger, who said Ayling had signed a contract. And I was just musing about the other players out of contract in the summer.

    My reply wasn't meant to be hostile, sorry.
     
  8. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Rio Ferdinand leaving ManUre. Clearly the Pozzos turned his head.
     
  9. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Oh **** off mate what are you talking about?
     
  10. zpms6

    zpms6 Reservist

    Increase speculation on Stech a few notches
     
  11. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    That's a mistake from them if they haven't tied him down. He has plenty of upside so to speak. We should go in for him. Angella-Hoban-Ayling sounds good to me. All three being decent on the ball as well to initiate attacks from the back.
     
  12. zpms6

    zpms6 Reservist

    Apologies for not adding to the current trend of adding a new thread for a suggestion, but what about giving Michael Mancienne a chance to kick start his career?
     
  13. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Michael Mancienne? Playing for Hamburg? In the Bundesliga? Does he need Watford to kick start his career?
     
  14. zpms6

    zpms6 Reservist

    That's the one
    Yes hamburg, the team that may get relegated
    Yes the bundesliga
    40 appearances since 2011 hardly suggest he is setting the world alight there
    ;)
     
  15. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Still on a lot of money and sounds like he's enjoying it from interviews.
     
  16. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    I'm not surprised , have you been to the reeperbahn?
     
  17. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    I know we have just signed Dyer but Scott Sinclair must be a decent option

    Not cutting it at City, sent to WBA on loan and hasn't made the 1st team, the lad needs somewhere new to kick start his career.

    Another option from City AS A LOAN OPTION would be Jack Rodwell. A hell of a player who desperately needs game time and to regain his confidence.

    .
     
  18. J dog

    J dog First Year Pro

    Your taking the mick right?
     
  19. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Sinclair could drop down to the Championship considering he couldn't even get a game at a relegation fighting team but think Rodwell will happily find himself at a Premier League side.
     
  20. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Wish I could dislike this twice.

    WBA have been paying Sinclair 30k a week and he's done **** all. Overall he's cost them over £3m and he's made 8 league apps. Over £10,000 for every minute spent on the pitch.

    No goals and no assists and has been subbed in every game he's started for a team that have been pretty awful this season.

    No, no a thousand times no.



    Rodwell is on 40k a week and would almost certainly go to a PL club.
     
  21. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    and that's what Gregg **** should be looking at rather than B sides. Too many young players rotting at big clubs happy to pick up absurdly high wages for doing bugger all.
     
  22. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    How on earth do people know what players earn ? it's all guess work and in all honesty makes them look a little silly. Wasn't it rumoured that Almunia was on £30k plus as Arsenal and Hall the same at QPR before they came here ?

    Sinclair was brilliant at Swansea and has clearly lost his way. If you are looking at players that fit the Pozzo model then he would fall right in. Rodwell just needs some game time and given an opportunity and that's why I said as a loan option.

    I'm amazed just how ****ty some people get just because someone has a different view than theirs.
     
  23. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    By '****ty', do you mean having a different view to you?
     
  24. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    The fact that you've already apologised in thread once about your reply being hostile, yet you continue the same style in each and every post.

    I would love to know where you pluck these figures from about players earnings
     
  25. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

  26. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Do you honestly believe that reporters genuinely know how much players earn ? He has covered him self by saying "in my reckoning" very early on in his report. In other words he like everyone else is guessing.

    I really wouldn't believe anything you read in the paper or trawl on the internet.
     
  27. Prentice

    Prentice Administrator

    By the way, it's all very well pointing out that Almunia and Hall earned £30K or whatever before they joined us, they're at the end of their careers.

    Sinclair is on a lot more than £30K, (WBA are only paying £30K of his wage) too. Google lists his 2013 salary as boiling down to c. £40K a week, media report it as around £40-£45K.
     
  28. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

  29. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    So media reports are true ?

    The bloke was fantastic at Swansea, being talked about as an England international, decided to follow the money and its all gone wrong.

    He needs to be playing football and thats not going to happen at City and possibly not going to happen in the premiership. So the natural next step down is the championship, where he isn't going to earn his alleged £30, 40, 45k a week.

    As an option as a player that would be available and could be very good in this league, then he is a realistic person to put on a forum hypothetical wish list
     
  30. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Do the loan club pay stuff like appearance bonuses? I thought about that but surely he wouldn't make such a basic error like that?
     
  31. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Do you really believe he's on anything less than 30-40k a week?
     
  32. Prentice

    Prentice Administrator

    You're quite right, my personal opinion though is there's probably a step in-between where he is now, and us in terms of his regression before he can move forward again.

    Unfortunately that probably won't come until he's out of contract at Man City because no one else will pay a high % or any of what he's on.
     
  33. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    You've almost answered your own questions in another post

    A lot of players receive a set salary and then
    Appearance money
    On the bench/Squad and not getting on the pitch
    Win bonus
    Goal bonus
    Points bonus
    Loyalty bonuses

    I think it was "The Secret Footballer" who wrote a very good article about players salaries and how they are heaped with bonuses rather than set salaries. He talked about how far off the media were in their reporting. If Manchester City accept an offer for Sinclaire or make him available for transfer then they are responsible for settling his current contract, or balancing his salary for the remaining period. If you remember this is exactly what happened with Robbie Fowler when he left Leeds, Robbie Keane when he left Liverpool to go back to Spurs and god knows how many Portsmouth players

    99% of what you read about players salaries is pure guess work
     
  34. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    They paid a £2m loan fee. So the figures are right I think
     
  35. Mitchyman7398

    Mitchyman7398 Academy Graduate

    We don't even need someone like Scott Sinclair. I think we'll go 4-3-3 and we would have Anya and Dyer for the LW role. Say the reports about Misidjan are true i think we'll have him and tommy smith for RW. Then all i think we need is a new keeper hopefully Kuszczak, a dominant center half also a right back and obviously Tozser on a permanent deal
     

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