Roy Hodgson - Manager

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by hornetboy1, Jan 24, 2022.

  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I'm wondering how significant Hodgson's title of "manager" is. Is it cosmetic, because Hodgson prefers to be called that, or is there something more behind it.

    The fact he's only signed a 6 month deal, doesn't suggest to me that it really makes too much difference. A manager is involved in staff appointments and has a direct input in transfers. With only 5 days left in this window, I doubt he'd have any influence on that and apart from Lewington, it seems the rest of the coaching staff remains in place after Ranieri's departure.

    A lot of a manager's duties would be in direct conflict with Cristiano Giaretta's role. But it does seem to be a pointed distinction in the club's announcement. The word "manager" is used throughout and "head coach" is not used once.
     
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  2. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Is misleading as it counts Ivic and Mullins. Technically it’s true, but obviously you can’t keep a clean sheet in the PL when you’re in another league.

    You could run the stat for a club like Blackburn and it would obviously be significantly worse.
     
  3. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Hodgson demands we sign Kalu.

    'The final piece of my jigsaw.'

    Lessons being learned.
     
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  4. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I guess Pearson still "managed us" after the clean sheet so he still counts as a manager since our last clean sheet. As you say Ivic is a red herring and not sure it's fair to include a caretaker manager either...
     
  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    No manager tells our board who to sign. Not sure he will last until his first match.
     
  6. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Always baffles me how we seem to have fans who get more angry at a Gary Lineker tweet than how Gino runs the club.
     
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  7. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  8. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    They had that comedian Kevin something on Talk Sport yesterday afternoon describing what we can expect from Hodgson.

    Two concerning things which we probably knew already, but anyway:

    1: He said expect to have about 25% possession. He’s going to have to do some serious coaching on our defenders because we all know up until now, whenever we’ve tried to sit back and sustain pressure it’s been a disaster.

    2: He said if you’re losing 1-0 don’t expect him to go for it, he’s in fact more likely to bring a defender on and protect the goal difference.

    Now that second point might change given our circumstances and need for wins, but for him to succeed it seems everything is going to hinge around suddenly being able to keep the odd clean sheet here and there.
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Not in the least bit surprising as they were his team.

    That said, for the next 6 months, this reduction in numbers is no bad thing. Have often been told there’s a lot of coaches milling around the pitches at LC - too many cooks maybe?

    We now don’t even have a First-Team
    coach. And most Head Coaches/Managers tend to have a few assistants these days too.

    Given how much of a mess we are in, the players need clear, direct messaging from as few different sources as possible. I don’t think it’s a bad thing we are just going with a Manager, his assistant and a GK coach. Gives the players a clear voice to hear from and take instruction from.

    I still reserve the right to criticise the owner, the transfer window dealings and the general way the club is being run. But I have come round a bit to the idea of Hodgson and Lewington and will give them my support. I just hope beyond hope that they are here to lay a solid foundation for a younger, progressive Martinez-type in the summer.
     
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  10. HeiaWatford

    HeiaWatford Reservist

    Honestly if Roy and Ray can turn our defence and midfield into a machine that works for each other I will be amazed. But I'm forever hopeful. It's not going to be pretty but I will take this for some committed performances and points.
     
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  11. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  12. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    That's fine, we're absolute sh!t with the ball anyway.
     
  13. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    This looks spot on. It won't be pretty, that's for sure.
     
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  14. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    But we will have to win games - hoping for a 0-0 or nick a 1-0 probably won't work and keep us up.

    Sarr will be key if fit - we'll probably try to use his pace on the counter attack.
     
  15. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    If Ken Sema becomes a main stay in the first 11 under R&R we could have some serious early problems. King also needs to find his shooting boots again. If he got into those two excellent positions that Sossoko got into, I would back him to score 9 times out of 10.
     
  16. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    If Roy can coach these bunch of idiots to defend then for me he is the best coach in the World.
     
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  17. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I don’t think it will be. I still expect Sarr and Dennis to feature. But Hodgson will certainly be asking them to defend far more and he won’t be shy from dropping them if they don’t.

    But Hodgson often got the best out of Zaha so I doubt he’s afraid of maverick attackers either.
     
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  18. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I doubt Sema will be here at the end of the window, I shouldn’t worry.
     
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  19. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

  20. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I've been told they are planning to paint him on the subway mural.
     
  21. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Heard this mentioned a couple of times? Where is this ****** thing?
     
  22. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I see the club have put up the sign for Hodgson's car park space

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  23. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    Only an idiot would drop Dennis we are **** but he is the 4th top goal scorer in the league and is within the top 10 in the league for assists as well.
     
  24. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The club painted the image of the shop front of a Subway branch on a wall opposite the training ground entrance in an effort to lure Danny Rose out.
     
  25. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Well I agree - if he's performing. But if he is going out and performing for himself and not the team, as has been loudly suggested by fans and some seemingly within the club, then he won't last long under Hodgson. What he's done before will be irrelevant pretty quickly.
     
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  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

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    Give me strength.
     
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  27. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

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  28. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    ????

    Isn't he one of the WD18 lads?
     
  29. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    You're my Jane Plough. When am I gonna get on Sky News to spout my bile?
     
  30. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I thought you did that on the BWO Podcast with GD and Nath? :D
     
  31. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    He was rubbish in the last Euros he played in 1992; not sure he was fully fit as he only managed 18 games over 2 seasons for his final club in Japan.
     
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  32. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    This was purely a prediction for the Burnley game by the way.
     
  33. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    There is serious under representation for us BWs in the media.
     
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  34. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Christ alive, this is all we need. He probably won't be able to help himself into breaking out into a full rendition of 'That would be enough' from Hamilton whilst he's got the platform, to boot.

    (That is a joke for people with extremely specific knowledge of the lyrics of songs from 'Hamilton' and Sam Ucko's Twitter feed/my postings of it here)
     
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  35. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    There's absolutely no way Dennis and Sarr aren't in our first XI unless they're injured or sold. Hodgson isn't so defensive that he's going to remove basically our only goal threats and our two best players from the team in favour of the likes of Sema, who has clearly proven that he's nowhere near good enough for this division.

    Think people are going overboard in their assumptions about Hodgson's style.
     

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