Watford Observer v WD Sport

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by 352, Sep 15, 2015.

  1. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    Will there be a colour supplement on Sundays? And pull-out Financial, The Arts & What's On sections? If so I'm in.
     
  2. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Catchy!
     
  3. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    He'd have to resign from the Star first!
     
  4. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    There's now a Parliament section of this forum, I see no reason why we shouldn't do the same for the Daily WFChissyfitgoingdown Sport.
     
  5. Fixed
     
  6. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Not really. You missed an apostrophe.
     
  7. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    That's nuts. Surely Superman would just crush him? No contest.
     
  8. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Lex Luther irradiated Spider-Man with the power of the red Sun, allowing his punches to hurt superman. Once that wore off, Spider-Man was ineffectual and they both realised they'd been tricked into fighting one another.
     
  9. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Anyone else think they're obsessed with Sheffield Wednesday? More precisely with FF...
     
  10. Douglas Rinaldi

    Douglas Rinaldi Reservist

    From WD Sport:

    Manchester City have spent £134.7m on centre-halves since August 2008. Cathcart, Britos and Pr*dl didn't cost a penny



    What? So? Are we in the Champions League? No.

    The smugness of some of the posts on this site make me feel ill.
     
  11. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I think you've found the tag line they should use.

    WD Sport - So?
     
  12. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Or WD Sport - No one likes a clever clogs.
     
  13. Layton

    Layton First Team

    None of our team , would get in theirs , so what's their point ?
     
  14. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    I like their weekly reminders that Jadon Sancho used to be in our academy.
     
  15. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    The article 'Odion Ighalo pulled the wool over the eyes of Sebastien Bassong' has the following sub-heading:

    I'm patiently waiting for the day that they refer to Deeney and Capoue as 'fellow Europeans' or Britos and Paredes as 'fellow South Americans'! Their example is different, of course, because Africa is all one big country.
     
  16. 352

    352 Moderator

    Increasingly, the stories coming from the WO and WD Sport are near enough identical. For example:

    Watford defender Craig Cathcart says he knows from his experience at Blackpool that Premier League safety can never be taken for granted

    and

    Cathcart to relay lessons learned from chicken counting at Blackpool

    Posted within 5 minutes of each other I think.

    It's a shame that they can't just work together somehow. It's a waste of time sometimes having them both, and though there are often discernible differences, for a large part they are annoyingly (and predictably, given the subject matter) similar.
     
  17. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Trouble is they both go to the same media days, press conferences and the like and presumably the club doesn't favour one over the other when it comes to fixing interviews or setting embargoes. So instead it just ends up with this silly duplication.

    I'm impressed WD Sport is still going however.
     
  18. 352

    352 Moderator

    Exactly.
     
  19. Why on earth would WObserver & WD work together? They're rival organisations, and one was set up by a former Wobserver staff member
     
  20. 352

    352 Moderator

    Of course they won't. That's not my point at all. I'm saying it's a waste of time having them both sometimes, and it's a shame that we can't have all of their energies focused on just one publication. Then we wouldn't have duplicate stories and so on.
     
  21. Douglas Rinaldi

    Douglas Rinaldi Reservist

    "Manchester City have spent a staggering £134.7m on centre-halves since August 2008 yet are still over reliant on Vincent Kompany. Craig Cathcart, Miguel Britos and Sebastian Pr*dl, the other hand, haven’t cost Watford a single penny which just goes to show money isn’t everything and spending a fortune doesn’t guarantee you anything."

    It doesn't guarantee anything. It'll get you 2 Premier League titles, 2 domestic trophies, 5 Champions League qualifications, a bigger global brand, a larger fanbase, more ticket sales. But sure, it doesn't guarantee anything.

    Good work WD Sport.
     
  22. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    WD Sport are just showing a bit of genuine fan's passion for the club. There's nothing wrong with that. I like to see it & enjoy their website. The point they are making is, yes City's defence is probably better than ours, but maybe not £134.7m better. And without Kompany, it actually looks worse.

    It's a fair point.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2015
  23. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Affleck is such an arse in every conceivable manner.

    He's also a UKIP supporter.
     
  24. Douglas Rinaldi

    Douglas Rinaldi Reservist

    Not really - it's just propaganda that creates unnecessary delusion of grandeur amongst impressionable fans (most of whom operate on Twitter). It doesn't take into account the achievements or aspirations of either team. In other words, it's just uncircumstantial nonsense.

    Most of us can see we're a good team, and we have media sources praising us left, right and centre.

    Attempting to compare us to a perennial title-challenger is just clickbait. Which is journalism at its very worst if you ask me.
     
  25. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    His writing style reminds me of a children's school project when they are asked to write in the style of newspaper journalism.
     
  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  27. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Oh god, next month there will be endless [GOSSIP] articles from the Observer. Mainly with rumours that are a few days old.
     
  28. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Oh god, next month there will be endless [RUMOUR] threads from idiots on here that currently run at a 15/0 success rate. Mainly with rumours that are bull**** and copied and pasted from Twitter.
     
  29. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    I don't blame The WO for trying to ape (surprisingly successful) internet bog sites with stuff like that. Like most of the old-school printed press they are hanging on by their fingernails these days.
     
  30. coldbrain

    coldbrain Academy Graduate

    They could:


    • Publish more opinion pieces from their writers
    • Do more post-match round-ups (e.g. player ratings, what we learned from match x)
    • Stop splitting up longer pieces (mostly pre-season interviews, I admit) in a user-hostile way, purely for advertising £££
    • Embed more multimedia content from other sources
    • Stop dragging out content for multiple days, e.g. reactions to Saturday's game until Wednesday or Thursday
    • Interview the U21s
    • Interview the U18s
    • Interview past players
    • interview the opposition
    • Do reciprocal interviews with opposition journalists
    • Posit who might break through next season and the one after
    • Go with the zeitgeist: if people are stupid enough to think Jurado has no place in our squad, offer a statistical rebuttal or suggest an alternative
    • Offer polls and other quick and easy ways for supporters to interact
    • Capture more of their own A/V—if reporters have an iPhone, they have all they need to record an audio or video interview with a journalist/player/supporter and (a) post it to social media and (b) build a story around it on their site

    The list above is completely off the top of my head—there will be loads more stuff, most of it more doable than this. Some of the stuff above, WD Sport do (not particularly well, I might say). Some of it the WO don't do due to the disastrous CMS they have to use. Or they struggle with reduced resources. Some of it they can only do if they are granted the right access. But it's all achievable in one way or another.

    They have to be more reactive and journalistic. I work on a news website and after months I am only just convincing people that the news is there for them to capture if they want to, and it's easier than ever to publish an interesting story.

    Its sad, but the WO has no voice any more.
     
  31. coldbrain

    coldbrain Academy Graduate

    I could add: the comments section on the WO site is an unmitigated disaster. They could improve this by their writers actually taking part in the discussion and doing some actual community management.
     
  32. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    One advantage the WO does have is a huge archive (I assume). A daily "40 Years Ago Today" piece would, in the coming decades, chart the fascinating recent history of our club through both memorable and turbulent times.
     
  33. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    You'd think they could have a portal to a section on a well run Watford Community forum or something. Punters driven to the forum and the admin handled for free.
    Can't think of anywhere though.
     
  34. Jimmy2shoes

    Jimmy2shoes First Year Pro

    They will both be missed if they are gone.
     
  35. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    How about a politics section? ;)
     

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