Watford FC 1-0 Everton - 09/02/2019

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Smudger, Feb 3, 2019.


What will the score be ?

Poll closed Feb 8, 2019.
  1. Watford by three goals or more

    16 vote(s)
  2. Watford by two goals

    13 vote(s)
  3. Watford by one goal

    29 vote(s)
  4. Score draw

    18 vote(s)
  5. No Score Draw

    4 vote(s)
  6. Everton by one goal

    9 vote(s)
  7. Everton by two goals

    3 vote(s)
  8. Everton by three goals or more

    1 vote(s)
  1. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member


    After the exhilaration of watching some of the best attacking football played at Vicarage Road and on the road earlier in the season the last two weeks have seen a return to the rather plodding performances that characterized the painful end to last season where the team looked to have booked their holidays well in advance of the summer break.

    Part of this is down to the lack of the midfield dynamism of Abdoulaye Doucoure despite what for him has been a season that has been underwhelming compared to last.

    But if one looks deeper then the last two games have had the same glaring issues apparent throughout the season even in the opening stages where we roared out of the blocks with four straight wins.

    Issue one is the lack of control in midfield. The last two matches have seen the midfield duo of Capoue and Cleverley who is still off the pace overwhelmed and unable to provide any quality service upfront. Both have been forced very deep isolating Deeney and Deulofeu. In doing so the team has resorted to the long ball downfield which with the exception of those two has been sat so deep that it is unable to pick up any secondary balls resulting in continual pressure on the defence. Not to mention being able to create any semblance of a decent counter attack when the opportunity presents itself. The team as a whole has fluffed their lines several times in recent games with mind boggling decisions when they have been on the break, Deulofeu running into a blind alley, Doucoure shooting and managing to screw up a three on one to cap it all.

    It is a far cry from when the team was pressing high as a unit forcing errors and controlling possession. Sema and Hughes and indeed Pereyra have been unable to get into the areas along with the fullbacks to provide local numerical superiority overloading the opposition and providing options for the ball carrier. Things which we did to great effect in the seasons two best performances against Wolverhampton Wanderers and Cardiff.

    There is also a lack of movement off the ball and slowness of decision making which is caused by not having options in front and around because the team has sat so deep. It also prevents players like Cleverley and Capoue from getting into danger areas around the box, crosses which come from angles that make it easier to defend (indeed Sema provided the only cross to come anywhere near from the byeline yesterday).

    And when there are crosses into the box you will be lucky to see more than two Watford players in the area making it easier to defend and win the ball.

    Gracia needs to make the changes that allow the midfield to control the ball and ask the team to push up the pitch and be brave enough to play two upfront. Two genuine strikers not Deulofeu. The only time we looked remotely threatening yesterday was when Deeney had someone to play off. It is extraordinarily hard for nay striker to play alone and keep the ball long enough when the rest of the team is so far away from them.

    I cannot understand why Javi does not have the flexibility to play a 4-5-1 or 3-5-2 to saturate the midfield which was our strength early in the season and allowed us to control most matches. The 3-5-2 was used well by Wolverhampton yesterday to control the midfield and overload the flanks of an Everton defence which was already and has been all at sea all season.

    We all of course would dearly love to beat the persona non grata but Javi needs to make changes in formation given the injury list and be more proactive in his decision making. The last two matches have been shambolic relying on Foster (in far better form than Pratford) and the defence to try and keep a clean sheet without offering any threat at all.

    Moving on to the opposition. They are in a terrible run of form but how often have we gifted points to such teams this season. It would be especially galling for this match. It was bad enough them getting an injury time equalizer last time around but since then their form has plummeted.

    Angry Evertonian argues with the manager:


    It looks like a team with little organization in attack and defence and one that is filled by players that lack confidence in themselves and the manager. It makes their summer spending over eighty million pounds highly questionable and no doubt why the ownership refused the persona non grata (which he will likely become at Goodison before long as well) any more funds.

    Of those three signings Digne has been the most consistent and will be a unwelcome return to their team for the match. Mina has hardly settled and the snakes son has been inconsistent not helped by the lack of quality service. He has however definitely improved as a striker with his movement and accuracy and will have a point to prove (as I hope Gerard will). It is also amazing how Walcott continually gets a game ahead of Lookman. Let's hope this is the case for Saturday.

    Another defeat for persona non grata would surely hasten his departure from these shores. Like his mentor Mourinho he is inflexible. He has played the same style of football at every team he has managed. Unable to defend using the basics and with a paper soft core in midfield. And unlike Moaninho unable to cover those deficiencies with huge spending. Yes his teams do play neat passing football at times but often with little end product.

    Fingers crossed Javi is man enough and wise enough to change formation and make sure we get an iron grip in midfield. Gomes, Davies and Sigurdsson especially the former two should scare no one. And it would be nice if Abu Dhabi United could demoralize the opposition further this coming Wednesday.

    Possible line up (injuries notwithstanding):



    Strong candidates for Player Of The Season:

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    Pillock Of The Season:


    Our record against the Toffees:

    Grand Old Team: (always a welcome read)
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2019
  2. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Liked for many reasons,not least the picture and "snake's son".
    Very fine.
    I shall be attending as the snake from 'Jungle Book',the one with the swirly eyes.
    I'm leaving now as I estimate it will take me six days to slither to WD18 from WGC.
    Someone feed the animals for me please.
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  3. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun First Year Pro

    We simply must win this game! Sack the snake! Although I've thoroughly enjoyed hating Everton...
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  4. No score draw

    Gracia praise Ken Sema's work ethic

    Richarlison falls over a lot
  5. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Reservist

    BRILLIANT write up smudge. Nice account and honesty that i think we all feel over the past two games. Love the imagary too.

    Well the big one is here. The back stabbing snake returns to the hornets nest on Saturday and he is bound to be greeted by a chorous of boos and heckles from what will most likely be a sold out Vic.

    I just hope the players are as motivated for this as the fans will be. Defeat here is going to be very hard to take so i hope we can get a repeat of last seasons fixture where we played well and a nice Deeney goal settled it,

    As for lineups id say please change the formation and start Quinna. Maybe stick with Gray Deeney as they can play together quite well. Obvs no Decoure' so Capoue, Hughes, Quinna and Delafoo. I would drop Pereyera for this one, he isnt himself at the moment.

    Defence Holebas Cathcart Kiko? and Mapps. Foster inbetween the sticks. Formation is key here, we cannot flood the midfield like Wolves did, so some balance has to be found. Get the first goal to worry them then dont sit back as we did at Spuds ansd more or less the whole game at Brighton.

    Lets skin the snake and mame his P45 closer.
  6. Nice line up

    Not a cats chance in hell of Gracia changing his 442
  7. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    You're right:
    What if we are successful? Thrash Everton, Snake gets the heave-ho and then what?
    Back to Bournemouth?
    Wittering on about Bedfordshire?
    How can we swing it so the glistering rivalry continues?
    RookeryDad likes this.
  8. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    There are always the tossers at palace
  9. Vicarage Road

    Vicarage Road Reservist

    We all dream come Saturday there will be 18000 Watford supporters angrily baying for snake’s blood. In reality what will no doubt happen is, the players will come out of the tunnel to be greeted to a couple of inflatable snakes in The rookery and a halfhearted booing lasting ten seconds. Two minutes into the game, you’ll be able to hear the usual pin drop. Let’s not kid ourselves, our home support is generally pretty crap
  10. Horace_goes_up_north

    Horace_goes_up_north First Year Pro

    Everyone's home support is generally pretty crap.
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  11. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Plus there'll be at least 1000 people applauding Silva and saying things like, "Oh look Maureen, isn't it nice to see that Oscar Garcia back in the English game after his heart scare a few years ago?"
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  12. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Maybe they've got the right approach to football.
  13. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Why shouldn't we kid ourselves? This is football.
    Anyway, we'll look to you to take the lead.
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  14. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Is Maureen being addressed by someone called Wilfred?

    Wasn’t the pilot of George & Mildred called Wilfred & Maureen?
  15. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Depends if he's still banned I guess.
  16. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    We have been lacklustre the past two games with Cleverly offering little ball carrying abilities. That being said it has not been too bad. I believe without Son we would have got at least a point from Spurs and we played against a resolute Brighton team at the Amex who had just been humiliated by Fulham the game previously. We are playing central midfielders on the wing as we have no real alternative.

    On to Everton, we know how what to expect from them. Slow build up play and zonal defending. And excuses lots and lots of mumbled excuses. The Derby looks as though it was their version of us at Stamford Bridge.

    The way to stop Everton appears to be pressing Andre Gomes at every opportunity which will cut off the midfield supply line. This isolates their forwards and puts them on the back foot. I'd stick Ken or Hughes on the right as they put a shift in defensively and will hopefully track Digne when he makes his lung busting runs. Hopefully Gueye is still sulking after not being allowed to move.

    I am sure Javi has a few set piece tricks up his sleeve which should hopefully work in our favour.

    I can see the crowd being fired up for this one which can only ever help us and hopefully get them on aide for the rest of the season.

    As you can see from the above, it's the hope that kills you.
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  17. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Digne's suspended I think- straight red at 'Uddersfield. Our game is his last suspended game - unless they've changed the rules.
  18. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Wasn't it a one game ban?
  19. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yeah. Professional foul is a 1 match ban.
  20. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    They've changed the rules then.
  21. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Reservist

    A fair summary, but if we win there will be a fair bit of "Silva what's the score?" and "You're getting sacked in the morning".
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  22. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Maureen plays for Spurs.
    She came on against us on Wednesday and invigorated them I believe,with her poor driving.
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  23. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Is there guidance on Richarlison pre match behaviour. I feel like I want to give him a polite clap but is suspect he will celebrate with much gusto if he scores so maybe I should get a boo in first as a countermeasure?
  24. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    If we don't beat this mob and their **** of a manager by at least 4 goles, Gracia can **** right off and take Gino with him.
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  25. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    I booed him when he played for us. I’m certainly not going to stop now that he doesn’t.

    In all seriousness, we should give him hell on Saturday...if only for the fact that we know he sulks etc There’s a good chance he’d get upset and disappear out of the game.
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  26. CaveManHornet

    CaveManHornet Reservist

    Is Digne back? I thought he was still out due to his suspension
  27. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    No, I thought he was but he only had a one match ban.
  28. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Yeah, give him **** because he's playing for the opposition.
  29. CaveManHornet

    CaveManHornet Reservist

    Damn, that's dissapointing.
  30. Lloyd

    Lloyd Reservist

    Everton's poor run of form - which they've been on since about 1988 - has to end some time. Not this weekend though.
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  31. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    I wonder if the announcer will do the usual '...and a warm welcome back to Vicarage Road to former manager X' like they normally do (eg. for Dyche, Lewington this season) or whether, as Silva slithers into his technical area just before kick off, we'll hear the following instead:

    '..and there he is, our former manager Marco 'snake' Silva, who allowed his head to be turned after only a few games by a so-called bigger club where he hasn't done very well and could be sacked should Everton lose today. Please stand up for a minute's hissing, which will finish on the referee's whistle.'
    Beekayess, EB Hornet, Bloke and 5 others like this.
  32. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Do I bother going?
  33. **** Richarlison. He's chosen his side. **** him, **** his stupid name and **** his tiny nips. Give him dog's.
  34. CaveManHornet

    CaveManHornet Reservist

    The only interest I now have with Richarlison is what he'll do when Marco Silva inevitably gets sacked. Will he throw a tantrum, play terribly or will he come to the realisation that Silva's only trait was grooming young Brazilians?
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  35. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    They're finding out about Richarlison now. How he can't stay on his feet for more than 30 seconds at a time and drops like a stone the moment an opposition player gets within a foot of him. The constant fruitless whinging and appealing. How he fades away as the season goes on. How both his head and his effort levels drop when things aren't going his way in a game. And of course, they're sure to have found out by now, to their disgust and horror, about his freak-show, teeny-weeny miniscule areolæ.

    To the tune of 'Guantamera'....

    Tem mamilos minúsculos!
    Richarlison tem mamilos minúsculos!
    Tem mamilos minú-ú-úsculos!

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