Also took Livorno up into Serie A and kept Reggina in Serie A for 3 seasons, including 1 with an 11 point deduction. Similarly, I'm not defending him, but his record is far from ****.
I can confirm the players do regularly read this board. I get PMs from them all the time. The most recent being from troy deeney yesterday "Tell hornetboy1 he's an aching simpleton for me, cheers mate"
If only Joker hadn't been eased out - but he was, and won't come back. So somebody else who has worked in England and comes from Germany, the Netherlands or somewhere else with a culture closer to the UK's than the Mediterranean countries.
I'm no great fan of Mazzarri but this strikes me as nonsense. Other than Fergie and Wenger, the last PL-winning manager who fits this description is Dalglish. I appreciate Pellegrini is Chilean, but would argue that the South American "culture" is closer to the Mediterranean than the German or Dutch. Nigh on certain that the title will be won by a Mediterranean manager this year too. Or are we saying that different principles apply to management of the "big boys" (Leicester aside)?
Good one petal. If you want to post things like this, you have to make it believable. You expect people to believe you have friends? Btw, when you write someone’s name, you use capital letters. Had you not bunked off school quite so often you would know that.
If you look at the traditionally smaller clubs in the top flight there is a fair sprinkling of home grown bosses.. and especially those that have had a bit of longevity (Howe, Dyche, Hughes, Pulis) I know this not exactly proof of superior quality over overseas bosses.. but it does seem to show a trend, i think. Also we arent likely to be in the frame to attract a Premiership winning manager anyway.
No, I agree with the last point (though Ranieri is surely not out of the question), it was more that I was querying what I read as a suggestion that Mediterranean managers didn't "get" British football culture. Maybe one might argue that they "get" it best when they have almost unlimited funds at their disposal.
Did they though? Or did they just offer a job to an out of work coach who needed to rebuild his reputation after a bad experience at Inter followed by a long spell of well-paid gardening leave? I think that the only publication to repeatedly claim that the Pozzos had really pushed the boat out to get their man was WDSport, back when they were still an unofficial mouthpiece of the club. I'm also sceptical of the oft-repeated claim that he lived in Manchester for a year to learn English - even without any real aptitude for languages, a year of immersion would mean that he could communicate far better than he currently can. I suspect that both of these stories were placed by the club to keep the fans onside and make sure Mazzarri was given a warm welcome. I doubt they're any more attached to him than any of other head coaches.
or Wenger? I guess we fall between the twin stools of the monied clubs getting the biggest names they can find and the more modest ones taking the safer punt on a well known local. It's doubtful we'll ever end up with Pulis & co, as long as the Pozzo's remain.. but we'll have to get used to getting managers in that at best we've only ever heard of on Football Manager. The latter is certainly more exciting.
It's oft repeated on here but that doesn't make it true. Mazzarri himself has said he was in Manchester for "3 to 4 months", mainly following football, but even then he went back home to Italy in between. So this idea it was a one year immersive cultural experience is a forum myth. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/walter-mazzarri-returns-familiar-surroundings-9795953
Even by this, he's been exposed to and learning English for over a year, yet still cannot make a sentence. I think it's ridiculous. He holds down a public facing job, yet cannot speak a word. If he was English going to manage in France, Italy, Spain or Germany, to not even make an effort to speak the native language would not be tolerated.
Can we rename the site to "pickonhb1forums.com"? That seems to be around 90% of what posts on here are these days.
No he's only got down to the last two candidates. The Pozzo's have still to make the final decision between HB1 and Mr Bean.
Correct, PHil Nevile now speaks decent conversational Spanish, even Gary learnt a bit. Blimey, even Gazza learnt Italian and he struggles with English!
Apart form joining the sheep on here in having a pop at my posts......is there another reason why it's nonsense?
English was an example....could be a Spanish guy going to Germany or an Italian going to France. You have to speak the language of the country you are in. It's just respecting that nation to at least try. A bit of effort goes a long way. It wouldn't be tolerated in other countries. You say it's ridiculous.......and maybe English people don't care whether this respect is shown or not......but I think it's pretty normal to expect the head coach to make some sort of effort to make a connection through the language of origin.
Okay so you agree your example of English managers in foreign leagues was utter nonsense. Fair enough.
I cannot be held responsible for your lack of understanding, although I do take care to explain in case you are a genuine poster......but clearly you're another that just wants to start something out of nothing. This forum is pretty bizarre at times.
Mazzari's English might not be great but your post is nonsense in suggesting he cannot construct a simple sentence, how do you know this? He explained he wasn't going to speak without an interpreter during press conferences, potchetino did the same in his time at Southampton. Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk
If he could do it, he would. I just don't accept that as an excuse. He's been in the country long enough, taking lessons. There is no excuse for at least an attempt to speak a few simple words. Sannino didn't know any English but soon improved very quickly because he wanted to be accepted. He made a massive effort to be understood, to show his personality to the fans. Mazzarri not even trying is a slap of arrogance as far as I'm concerned.
When GT died, he managed 'I am very sorry' in the news conference. He said it like Manual would say comedically in Faulty Towers, it's all he had. Year 7 French standard.
Are you so lacking in awareness that you don't realise that using English people learning foreign languages verses your disdain for Mazzarri isn't a very clever route to go down?
Very good. If you had a few hours a week of lessons after 18 months how do you think you would get on at an Italian funeral? Year 7 Russian standard or better?
I think you just misunderstood the post and are just not big enough to accept the effort I made in explaining to you that I used English just as an example. I am not English, you know this, and this is why I'm probably given a bit of a hard time on here. But that's ok, I'm still a Watford fan as much as anyone on here. Ok, I get the stereo typing here......but like I said, this was not the point I was making. I was just picking nations at random to emphasis going to any other country and trying to speak in the local tongue goes a long way.....and I think this is totally correct. It shows respect for the people you are working for.
I have no idea where you are from so no idea why you are bringing this in to it. Personally I think you are given a hard time because you come across at a compete fool. Where are you from then? Your English is excellent.
