Vydra's pattern in English football Good season at Watford Poor season out on loan at West Brom Good season at Watford Poor season out on loan at Reading So according to this pattern Vydra will have a good season at Watford next season. Deeney makes Vydra twice the player he is
This half season claim that people make about Vydra is such a myth. He was consistently scoring goals for us in 12/13 up to March (26/38 games into the season) until the team in general went on a poor run of form. He then went 12 games without a goal (hardly unheard of for a 20 year old striker in his first season in a new country) until the end of the season before scoring two massive goals against Leicester in the playoffs to take his tally for the season up to 22, making him our top scorer. He also won the Championship Player of the Year Award this season. In 14/15 he got less games due to Ighalo's incredible form yet still managed 16 goals. It's also worth noting that even when Vydra wasn't scoring - particularly in that run at the end of the 12/13 season - he was still contributing to the team in other ways, such as creating space for the likes of Deeney, Forestieri and Ighalo to thrive. I don't think it's fair at all to describe his contribution or form in either of those seasons as average/poor.
I would hope he is, bearing in mind how much he is costing them in wages and the loan fee plus the generally crap players around him.
Indicated by Flores that he didn't seem to want to conform to what Flores wanted. Don't believe it was fabricated but can't be bothered to look it up.
Or maybe you're wrong. Either way I'm not getting in to a HB1 argument about it as I really don't care
My post was more tongue-in-cheek, but I still maintain that he was only outstanding for half a season. He won the Championship player of the season because it was voted for before the end of the season. I certainly do not think he was our best player that season by any stretch, and am constantly amused by the inconsistency in the winner of that award. Bamford for instance had absolutely nothing on Deeney last season. Vyds scored 4 goals in his last 20 games. Two of which were in the play off semi final. He didn't score in the 13 games between the 1st March and the second leg of the play off final on the 12th May. One of the reasons for our slump was that Vydra's confidence was shattered, and it felt like we were carrying him. I remember countless posts on here asking where the Pre New Year Vydra had gone. I'm not saying that he is a bad player. I thought that we should keep him this year and that he could be a useful counter attacking sub option if he didn't mind spending most of his time on the bench. Just, that the brilliant Vydra largely disappeared at the beginning of 2013, and except for a wonderful 90 minute cameo, has never showed that type of form and consistency since. I certainly didn't expect him to pull up any trees in the premiership. I also that he seemed to lose a bit of the explosive pace that he had when he first came here too, certainly with the ball at his feet.
http://m.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/13711876.Flores_says_Vydra_left_because_he_did_not_adapt/ There's the article
I like him, and I would have liked to see him here this season. But in reality, he had three outstanding months, and for the rest of the time contributed little. There is no point in re-writing history now in the hope that people have forgotten - even in that Leicester game you could have taken him off just before the goal and no one would have been concerned. But boy, what a three months that was! More recent comments about Vyds mirrored almost exactly Almunia's concerns about his application in training, but the reality is, as JB properly pointed out, that last season, he was consistently scoring goals; where as, in his first season he just seemed to switch off. I think he proved himself last season. Yep, he could be sulky, but he had learned to keep going. He may not train perfectly, but I think it was a little defeatist to turn down the challenge of motivating him in the PL. There is the risk that he could be disruptive to the team, but I don't think that is what was being implied as reasons for letting him go on loan.
Have you only started watching watford this season?? Wouldn't surprise me with these vydra comments. If you saw him in the 2012/13 season and even last season you would know just what a bloody great player he is. His finishing, his pace, his technical ability and movement are more than any current striker we have, when he's on form there's no one better in our team and even when he isn't his pace, clever runs and good interplay (something non existent in ighalos game) would frighten even the best defences!! I've got a better idea though. Let's buy a lump of a striker that isn't ready to play for afc Wimbledon yet let alone us, and a brilliant winger and stick them up front instead!! QSF, bloody Genius!!
Hornet23 hates Vydra for a yet undisclosed reason. We've narrowed it down to either Vydra ****ed his girlfriend. Or rejected him.
This is moronic, I'm afraid. There isn't a simple relationship between performance and the division that someone's playing in. A 26 year old Jamie Vardy only scored four goals in the Championship in 2012/13 yet the 29 year old version is the second top scorer in the Premier League this season. When considering Vydra's potential worth to Watford, isn't it better to look at his performances at Watford? In particular, the partnership with Deeney which was the main reason for the exhilarating, counter attacking football that we played during 2012/13 and 2014/15. The partnership between Ighalo and Deeney this season has been good but in my opinion is nowhere near as natural as the one between Vydra and Deeney, which was far more balanced with both players regularly setting each other up. I wonder who Troy would rather have had bearing down on goal at Old Trafford when he was free in the middle? Yes, there's no guarantee that Vydra would have been a success but it's hard to think we would have been worse off with him as our third striking option this season. Any player that has the technique, pace and movement to score the variety of goals including Millwall away (2014/15), Leicester home (2012/13) and Brighton away (2012/13) has the potential to make it in the Premier League.
Best finisher at Watford in many years and arguably better link up play with Deeney than Ighalo For the sake of his career needs to be sold or be part of the squad next season. Another loan out will do him no favours.
This could mean any number of things, but some people choose to interpret as Vydra had a bad attitude. Maybe Vydra wasn't happy with playing in a system which is anti-attacking so Quique got rid of him so he could incorporate more negative players.
Maybe. But then when did a demonstration of player power, resulting in that player having to leave the squad, not come down to 'bad attitude' on the part of the player? Beppe was publicly okay with Lloyd Dyer after the Rotherham incident but people on here we happy to ignore that and label him as a trouble maker.
Vydra probably didnt look like he was attuned to QSF in regards to his defensive side of the game. The Vydra that sulked and occasionally stood motionless upfront would have made QSF infuriated with his lack of defensive application and keeping the defensive block. He wanted players who fitted into doing things his way. In the first few games we had Deeney upfront on his own - until QSF switched Deeney and Ighalo. I think QSF was too quick in getting rid of Vydra and I think even he probably regrets it - not that he would admit it in public. Vydra would have been a useful sub and could have been rotated with Ighalo occasionally. There are no striker options from the bench - including Ambarat who is as much a striker as Anya is.
He was a trouble maker. He openly put Cadbury's Creme Eggs in people's shoes and left a whoopie cushion on Beppe's office chair. It was what made him resign.
If it was just Quique who had questioned Vydra, I'd probably be a bit sceptical. But it isn't. Slav and Almunia also publicly challenged him to sort out his attitude, so the balance of probability leans to him being a bit of a **** on the training ground. I suppose what you could say is that Slav kept him in the squad and forced him to up his game. Equally, I think it's easier to do that when you have one of the best squads in the Championship. I imagine Quique felt there was no room for such a character in a likely Premier League relegation scrap. In hindsight, we ended up pulling away from the scrap with relative ease, so could have taken a few more risks, but nobody was to know that in July.
To me, it sounds like Vydra didn't like the idea of playing at right back, or wherever Quique would have ended up playing him.
You should do pal.FF and Vydra would of added more goals fact.Big Big mistake in letting them go like I have said many times.If people don't start chipping in some goals soon this season could end bad,So I hope you are pleased with the players brought in that we're meant to add some goals and be better than FF &Vydra.Just to remind you how many attacking players have scored goals this season???Apart from Ighalo & Deeney.
Oscar,please do let us know who you would in our current squad have as our 3rd striker? Or who we could realistically get in to be our 3rd striker next season seeing as you do not seem to be Vydra fan. I have already pointed out who imo which central defenders he could get the better of if he had been with us this season.i Cannot wait to be enlightened
He's scored 8 in 23 starts and 6 sub appearances. http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=56676
