Covid-19 Virus

You've missed out uni students there.

(Incidentally, if you'd like Mrs Keighley to send the dog around with a food parcel to your daughter's hall, just say the word. ).

 

Apparently some students have been fined £10k in Nottingham for holding a party last week. Follows on from a similar fine a couple of weeks earlier. Still, the "Uni Experience"...

 

17,540 cases reported today - think that's the most recorded in one day (although a drop in the ocean compared to March/April)

 

No need, Bristol Uni has done them proud - for free. I'm not sure they should be giving them all Dorset Cereals muesli or Koppaberg Hard Seltzer, but maybe they have a deal with the manufacturers!

 

I get to see the accounts (sort of): I'll let you know!

 

Happened 15 September before Notts students went back. So not sure if this is the Uni experience or simply the young and daft experience. But sure, there are some.

But I’m not sure why you are so determined on this though. You can find idiots in any age group. The groundswell of Piers Corbyn/Icke loons defying social distancing masks and vaccinations in 15,000 strong gatherings are mostly middle aged and above.

And when did we decide to start listening to students and taking seriously what they say after a beer or two? I missed that meeting. Let it go Zeez.

 

Trump, for example.

 

I thought in March/April the recorded cases never got above about 6500? Obviously the actual amount of cases was a lot higher, but testing was far less etc.

 

I don't see that I should let it go as long as you keep defending them, and everyone else in Nottingham have to suffer tougher measures because of their selfishness.

 

From the Beeb:

Leader of Nottingham City Council, David Mellen, told the BBC: "When you move about 50,000 extra adults into our city... it could have been anticipated this would have an effect on our infection rates."

He added the fact so many young people were learning online made him question "whether students need to be in a specific place".

 

For the hundredth time, I’m not defending students who behave selfishly, I’m telling you most are not.

I’ve asked you before how exactly you think people from all over the Country, living in blocks of 300 or more, sharing bathroom facilities and dining rooms were to avoid it? Impossible.

Nottingham has its students back because the University and the local economy couldn’t imagine them not returning. Everywhere in the Country has different Covid challenges, not all of them student related. Not all down to people’s selfishness.

 

And because universities need the rental cash...

 

Well, as I have explained, the spike is mostly in the wards where the students live, I'm not just talking about where the halls of residences are, I'm talking about the shared houses are. Whereas adjoining wards, and across the rest of Nottingham the rate have stayed at similar levels or actually gone down.

73% last night in the student wards last night, now up to 84%. Students have been fined for putting on parties, and every local news show shows students boasting about how they are getting the full "Uni experience" and how can we "expect anything different with fresher week in full swing". But I have also been quite clear that most students are behaving well, and will now be suffering along with us with extra measures.

It is now likely that my ill daughter will be unlikely to be able to see her daughter for at least the next few week/months. I'm not blaming all students, and I'm not blaming the selfish ones for the virus but I certainly think they are making it worse.

It is quite strange how most boarding schools have not experienced spikes like this. They are living in similar circumstances as the Uni Halls, most have been open for a month now, yet mostly seem to have escaped the virus. Things can change of course, but the main differences between them and the Uni's is the lack of booze, a ban on intimate personal relationships and no fresher week parties.

 

Boarding schools are essentially massive bubbles which have next to no contact with the outside world. Pupils don’t need to go to the supermarket, work or mix with anyone else, and are therefore safer than pretty much every other group, bar those completely self isolating.

A more interesting comparator would be the spread in communities which have experienced travel, live in built up urban areas and cohabit with 5+ people.

 

Are you suggesting that the students tend to get infected at the local supermarket, rather than from their fellow students?

Sorry, but this is starting to get a bit daft.

 

Also, number of boarding school children in U.K. = c. 70,000.

Number of university students = 2.38 million.

 

But the spike numbers are relative, per hundred thousand.

I'm not sure what your point is, the boarding schools I have some involvement with are about 75% boarders, whereas Universities are something like 75% - 80% with the rest staying at home - similar proportions.

 

I take that point. But it’s surely much easier to make a school of a few hundred pupils, probably on quite a small site, Covid-secure than it is a university of upwards of 10,000 students who might be spread across a number of areas of a city.

I don’t think the institutions are comparable in that sense. Not that I think universities have done a very good job of this. Far too many students have been permitted to return to campus.

 

Yes, that is my point. They are acting responsibly, and most likely are not getting up to the same sort of shenanigans within their confines as some Uni students have. But, most boarding schools, having got over the initial risky new cohort influx passes their "quarantine" period, are starting to relax the restrictions.

 

Take vitamin D supplements and eat plenty of smoked salmon and you won't get Covid, apparently

 

And the age-range is somewhat different...

 

I remember the teachers saying, on the subject of schools going back, that they were most concerned about the younger children not sticking to the SD rules, as they were obviously less mature, and didn't understand the reasons behind it all. Does that continue into young adulthood?

 

I think the younger age group at school are much less likely to become infected to the extent anyone even finds out.

 

And if you do, just inject yourself with bleach. Problem solved!

 

This message brought to you by Lance Forman, Brexit Party MEP and CEO of Formans's Smoked Salmon and rip-off restaurant Company.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/9467551/Formans-Fish-Island-London-restaurant-review.html

 

You read the Telegraph GOBE! You've gone up a notch in my estimation! I first read about the miracle of Vitamin D and Salmon here... If you like the Telegraph you'll love this site!

https://lockdownsceptics.org/vitamin-d-a-silver-bullet-to-get-rid-of-covid-19-lockdowns/

 

Isn't smoked salmon a bit beneath you, @Lloyd? I had you down more as a champagne and oysters person.

 

Quite honestly, there is probably a little truth to the vitamin D claim, but only in the context that if you're vitamin D deficient you're probably more at risk.

I broke my arm a couple of years ago, and the doctors tested my vitamin D levels and found that I was seriously deficient (not uncommon in this state, apparently). In the years prior to breaking my arm, I got ill quite frequently, which was distinctly odd as I never used to get ill much at all. After seeing how low my levels were (I think below 30 was considered bad and I was somewhere around 6!), my doctor confirmed this was probably why I'd been getting sick so frequently and prescribed a high dose vitamin D treatment to help get my levels back up and promote the bone healing (plus fix my immune system deficiency).

I think it would be misleading to say that vitamin D is a cure for Covid; it isn't. It would be more accurate say that not having a sub-optimal immune system due to a vitamin D deficiency will return your chances of fighting it off to normal. Of course, in relative terms that translates to an increase in chances for those who have a deficiency.

The salmon is just weird, though. If you're that deficient that your immune system is compromised, a fish supper isn't going to touch it. You need a highly concentrated dose.

 

This vitamin D 'theory' was 'linked' to the higher incidence of c19 amongst non-honkeys?

 

To be honest, I'm more cod and chips washed down with a can of Tizer

 

Tizer! Good grief, I haven't had that in years. One of the many things you can't get over here.

Loved it as a kid. Would bite someone's arm off for a can of that and an Irn-Bru. Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.