Werewolf XVI: Day 3

Discussion in 'Old Games' started by 352, Jun 3, 2015.

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  1. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    This. Sorry Darave.

    Unless some ridiculous things occur in the next few hours, my vote will have to head to you.

    I said yesterday I will follow more logic from now on, and not just vote people on a hunch like I have done the previous two days. The logical thing is to vote for Darave.
     
  2. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    ahhh Moog my wolfie friend good of you to join us and try to make out Norway as a seer, nice twisting tactics
     
  3. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I don't think there is any other option but to go for Darave.

    Following that Miked
     
  4. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    ill go along with this, just makes team evil think they have the upper hand for an extra day but we know who you are.....
     
  5. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Nairobi, at the moment all your actions are one of a traitor !
     
  6. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    The more I look into Norway's posts and voting the more I'm starting to see. Very interesting indeed.
     
  7. 352

    352 Moderator

    Just to clear up what looks like a genuine question to me...

    There is nothing stopping a wolf killing another wolf, as far as I'm concerned.
     
  8. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    You know with two messages saying somebody is evil, and you so vigorously defending them, I'm getting suspicious about you now.

    Norway never hinted I was evil. All he said was that I was throwing a lot of accusations out.
     
  9. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Think I know who the seer is.
     
  10. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    it is isn't it....
     
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  11. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    This is incorrect. I put forward an argument that we had no evidence on TVOR and that we should vote for Darave. Most people ignored this but you went further and said if TVOR was evil that I would be the traitor (this was after I accused you and PO of being the two strongest supporters for Cude, who was evil.) After sticking up for myself, you then changed your tune, and now this morning you are acting like you were supporting TVOR all along when really you were trying to cover all your bases yesterday (by voting Darave and by accusing me of being TVOR's biggest supporter, so if he was evil I would be your next target.)
     
  12. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    hey I have no problems voting Darave off as its the most logical, if he is evil but not a wolf, then we know that my theory can be expanded, if he is a wolf then I have got it all wrong. I don't think I have it wrong though do I Harrowolfie?
     
  13. darave8

    darave8 Forum lucky person

    this
     
  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Weak. Very weak.

    Norway's voting was always in line with one of the day's messages. He seemed to try and lead people away from the wolf's message (eg. implicating TVOR).

    His spat with me, if you'll read back, was because I accused him. He then responded in much the same way as you just have - making a random and completely new accusation, presumably either to retaliate or to try and rattle me and see if it prompted a reaction which would merit further examination.

    In 2 whole days of posting previous to that, he had neither mentioned me in a post (that I'm aware of) nor suggested he might vote for me. Either he's the Seer and he was just testing the water with me, or if he was the Witness, he'd have known who was evil from minute one of the game and not just decided to have a pop at me because I had done so at him.
     
  15. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    I think Diamond maybe seeing what I am seeing
     
  16. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I don't think Norway was the seer, he has a very unique writing style
     
  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    This is the problem with early viewings - we have an obvious choice to make now, but now people are starting to "think" and making all kinds of leaps.
     
  18. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    remember Mr Experienced wolfie, he can only hint but cant out rightly say you are a wolf. he did that perfectly for if he was killed. If you are the Alpha, big mistake if not then blame Miked or Harrow for giving the game away by killing him.
     
  19. darave8

    darave8 Forum lucky person

    I have to go and actually do some work now!

    I would implore you all to at least read Norway's posts and look at his voting. Once you do, the penny will drop.

    Well done Nairobi for working it out. I understand why people are think of voting me but I would really take the time to consider why both sides want me dead.

    If we vote for one of Norway's suspects today and they turn out to be good (extremely unlikely) then I give you my word that I won't even put up a case tomorrow and will vote to lynch myself as soon as the poll opens.
     
  20. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    I think noiron is starting to see it too watch out team evil we are coming for you mwhahahaha
     
  21. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Lets get the ball rolling...

    We need common sense here guys. The seer has quite clearly viewed Darave as evil. How can we disregard this?

    I will hold my hands up straight away and admit I was wrong if he turns out to be the tinker.
     
  22. darave8

    darave8 Forum lucky person

    Desperate early move to start the vote flying my way? Not surprised considering you're a prime suspect.

    If anything this just strengthens the case against the Norway suspects. Don't let the poor bloke die in vain!
     
  23. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    You're missing the point again.

    The sequence of events was as follow:

    Norway suggests he will just vote for himself because he can't make a decision

    I attack him for this approach - it doesn't help the villagers (also, why if he's the witness was he proposing to waste his vote?). We need good players to use their votes each day otherwise we allow the evil players' votes to carry more sway.

    He then hits back with a random accusation (not particularly full of conviction)

    I then accuse him of being like TVOR (which he is)

    He then suggest he will keep an eye on me (ie. possibly view me) based on my having a go at his wasting his vote.

    Pick the bones out of that, smartass and stop trying to find solid purchase where there is only mist and cobwebs.

    Darave has been viewed as evil by our Seer. Today. That means he is most likely evil, though a small chance he could be a tinker. He's still twisting in the wind, despite having been named on each and every day thus far in the messages and now confirmed as showing up evil.

    I question the motives of anyone trying to steer us away from Darave today. Even if he's possibly the tinker, he has to go so that we can eliminate him and get the best out of tomorrow's messages.
     
  24. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    You've no business trying to lead the mob. If they follow you and let you live, they are all going to look pretty stupid in the post mortem.

    Every time a player has shown up evil and managed to persuade people to let them live another day, it has only made all the people who voted against lynching them look like idiots.

    The tinker is a minor role in the game. Yes he's a factor, but we still have to take the only known facts we have and use them. It served us on Day 1 when some of you were jumping to conclusions, against the messages and it will serve us well if we continue to follow the messages and not the hunches of a few mavericks.
     
  25. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    So, it seems pretty clear to me Norway was the witness, who knows the identity of the Wolves. He voted for Cude on the first day who was evil and he was the only person so vote for miked on the second day. The majority went for TVOR/Darave. We now know TVOR was good, and there's a good chance Darave is also good (tinker).

    Again, I'm going on the assumption Norway was the Witness, but if Darave is definitely an 'evil' character, why wouldn't the Witness vote for him? Because he knows he's not a wolf.

    Darave: Tinker

    Miked: Wolf

    I'll be voting for miked tonight. I think darave will end up getting lynched but it'll be a wasted lynching.
     
  26. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    To be fair, I also had a go at Norway for not voting and he didn't fire any accusations my way.

    However, there is nothing to be gained from not voting Darave, as suspicious I am of other players.

    If he doesn't die, we will only question it again tomorrow.
     
  27. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    I will happily vote for Darave today if needs must as it will clear up an awful lot either way. if hi is the tinker then you three are the wolves, if he is not then I was completely wrong and hold my hands up...... but im not am I? your starting to sweat a little bit by referring to "comments like smartass" I think ive caught a big hairy wolfie here guys!
     
  28. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Oh and Moog is looking very traitorous indeed right now.
     
  29. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    tremendous! another one who has seen the light of our fallen hero
     
  30. darave8

    darave8 Forum lucky person

    One last thing before I go out.

    Vote for Miked today and he turns out evil, we then uncover the whole wolf network and pretty much win the game.

    Vote for me, I turn out as the tinker (which I am) and you are none the wiser and a lot more good players down.

    It's up to you, but we have a chance to basically win this today, don't lose it.
     
  31. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    He can only vote for one person though, and there is more than one evil player.

    I wonder did he vote when the result was a foregone conclusion? U.e his vote for miked would have received more attention than being one of a group voting Darave
     
  32. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I think the natural step after you is Miked.

    For what its worth, I believe both of you are evil
     
  33. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    So I'm not number one on your list then?

    I made it clear with my 'strange' vote on day one what my head was telling me
     
  34. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    This.

    He was viewed as EVIL guys and the logic really is to vote for him. Common sense usually prevails in this game and this why I have voted early, to try and get the ball rolling and ensure that nobody gets swayed away from the most logical vote.

    If he turns out good, he's the tinker. Of course I will be a prime suspect if this happens, and the seer can view me if he wants, but I would not be surprised if the wolf will claim he's viewed me too and state the polar opposite and say I'm evil.
     
  35. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    You know sometimes when you're away from the game and not thinking about it and suddenly a thought pops into your head...

    Every single person named in either message so far is either dead or severely suspected. Three of those posts will have been from the wolf. Think about that for a minute.
     
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