Werewolf XVI: Day 3

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  1. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    My bad. :drinking:
  2. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Sounds like wolf talk to me ;)
  3. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    You seem certain you will be alive in the morning. Now this is wolf like behaviour. Keep an eye on WAS guys :)
  4. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I think I must be the opposite of this then!
  5. sonofben

    sonofben Reservist

    The slings and arrows of accusation... I miss Meh and his poems.
  6. merchandiseman41

    merchandiseman41 Reservist

    **** day at work.

    In my role Ie been sourcing new merchandise as very thing was trashed on the first night at the footie.

    Just plowing through the thread and I havent looked at the votes
  7. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    An enjoyable read so far this game. Sorry I have not contributed much, literally been treating poorly horses all day apart from 10 minutes at lunch when I managed to cast my vote.

    You asked for my thoughts thus far, well here you are:

    - darave had to go today, no other choice in the matter, as others have said he has been on borrowed time since day one.

    - do I think darave is evil? I really don't know. I hope so, however he continues to insist he is good and is trying to get his points across now much like TVOR was yesterday. this is leaving me with an uneasy feeling at the moment.

    - even if darave goes, are we certain miked is good? it depends which message you believe to be from the seer yesterday. we know for a fact that TVOR was good and so that message was in fact telling the truth, however could the wolf have just got quite lucky? luck makes a big part of this game.

    - one thing that does make me suspect mike though is his insistence that he is GOOD. ok, we get that you were called innocent, but really there is no solid evidence thus far. are you just a clever wolf covering your tracks? I think we need to see what happens tonight and overnight.

    Hopefully the messages tomorrow will reveal a bit more, but at the moment Im not sure about anything. Consider me to be sitting on the fence about all of you until proven otherwise.
  8. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Okay so I have gone back through the last day. If darave is evil (and due to the messages I have a great suspicion he is the alpha) then the following have seemed suspicious in this thread:

    I think NI is suspect, due to the way he defended himself and his approach to questioning me earlier.

    Nairobi too, as he started the day really trying to defend darave. Then, when the votes were getting one sided, quickly changed tack to go along with the normal argument.

    With these two highlighted for me, it makes me look at With A Smiles post. Of course, I am not sure if he is good or not, but that might implicate Diamond too.

    To be fair though, I'll probably see the posts tomorrow and go mad trying to chase down the meaning of them, like I did to poor TVOR (RIP) on the first day.

    Or you'll just lynch me all anyway, due to the chaotic approach I take to hunting baddies (again, sorry VOR).

  9. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Wouldn't you have tried to defend yourself against a random vote? I.e a vote when I hadn't been mentioned in any messages.

    Personally I felt I responded to the accusation with logic, unlike the poorly constructed accusation itself.
  10. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    To be fair if you are evil, I do not think you are a wolf.

    Your post:

    It just drew suspicion to me as we have no way of knowing that the traitor is dead, and I think you knew that.

    Seemed to me like my tactic in the last game, when I said that the witness must be dead to evade attention (to my eventual despair when later I was trying to hint I was the witness, but everyone thought me dead).

    And if this theory is true, I would say that nairobi is the wolf that picked the same person as darave (as if darave is guilty, he was clearly trying to influence the vote strongly early on).

    Anyway, just a few musings... Like I said, the message will actually give us something to go on anyway.
  11. nairobi hornet

    nairobi hornet Reservist

    Sorry guys had to go due to family emergency, won't be active for rest of the night but hope to be back on tomorrow if all goes well tonight
  12. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    My point was that 3 wolves were alive last night to make a kill (3 kills). So my thoughts when I posted that were that one wolf and one traitor must have died.

    Someone pointed out after the if Cthulu was a wolf and was killed then his pick to kill might still have been processed, so that corrected me there. Although, depending on whether or not Darave is good, we will find out tonight
  13. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    For those of you who believe that Norway Hornet was the witness- here's something you would've missed. He liked a message yesterday where I said miked2006 isn't 100% definitely good, and that the first message yesterday could have been from the wolf. This is the message he liked:


    "I agree that we can't yet rule out the first message being the wolf, and so miked2006 isn't certain to be 100% good. However right now everything seems to point to the second message being the wolf. Hopefully tomorrow we'll be able to work out for sure who sent today's messages, as we'll know whether TVOR/darave (whoever's lynched) are good or evil and the messages tomorrow should contain further clues/references to who sent which today."

    Could be something or could be nothing? But I do have my suspicions of mike. It would also make sense if the second message from yesterday was from the seer, as he would've viewed TVOR- who we now know he was correct in stating he was good, and so he suggested lynching darave, on the basis that the wolf had mentioned him in his message on day 1. The wolf may be trying too hard to replicate the style of the seers message on day 1.

    Looking at todays messages again and comparing them to yesterdays, message 1 yesterday is the same person as message 2 today (since they both mention Mike being good). Now if it is the case that message 1 yesterday was the wolf then it does appear weird that the wolf would post 2nd today and just repeat the seers message and willingly kill off a player the seer has viewed as evil. However there are a couple of possible explanations for this, 1. the alpha wolf may be one of the wolves who know each other, and so he knows that with there being only 1 other wolf but 2 tinkers there is in reality only a 1/3 chance that he is bumping off a fellow villain (this of course presuming that darave is not the other wolf the alpha knows about)
    and 2. He may have seen darave's lynching as pretty much unpreventable anyway, what with him being named on day 1 as good and then today as evil, suspicion was growing very very heavily on him. Instead he may have wanted the main outcome of his message to be the apparent cementing of the idea that mike as good, which he reiterates once again his message. Thus he decided to come across as being the seer by telling the truth and killing off darave.

    If this logic is correct then could the seer please view Mike tomorrow so we can know for sure!
  14. merchandiseman41

    merchandiseman41 Reservist

    I have this as Wolf viewed Miked
  15. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    I still think the message clearing Mike was from the Seer. Mainly because of the writing styles. If that message was from the wolf then it means the Seer totally changed their style between day one and two. Not likely in my opinion.
  16. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    That is true. But the message on day 2 copied the seers message on day 1 pretty much line by line in style, which comes across as the wolf trying too hard to imitate rather than someone's natural writing style coming through. Or perhaps the seer is just trying to make it really clear which are his messages which would also make sense. Ah I just don't know anymore! Should hopefully become clearer tomorrow as both of the messages should hopefully contain references to mike- and whether it is the first time they have viewed him or just reiterating the fact they viewed him on day 2 (or it could just complicate matters further)
  17. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    Yes that's what normally happens. After the first day the Wolfs messages will start to converge somewhat with the Seers to make them as indistinguishable as possible.

    For the Seers message to go the other way and read like it was written by the wolf just seems to go against any logic whatsoever.
  18. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Sorry, very busy day today! My heart says go with Mike because I have had an inkling since day one but logic says Darave and he can't lose now anyway so might as well jump on the bandwagon.
  19. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    I know I haven't been very active but i'll read through everything since day 1 tonight and try and work some of this out.

    Currently got it down to 19.... it's a start, right?
  20. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    Yes, that would be very bizarre. If it wasn't for the writing styles I would be pretty sure message 1 yesterday was the wolf... now I just don't know. Things will be clearer tonight/tomorrow with new messages, we find out if darave is good/evil (this I'm REALLY interested in finding out), and we'll know if cthulhu was a wolf or traitor.
  21. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    Um, guys, I've just noticed that Daft Row has never made a single post in the game. Like, EVER. What's all that about? He did manage to vote yesterday and on Monday (just following the crowd) but he has failed to vote today
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Has he been active in the rest of the forum?
  23. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    Nope, but he voted right after I posted my last message so has obviously been online today along with yesterday and Monday.
    btw Moog you're the last person who needs to vote
  24. 352

    352 Moderator

    I've been away te last few hours and have literally only sren this message - no idea how everything else is going. Just to let you know, I've spoken to him and he will be killed if he fails to both post and vote today.
  25. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Doesn't look like I've missed too much since earlier! Clearly darave8 will be lynched tonight and that episode will be over one way or another.

    Some very interesting possibilities for tomorrow dependent on the lynching and kills tonight.
  26. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    Cthulhu was a wolf.
  27. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    How do you know he wasn't the traitor?
  28. 352

    352 Moderator

    Sorry guys, write up will be later. A lot later in fact. With that in mind in going to let you know darave's role so that the night players can sort out their kills etc.

    Here's the short version.

    darave8 is a TINKER.

    EDIT: Due to the length of the write up required for tomorrow's dawn scene, I'll have to pretty much leave it at that I'm afraid. Sorry I couldn't send you off in much style darave, I will let you know that you went down via a swift kick to the b*llocks from miked2006 though. What a way to go.

    Tomorrow is approaching...
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2015
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