Watford Fc 1-1 Newcastle United - 25/09/2021

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by reids, Sep 19, 2021.

  1. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    On the subject of us dealing with set pieces well or otherwise, having thought about it I don’t think we dealt with them well at all. At one point we gave four consecutive corners away, putting the ball out for a corner, from a corner isn’t really dealing with the problem, it’s just delaying the problem. As it was it just gave them some nice practice for their actual goal.
     
  2. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I don't think that's particularly a problem, it's not exactly an uncommon occurrence, after all, if you have to head it behind, you have to head it behind, but leaving Longstaff in space to let rip from outside the box THREE TIMES was not smart
     
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  3. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    That’s the thing though, if you keep putting it out for a corner then law of averages dictates you’ll eventually cause yourself a problem.
     
  4. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    But we were comfortable at heading the ball away, if we'd just closed down Longstaff, we'd have been fine
     
  5. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange


    Liked for the always sunny link
     
  6. Ybotcoombes

    Ybotcoombes Justworkedouthowtochange

    also liked for the always sunny link
     
  7. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I don’t mean to be harsh but it’s not remotely hard to see from that angle, which is about the perfect one. He’s miles offside!
     
  8. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Also, what was very odd thinking about it was that King didn’t get booked for taking his shirt off. Presumably that was because the goal was disallowed, but that makes zero sense because it’s for inciting the crowd which obviously still happens either way, or is it in fact a rule you don’t get booked if the goal is chalked off?

    Obviously I’m not complaining our player wasn’t booked, it just seems to potentially make the referees performance even more bizarre.
     
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  9. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    You’re right. The laws say:

     
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  10. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    The referee was beyond abysmal. He was not up to standard and that was just one of many examples.
     
  11. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I can see why the officials didn't give it as King and the Newcastle defender were going in opposite directions, but it was miles offside. Slightly cushioned the blow of having a goal chalked off when I saw how clear it was in the end though!
     
  12. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    He may have been a good ref in the A-League, but he was in the Championship last season, and well, we all know about Championship refs!
     
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  13. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    I look forward to him ******* up many of our games as he learns his trade over time, before being allowed to officiate one of the real premier league sides like Man Utd or Spurs.
     
  14. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Squad Player

    It seems it’s a rule that’s not often enforced though, at least when it comes to taking your shirt off and putting on a mask, that Deeney goal and Jimenez’s goal celebrations are clear examples of that.
     
  15. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Deeney was booked for his celebration against Leicester, don't think Oliver spotted Jimenez's mask
     
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  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    He went form booking loads to booking no-one.

    Like he run out of lead in the pencil or room on his cards.
     
  17. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

  18. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Was he the VAR ref in the match at Spuds in the relegation season who didn't over-rule the 'no penalty' decision when Vertonghen fouled GD 3 times in one challenge? His reasoning? He didn't consider it a 'clear and obvious error' because as the pitch 'falls away' towards the goal-line, the on-field ref could not have had a clear view. And let's not mention allowing Alli's equaliser which he could have ruled out on 2 counts: handball and, more blatantly, Kane's push on Kabasele that resulted in the ball even reaching Alli. I think it was him.
     
  19. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Why didn’t King get booked for taking off his shirt after his “goal”? Is it because if the goal is disallowed then the shirt removal is disallowed too or is it because the referee was a useless buffoon?
     
  20. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Because he was a bottlejob, he should have sent off Manquillo for kicking the ball away when he was on a yellow, and there was a Kucka foul that he only gave once he saw the Newcastle player on the floor for ages
     
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  21. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I know Oliver is an absolute turd but surely even he spotted a bloke putting on a wrestling mask!
     
  22. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Squad Player

    Oh, I forgot the bit about being just booked as opposed to being sent off, I remember one example of a player being sent off for taking off his shirt many years ago when Luke Rodgers was sent off after scoring a hat-trick at Rochdale.
     
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  23. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Neither of the two yellows he gave in the first 15 minutes were yellows, especially the Newcastle one as he clearly did make an attempt to reach the ball. He obviously thought he was being clever by ‘laying down a marker’ but then didn’t have the guts to see it through, Including two specific events that are designated as yellow cards, they’re not even subjective decisions.
     
  24. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Probably turned his back on it and you wouldn’t get booked for putting a mask on surely ?
     
  25. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    At least pretend to read the same page of the thread before posting :D
     
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  26. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Cholevas's skill on a dead is sorely missed (and he always appeared to be 'up for it'). Much to same as Proedl - his height is missed.
     
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  27. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Nope - https://www.premierleague.com/news/1451299
     
  28. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    **** - it's free.
     
  29. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    That's G I M P - someone 0bviously not a fan of 'Deadwood' nor 'Pulp Fiction'.
     
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  30. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    You're right. Mistaken identity. My bad. Bachmann made some goods saves though, didn't he?
     
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  31. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Squad Player

    Seriously though, it's good this site have made it a swear word, which hasn't always been the case.
     
  32. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    Duck? Horse? Parrot?
     
  33. dynamo380

    dynamo380 Reservist

    Inconsistent, strange decisions, bottled giving a player a second yellow - sounds like he would fit in perfectly with the normal refs we get as this level
     
  34. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    G I M P, obviously.
     
  35. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    If it's the same one I'm thinking of the Newcastle one would be correct as it was for stopping a promising attack. But there was no consistency whatsoever on Gillett's interpretation of SPA.

    Completely bottled several decisions and very clearly didn't want to send anyone off/have any major controversy in his first game. Don't think his assistants were very good either. Bizarrely late/redundant flag for King's goal, and no help for clear fouls on Sarr in the corner.
     
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