Vydra needs to settle for middle-aged mediocrity. Eventually we all accept we won't grow up to be David Beckham (except for David Beckham who never has) and are happier and more level as a result. This obsession with making it to the Premier League without us will just make him unhappy.
Fairrrrrly certain Deeney never said Vydra wouldn't be welcome back not would he be back, did he? Though I'd have noticed that.
As for Vydra not cutting it in the Prem, I decided early on, when Deeney was otherwise engaged, that Vydra wouldn't cut it as a lone striker. His greedy agent should have asked a few more questions about West Brom's proposed formation before sending him there. He'd be good alongside Crouch or Carroll (but don't tell anyone I said so).
Vydra's return should prove no issue as I believe the main issue was between him and Jean-Alain Fanchone.
Contracts aren't actually worth the paper they are written on, but maybe this season will be different. But he does now have four years(?) left on his contract, maybe he will become ours for an undisclosed fee. Play like you did. Possible promotion. Possible being back in the limelight. But one thing is for sure. You're going to WD18 lad
This thread has officially become akin to sitting in the pub talking about Vydra returning, whilst waiting for someone to burst in the door shouting 'he's back! He's back!' And it's ****ing annoyingly addictive.
If his agents claim that Vydra would prefer to play in the First Division is correct, then his confidence has taken a massive knock. Dropping down two divisions? http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/11201016._/?
Really? Actually he has been rather gushing about the Pozzos and their Watford project. It is sad that once again a once revered article is forgotten as some sort of inconvenience, it is entitled Matej Vydra's agent expects permanent move to Watford despite Premier League interest, http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sp...ects_permanent_Watford_move_despite_interest/ It is undoubtedly the view of Chovanec, and at the time he was hailed by ITKs on this forum, possibly even yourself, as knowing and savvy. Later, it was discussed that Vydra had thrown his dummy out of the pram in late January, soon after this article, because the Pozzos would not let him move elsewhere during that transfer window, when certain premiere clubs were said to be interested. So, Chovanec definitely positive, Vydra possibly not so. Next news we get from Chovanec (much later) is that he has had a meeting with Matej, and that he doesn't want to play for Watford: http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sp...gine__Vydra_will_stay_in_Championship/?ref=rc Chovanec states that "I can’t imagine him playing in the Championship again right now, We discussed it with the boy and he would like to play with the top players on the top level" That is fair enough, but it can't be interpreted as "I would like to stay at Watford" or "I am happy in the Championship". "We" is certainly the Pozzos, as the meeting between the parties was telegraphed in the preceding weeks. Most on here will also remember that the club stated that those players that wanted to stay, would stay. Matej may not be on record as stating absolutely that he doesn't want to play at Watford any more, but just the same, he has never gone on record to say that he liked it here, or that he would play here again, or that he wanted to stay. Dismissing the negative things he says because he is not personally on record works equally on the positive things. Chovanec has been virtually the exclusive mouthpiece for Vydra, good or bad, and I do not believe that Chovanec works him like a puppet. I think that to suggest he does is a huge insult to Matej. Simple question though: does anyone think that Matej Vydra wants to come back to Watford next season, and if you thought he didn't, would you want him back? Does anyone, even the most optimistic, really think he wants to be at Vicarage Road next year? PS Frank Smith's articles in the WO this week are pieces of 5hit designed purely to impress their advertisers with closed season hits on the site. His source for the new five year contract is almost certainly this forum (the only place it has been mentioned), and I challenge him, if it wasn't, to reveal where he did get the information. Remember this from last year? http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sp...k__Vydra_s_agent_links_striker_with_West_Ham/ A deliberate wind up Headline that told no lies, but clearly aimed at getting hits on the website rather than serious journalism or informing the fans of anything they weren't already aware of. God, we were lucky when we had Oly Philips. The Obo often reflects the forums, or reacts to the forums in its articles. We should be flattered if the articles weren't so lazy and poor at times.
i think one important point is that WE are emotionally attached to WFC and probably view this issue with yellow tinted specs... surely its reasonable to propose that most (any) players in 'the modern era' only see any club as a vehicle to an end, be that professional fulfilment or financial remuneration. my point is that MV won't view the decison like we all would and he'll only be back if a) he's told to, or b) it ticks 'his' boxes. to pull on the golden jersey would be an honour, and be paid to do so too would be unecessary (the same for any fan of any club), but he has no emotional attachment to us, just like i dont for my job either. i hope he comes back tho! seeing him skip off after that goal at palarse last season, his chest bursting (i like to think with pride), the happyness and emotion he carried as he raced to our fans was tangible and maybe im wrong, maybe he does love it a WFC after all... COYH.
He'll need some convincing, that's for sure, but if we got him, signed Tozser, kept Deeney... bloody hell.
I don't think he loves Watford, and nor should we we expect any of our players to. The impression I got from that goal, and every goal he scored that season, is that he F**KING LOVES scoring goals.
I'd have Vydra if he didn't want to be here. He didn't want to be here last year and he did ok then! I think Vydra will want to play in a higher league, and will try to play in one, but his agent is hardly gonna say Vydra had a **** year this year and doesn't believe he can play in a top league anymore is he? I think Vydra may realise (if the pozzo's want him to be at Watford) it will be his only viable option where he will play regularly. They're not gonna let him set on a bench, whether thats at Udinese or a premiership team.
Not on twitter, but he was sent an email from a group of us on Friday, which he has received, and we await his response.
Fair enough. Did you tell him his article are "pieces of 5hit"? It's just that might not be conducive to a productive reply. Nor in all likelihood would asking a journalist to reveal his sources.
It is very difficult for many of us to understand why fans would want a player back that so clearly doesn't want to play for us. I can only speak from that position. I think it is clear that he did want to be here until around January 2013, when his head appeared to be turned, but when he decided, quite reasonably, that he wanted to play elsewhere, he then appeared to act quite unreasonably, according to his playing record and the account of his team captain, and to some extent in his own agent's words, quote “He’s mentally much stronger now (after his loan to WBA) and prepared to fight in order to become a real football star", which pretty much matches what Almunia said he needed to learn last season. Chovanec's words, expressly, are a confession that he was "mentally much weaker last year" and a plea for clubs not to be put off by his previous behavior, otherwise why say it? Why use those words? Yes he loves scoring goals as well, but he seems to struggle to score when his head is not right. He is not a player who will score goals regardless of his personal feelings, and that is one of the things that makes a great striker, like Mo Johnston. In a five year career, he has only consistently reached his potential in that three month period. There is no guarantee that he will consistently reach it again, and enough evidence to suggest that he likely will not achieve it WITH US. And yes, I know it is speculation, but it is not without grounding. If his head was right and he genuinely wanted to play for us again I'd have him back in a heart beat, as I have always said and as I imagine any Watford fan would agree. But nothing he has done since those glorious three months, not even the Leicester goals (he otherwise had a pretty poor game, and they were literally a reminder of the potential he was no longer reaching with us rather than a true return to form), have got anywhere near convincing me that he has put himself right. And simply, he really doesn't want to play for us.
