I,i,i,i,fwah, Fwah, Fwah It’s The Tories

Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by Moose, Sep 29, 2021.

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Who do you want as the next Tory party Leader

  1. Rishi Sunak

    7 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Lizz Truss

    4 vote(s)
    36.4%
  1. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Hoddly henuff when I was trying to find the title with a cedilla I stumbled across Sonic Youth's cover of it that was new to me:

     
  2. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Meanwhile, bring back Liz Truss! Don’t let the lefty economic establishment keep her down.

     
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  3. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Tu ne connais pas <<D ick Rivers>>?

     
  4. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    You don't necessarily need to read the whole article - the last 5 (short) paragraphs tells you all you need to know.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64536926

    In my view, if the company/trust named as "owners" of the property will not name the ultimate beneficial owner within 30 days, the Government should take possession, and if the information is not forthcoming after 90 days, it should be sold, with proceeds to the Treasury. Hopefully, the next government will take a more determined approach to this type of situation.........
     
  5. Happened before we joined the cursed common market,

     
  6. It happened the other way round too...




     
  7. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Il etait si folle de lui?
     
  8. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Surely the end is nigh? The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse couldn’t signal it any clearer.

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  9. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Just when you thought the bottom of the barrel had been reached they find yet new, lower levels.
     
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  10. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Thing is, the elevation of Lee Anderson and his pub bore brand of cOMmOn sEnSE will appeal to quite a lot of people, and it's their absolute enshrined right to vote for an idiot with bad ideas and (to put it mildly) dubious views.

    I'd just love if everyone emailed their MP lobbying them to argue for the removal of subsidised food at the House of Commons so that 30p Lee practices what he preaches and pays for his own meals instead of welching off the taxpayer every time he tucks into lunch at work.
     
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  11. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I only managed 10 mins of it so I shouldn't really comment but her replies to the key points fairly sum it up. The fantastic bloke behind the fantastic "Week in Tory" twitter thread (and responsible for the amazing "The Decade in Tory") really summed up her interview with the Speccy and her 4000 word stream of consciousness rant in the Torygraph:

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    I've always maintained that the best parodies always make you question whether it's actually not a parody:

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    https://twitter.com/SueHarrison123/status/1622516396440621058
     
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  12. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

  13. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    From Twitter, Liz returns.
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  14. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Very funny - but entirely predictable - how you nicely middle class lefties recoil in horror at the sight and sound of coal miner's son Lee Anderson! Bloody working class thicko gammon! What does he know about being poor?
     
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  15. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  16. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    He was UDM wasn't he?
     
  17. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I dunno
     
  18. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Rather patronising view of the working class that this expenses honking liar somehow represents everyone.
     
  19. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Is it a working class thing to think the state should kill criminals or that it’s perfectly reasonable that the poor should be told they should be able to make a meal for 30 pence? Kinda weird if so.

    It’s not a class thing. It’s a “people with dreadful ideas” thing.
     
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  20. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I've no idea if it's possible to make a nutritious meal for 30p because thankfully I've never had to try. As I'm sure you haven't. Perhaps Anderson has. And you'll probably find more support for the death penalty among the working class than you will in other sections of society
     
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  21. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Ian Hislop can be a bit of an ar5e sometimes but he is spot on about capital punishment here, and totally owns Priti Patel in the process:

     
  22. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I wonder if the Tories see offering a referendum on bringing back the death penalty as a possible vote winner?
     
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  23. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    It actually wouldn't surprise me. In some ways it is an easy sell. Who wouldn't want the most depraved murderers, pedophiles and rapists removed from this world?

    But, as Ian eloquently puts it, what about those that are wrongly convicted? Is even one unjustified state murder worth it? Would you be ok if it were you, or a loved one, who was executed "by mistake"?

    As you say though, a simplistic referendum could work as a vote winner. It did in 2016 so no doubt some in the Tory party might be tempted to try and play the same trick on the all too (regrettably) gullible public again.
     
  24. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    From Popbitch:
     
  25. Anderson got a chef in an industrial kitchen to batch cook 250 meals in one go which worked out at 30p a meal, then extrapolated that to say that a single mother who can't afford to put the heating on could do the same. Even then it was mostly potato. The bloke's a ******* ****.
     
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  26. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    On the first point, yes you do. Of course you do. You don’t need any imagination at all to know it’s a ridiculous claim - and one Anderson tried to prove in the most weasel way.

    On the second, have you got a source that shows it’s a class thing?
     
  27. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Yes I can. It would give them everything they want: a dog whistle for 'sovereignty'; a battle in the 'woke' wars; clear blue water between them and any opposition and raw meat that they can throw to their base. Also it would allow them the act on their current obsessi0n EConHR - I'm assuming we would be thrown out of it.
     
  28. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    It’s often been said that the British people would bring back hanging given half a chance and that’s why Parliament will never offer it up, but actual views are more marginal. According to YouGov polls, on a simple Y/N, 50% oppose and 40% are in favour, with 10% unable to answer even this simple question.

    Naturally, Conservative voters and old people, keen to live up to their stereotypes, are much keener on it. Views begin to shift if people are asked about the murder of a child or terrorism and then more are in favour.

    So less of a vote winner and more of a vote keeper. But I’d rule nothing out in, what will become, a desperate Tory bid to keep a hold on power. Double win for them is, I believe, that you cannot join the EU with the death penalty.

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...ns-dont-tend-support-death-penalty-until-you-
     
  29. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

  30. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Hopefully we can all agree the indecisive amongst us should be the first to be led to the gallows.
     
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  31. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Words fail me...

     
  32. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I would fully support it if it had an inclusion in the treason legislation to specifically include those in the political arena who had taken foreign money with the aim of destroying the stability of the UK.
     
  33. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Well that will cause Sunak precisely zero sleepless nights.
     
  34. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    So you’ve probably answered there why 10% are uncertain.

    It’s primarily about the ECHR, with EU consequences.
     

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