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Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by Moose, Sep 29, 2021.

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Who do you want as the next Tory party Leader

  1. Rishi Sunak

    7 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Lizz Truss

    4 vote(s)
    36.4%
  1. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Sunak as PM and Mordaunt as FS being lined up by back benchers to step in, with Hunt probably staying on. I’m just trying to imagine the headlines…

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  2. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

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  3. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    Jeremy Kunt is bringing back all new, bigger and badder, Austerity 2.0. Thank you Tories you bunch of self-serving arseholes.
     
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  4. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    But he at least sounds Prime Ministerial... that's pretty much the only positive I have for the ******.
     
  5. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Just heard David Gauke on the radio. He put it more diplomatically than this but he basically said that Truss should resign the government owe the public a general election but the party and the PM don’t have the decency to do either.
     
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  6. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    "Drinking the Kool-Aid" is an expression used to refer to a person who believes in a possibly doomed or dangerous idea because of perceived potential high rewards. The phrase typically carries a negative connotation.

    Trussenomics in a nutshell. The mass suicide of Tory credibility.
     
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  7. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Yes, but are you on the bus or off? They’re clearly a bunch of Merry Pranksters.
     
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  8. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    All Morbid could do, standing in for Fritty Liz sh1tt1ng herself on the toilet, is point out the pledges that Keir Starmer had made in his leadership contest and has since broke. Is that now their best line of defence? It was also amusing to see the ultra-dour Unionist MPs saying they weren't going to points score, because they have never done that before have they. Kunt is now praising the economic record of the Government. What a snake-oil salesman. LOL.
     
  9. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    The appearance of Truss in the chamber just now was bizarre.

    You could argue that she deserves everything that she gets but it looks to me like she has had, or is having, a complete mental breakdown.

    I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Whoever is advising her should tell her to resign and get the hell out of politics asap.
     
  10. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I think Reg is always on the bus(es).
     
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  11. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    The the amount of backslapping they’re engaging in after partially wiping up the massive **** they just took on the country’s figurative carpet is something to behold.
     
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  12. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Did the Tory whips not know Truss and Kwarteng had an affair. They know all the dirty secrets of their MPs. Is this why the clueless fool appointed him ? Both nasty pieces of work.
     
  13. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    There's precious little decency or honour in politics. It's a cesspit for the plutocrats to wallow in and order the world to their liking. The revolutions are coming as the climate crisis bites in future years. This is just the beginning.
     
  14. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Wonder why the Labour front bench arent calling it as it is? No mention of lobbyists, hedge funds, tanking the pound on purpose etc. None of them are stupid and they know what is going on, they are just waiting their turn to get their snouts in the trough.

    One party destroys the economy and the elite make bank, another party comes in and repairs the damage done and the elite make bank again. Every time a world leader speaks the stock markets or currency price moves, imagine how much cash you could make if you knew what was going to be said beforehand and you knew how what was said would effect the markets.
     
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  15. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    Just like the old joke that she liked him underneath as he always farked up. Boom Boom. What a grim thought.
     
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  16. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    Mark Drakeford puts the boot into the Welsh Tory Leader:

     
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  17. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Good for him.
     
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  18. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    Jesus Christ. "Tofu-eating wokerati” and a “Coalition of chaos". Hello. Earth calling Home Secretary, Earth calling Home Secretary. Are you Receiving? Is Anybody There?

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...u-eating-wokerati_uk_634efadce4b0e376dc116711

    Suella Braverman has faced ridicule from her opposite number after the home secretary sounded off about a “tofu-eating wokerati” and a “coalition of chaos”.

    The cabinet minister renewed her attacks on opponents of the Tory party – a habit that has made her a darling of the right – during a Commons debate on the Public Order Bill.

    It includes a new offence of obstructing major transport networks, interfering with key national infrastructure – such as railways, roads and printing presses – and new powers for police to stop and search people to seize items intended for so-called locking-on.

    Lock-on tactics have been repeatedly employed by groups such as Insulate Britain and Just Stop Oil, and include protesters gluing or otherwise attaching themselves to roads or other areas to cause disruption.

    Braverman went on the offensive in light of the Just Stop Oil protest that has seen the Dartford Crossing – the only way to cross the Thames east of London by road – blocked for the second day in a row.

    She accused opposition parties of being a “coalition of chaos”, adding: “It’s the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati, dare I say, the anti-growth coalition that we have to thank for the disruption that we are seeing on our roads today.”

    But Labour’s shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper branded Braverman’s words “astonishing”, adding: “The home secretary actually talked about a coalition of chaos, we can see it in front of us as we speak.”

    She continued that she understood government “concerns”.

    Cooper said: “When they face issues when they’ve got a selfish minority wreaking havoc, you’ve got someone resisting all attempts to remove them, causing serious disruption, disorder, chaos, with serious consequences for the public, for business, for politics and for financial markets.

    “But they’ve glued themselves under the desk. With honourable members opposite, we wish them luck with their attempts to extricate another failing Tory prime minister from Number 10.

    “But I suggest it isn’t a reason to change the law for everyone else.”

    Cooper was of course referring to Liz Truss and the turmoil caused by her mini-budget, which crashed the financial markets and saw the pound fall to an all-time low.

    The backlash led to two major u-turns by chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng, before he was eventually sacked and replaced by Jeremy Hunt, who has since torched the low-tax, free-markeeter economic plan Truss staked her leadership bid on.

    Truss now faces continued humiliation as a growing number of her MPs want the PM to quit, with one even comparing her premiership to a dumpster fire. She has vowed to fight on.
     
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  19. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    The surest sign that you're talking to a political lightweight is that they make liberal use of "woke" in an unironic fashion.
     
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  20. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  21. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    It’s a clip worth watching to see how unhinged the Home Sec is and how smart Yvette Cooper’s comeback is.
     
  22. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    As as aside I see 'Otto English' tweeted a response to Braverman:

    Screenshot 2022-10-19 at 08-39-30 Otto English on Twitter.png

    https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1582430646143619072

    The reason that struck me was I have just finished his book, Fake history : ten great lies and how they shaped the world, which is a great read most notably his opening chapter on Churchill: especially when read through the lens of De Pfeffel modelling himself in the mould of that "...Great Statesman..." [sic].
     
  23. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Or that they attack people by food they may possibly eat.

    Tofu is a particularly odd choice to get vexed about. A staple part of the Chinese and wider East Asian diet for 2000 years.

    She’s also been cracking on about football violence, but is yet to shame fans for their consumption of burgers, fish n’chips and pies.
     
  24. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    They complain about Cuba or other countries supressing peaceful protest against the government, but don't seem to have the least bit of shame about doing the same or worse to peaceful protestors here.

    Someone gluing themselves to a statue or sitting down in the road or whatever might be very inconvenient, but it's not violent by anyone's definition. It's not taking up arms in an attempt to overthrown the govt, is it? Nobody actually gets hurt.

    The legislation they've already brought in against the climate protestors reminds me of **** Dastardly and Muttley against the pigeon. It's anything they can think of. Nab him! Jab him! Tag him! Grab him! Catch that protestor n-o-o-o-w!



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  25. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    **fixed**
     
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  26. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I've grown to quite like Mark Drakeford. He doesn't start every sentence with 'Look' or 'So', or use glib catchphrases like 'I get it'. He just puts on his off-the-peg suit and comfortable shoes and gets on with being quietly efficient
     
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  27. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    You should always finish a designated course of antibiotics. Unbelievably crass and stupid thing to say for any person to say but for the Health Secretary to come out say this is beyond idiotic.

    Thérèse Coffey criticised for giving leftover antibiotics to a friend

    https://www.theguardian.com/society...d-for-giving-leftover-antibiotics-to-a-friend

    Doctors have rounded on the health secretary, Thérèse Coffey, after she admitted to sharing prescription medicines with others, actions the British Medical Association described as both dangerous and against the law.

    Coffey told civil servants in a meeting last month that she had given leftover antibiotics to a poorly friend, an admission that came as the discussion on how to alleviate pressures on struggling GPs moved on to public behaviour around antibiotics.


    Coffey’s comments provoked despair and disbelief among medical professionals who fear that members of the public might reach the false conclusion that it is safe and lawful to share unused medicines because the secretary of state had done so. One doctor accused Coffey of “monumental stupidity”.


    “Sharing prescribed medications, particularly antibiotics, is not only potentially dangerous, but also against the law, and we would ask our health secretary to instead support us in encouraging good and safe prescribing practices,” said another doctor, Richard Van Mellaerts at the BMA.

    The backlash came amid reports of plans to allow pharmacies to prescribe antibiotics without patients first being examined by their GP. The proposals have sparked concerns that antibiotics may be handed out more freely, leading to more drug-resistant bugs, and ultimately threatening patient health.

    “Antibiotics are a precious resource and should be prescribed only when absolutely necessary,” Van Mellaerts said. “Overusing antibiotics risks making them less effective, and makes some infections increasingly difficult to treat, which can then actually increase pressure on the health service as patients remain unwell.”

    While pharmacists play a vital role in supporting GPs, making it easier for others to prescribe antibiotics was not the way to reduce demand for GP appointments or the wider pressures doctors face, he added.

    Senior doctors have long warned that overuse of antibiotics drives the emergence of drug-resistant bugs and risks a return to the “dark ages of life-threatening surgery”. The more antibiotics are used, the more opportunities bacteria have to evolve resistance, eventually rendering the drugs useless.

    Dr Rachel Clarke, an NHS palliative care doctor who works in a hospital near Oxford, said it was “monumental stupidity” for Coffey to hand out antibiotics to others.


    “What she has admitted to doing is illegal, and either she thinks she can break the law with impunity, or she’s too ignorant to know that handing out NHS drugs to people who are not the intended recipient is a very serious matter,” Clarke said. “If you’ve got someone of that stature saying ‘well, I dish out antibiotics to my friends and family’, that’s practically encouraging the public to do the same. It’s so irresponsible.”

    Azeem Majeed, a professor of primary care and public health at Imperial College London, said plans for pharmacists to prescribe antibiotics were unclear, but were unlikely to involve making the drugs available over the counter. “It is likely to be protocol-driven prescribing for conditions such as uncomplicated urinary tract infections in women,” he said.

    “I think pharmacists are capable of undertaking this work, but I would rather see increased investment in core GP services to improve access for patients rather than the fragmentation of primary care delivery and the mixed range of interventions the government is introducing, without much success, to reduce pressures on NHS general practice,” he said.

    A spokesperson for Coffey said: “The secretary of state has explored a range of policy options to relieve pressure on GPs, including whether it is possible to allow greater prescribing by pharmacists – as happens in many places, including Scotland. These wide-ranging discussions included reflections on the importance of anti-microbial resistance and societal behaviours around antibiotics.”

    Based on data from Scotland, the Department of Health and Social Care believes that prescribing antibiotics for urinary tract infections alone could save £8.4m and 400,000 GP appointments a year. Beyond antibiotics, pharmacists could be relied upon to prescribe drugs for hypertension, high cholesterol, contraception and minor illnesses.

    A source close to Coffey said her comments were private remarks and a personal anecdote made in the course of a meeting about antibiotics. “She understands the importance of anti-microbial resistance, would encourage people not to share medicines and won’t do so again in the future,” they added.
     
  28. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    She joins a long list of Tory MPs, Patel, Williamson, Dorries etc. for whom the only possible explanation of them becoming a minister was for a bet.
     
  29. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Presumably someone leaked this?
     
  30. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    It came out of the fat old trout's mouth last month at a meeting as part of her '(Pain)Plan for Patients'.

    "Last month Ms Coffey, who is also the deputy prime minister, spoke at a meeting about how to ease pressure on GPs. She is reported to have said that she has in the past shared prescription antibiotics with friends and family."

    https://www.suffolklive.com/news/suffolk-news/suffolk-mp-thrse-coffey-under-7710251

    https://tribunemag.co.uk/2022/10/therese-coffey-plan-for-patients-nhs-health-service-gps
     
  31. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Excuse me but that’s a little uncalled for.





    Trout are beautiful and colourful creatures and don’t deserve to associated with that horrible Tory gomper.
     
  32. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Oh, so they want us to kill each other now, great...
     
  33. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Yes, but the original report stated it was said to an audience of civil servants rather than at a public event so presumably one of those civil servants leaked it to the Grauniad? Which is interesting in itself...
     
  34. https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1582729593244372992

    William Wragg will be voting for the government in the fracking debate; not because he wants to, but because the government has made it a 3 line whip, and if he loses the whip his letter of no confidence in Truss will be discarded.
     
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