Colonel Sir Tom - Your Circuit's Dead, There's Something Wrong...

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by Clive_ofthe_Kremlin, May 21, 2020.

  1. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Never had you as a Bee Gees devotee.
     
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  2. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Very tough for them both. Perhaps they should start a Gofundme page to cover this difficult period ?
     
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  4. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It's just a shame the head of this infamous crime family faked his own death to avoid justice.
     
  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Or was he about to spill the beans and so "had to go" ??
    Did Letby have an alibi ?
     
  6. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I wonder if he was under that fancy new spa all along?
     
  7. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    In the absence of BH today, this story has cheered me up.

    Stuff the Master Bates thing. ItV needs to make a Sopranos style Dramedy about these goons.
     
  8. westbridgfordhornet

    westbridgfordhornet First Year Pro

    Although I've come to this late it's still worth celebrating.

    Captain Sir Tom Moore's daughter Hannah Ingram-Moore and her husband Colin have been disqualified from being charity trustees by the Charity Commission. A statement from the family said they would not appeal against the decision but they "fundamentally disagree with the conclusions reached by the Charity Commission".

    Yeah of course they do. How often have we heard this sort of line from those caught with their hands in the till for white collar crime?

    Nice to see justice for the 'Hole in the Spa' gang especially when Capt Tom's Cabin took a terminal tumble in February! Too strong? Next up Michelle 'Moan' and fat Doug Barrow Boy perhaps followed by the very Reverend Vennells...? Please form an orderly queue.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    The justifiable hate being poured towards this family by those that enabled them in the first place.
     
  10. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Remind me of that bit in 1984 when it's revealed that the enemy all along was Eastasia and the hate swaps from Eurasia to Eastasia.
     
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  11. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    We should have a "Hate Week".
     
  12. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    The family of the NHS charities fundraiser Captain Sir Tom Moore personally benefited from the charity set up in his name through a series of lucrative deals worth more than £1m, the charities watchdog has ruled in a highly critical report.

    A Charity Commission inquiry concluded the late Captain Tom’s daughter Hannah Ingram-Moore and her husband, Colin Ingram-Moore, were culpable of “serious and repeated” instances of misconduct, mismanagement and failures of integrity.

    The Ingram-Moores, who set up the Captain Tom Foundation in 2020 to support good causes, repeatedly blurred their private interests with those of the charity while gaining “significant” personal benefit, the inquiry found.

    A spokesperson for the foundation said it was “pleased with the Charity Commission’s unequivocal findings regarding the Ingram-Moores’ misconduct”.

    The charity is “imploring the Ingram-Moores to rectify matters by returning the funds due to the foundation, so that they can be donated to well-deserving charities as intended by the late Captain Sir Tom Moore”, the spokesperson added.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...efited-from-charity-they-founded-report-finds
     
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  13. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I fugging love this.

    Old man walks in his garden, huge sums of money are raised, corrupt couple line their pockets.

    This has to be made into a film.
     
  15. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

  16. BeersThen

    BeersThen Reservist

    Capt Tom must be spinning / walking round his grave....
    (Sorry, think I did the same joke last year)
     
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  17. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Grifters
     
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  18. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    What disappointing behaviour, and sadly indicative of a world where greed and self-gain matter most for many people.

    The worry with cases like this is that it might put off some good people from donating to charities.

    Thank Goodness for the likes of Paddy McGuiness. Nearly £10 million raised now, and both he and those who donated are a symbol of the best of British, unlike this grubby couple back in the news today.
     
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  19. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    So she initially wanted a £150k (!) salary to over see a charity that ultimately only raised £1.5m and only ever gave out £370k, grifted £18 for herself for one public appearance she didn’t even make, wanted to cream off all the profits from a £1.5m 3 book deal and declined to give any of it to the charity, then of course built themselves a spa and claimed it would also be for ‘other old people’.

    Absolute scum, but it’s funny how being completely dishonest ***** has caught up with them in such spectacular fashion.
     
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  20. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    The Boss of Children in need has a take home pay of Over £150K.

    Big charity is big business. I choose to keep my donations local
     
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  21. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    And how much do children in need raise?

    Hannah Poncenby Smyth only oversaw £1.5m of donations, an absolute pittance on charitable terms, of that only £370k actually went to any good causes. The £39m raised prior managed itself and went directly to the NHS.
     
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  22. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    People will be wary to trust such causes again now I suspect but there will always be the gullible ones.
     
  23. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86qdq67dd5o , I previously did it from my phone so maybe it's why it screwed up.

    Some snippets:

    Mr Holdsworth said there were repeated instances of a "blurring of boundaries between private and charitable interests" and that Hannah and Colin Ingram-Moore benefitted significantly.

    The regulator’s findings showed that Club Nook, a private firm set up by the Ingram-Moores in April 2020, was paid an advance of £1.47m for Capt Sir Tom’s three books, including his best-selling autobiography, Tomorrow Will be a Good Day.
    The publisher Penguin, and promoter Carver PR, said the family gave repeated assurances that part of the advance would be used to set up and fund the foundation.

    However, to date the charity has not received any money from the publishing agreement.
    In 2022, the commission said the inquiry twice asked Mr and Mrs Ingram-Moore to "rectify matters by making a donation to charity" but "on both occasions they declined".

    Mrs Ingram-Moore was "very much involved in discussions around setting her salary" and said to trustee Stephen Jones that "her expectations were in the region of £150,000 per annum".

    She "purposely" removed the conflicts of interest clause from her employment contract with the charity, telling Mr Jones: "This is not a legal requirement... I will not be doing anything to conflict with all my roles but I cannot be in a position to request authority at every turn, my life would grind to a halt."
     
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  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    "It's what he would have wanted".
     
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  25. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    That last paragraph is absolutely outstanding stuff:

    She "purposely" removed the conflicts of interest clause from her employment contract with the charity, telling Mr Jones: "This is not a legal requirement... I will not be doing anything to conflict with all my roles but I cannot be in a position to request authority at every turn, my life would grind to a halt."
     
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  26. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I desperately need a new spa complex. Where do you live and how far away qualifies as "local"?
     
  27. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Her doing porridge?
     
  28. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    *Wood of
     
  29. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I don't object to someone who oversees a charity which helps manage millions of pounds, which does go to needy end users making that sort of money. £150k is not a large paycheck for a CEO and if you are running a large organisation, you do need some skills. I'm not boot licking the private sector CEOs who earn tens of millions off the backs of minimum wage workers, but I think 150k for managing a multi million pound charity isn't obscene on the face of it.
     
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  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I've got to say, I love this thread and each sordid detail of this grubby family's misdeeds.

    I never liked Captain Tom either. There, I said it. I hated his record with Michael Ball especially.
     
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  31. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I'm sure she's already thinking about Captain Tom branded breakfast options, yes.
     
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  32. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Yes. It’s all very noble to scoff at a charity CEO earning a big salary, but in many cases they oversee organisations that have turnovers in excess of the hundreds of millions. It’s just as challenging if not more challenging than running a comparable sized business, so if you expect them to pick from a pool of candidates who will do it for free then the outcome at the end be of it will be obvious.

    Of course, demanding a £150k salary to oversee a charity with a turnover of £1.5m is entirely preposterous, but that’s not normal, that’s just attempted fraud at best,
     
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  33. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I can genuinely say I never bought into it. I absolutely despise it when the media latch on to one thing and it blows up to the point I actively dislike it. At the time, there were many, many more noble efforts and impressive feats of fundraising that got zero recognition. This was just a classic case of everyone (including the public) jumping on the bandwagon and creating a disgusting snowball of self congratulation.

    I do appreciate people needed hope at that time, I just have discomfort form the fact it was the media who randomly picked it for us and shoved it down our throats.

    I also feel slightly uneasy about the fact that at a time when the NHS was on its knees, it took something like this blowing up for £39m to be donated to it, why were people holding out until that?
     
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  34. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Because people are ****s?
     
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  35. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Yes people aren't going to run things for free very often and sometimes it's how much they take out and what they do with the rest of the money raised that matters most.
     

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