Ben Manga

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Steve Leo Beleck, Aug 2, 2023.

  1. nfh

    nfh Academy Graduate

    What a complete shambles they just seem to be throwing money away everywhere, except on a DCM or CB
  2. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi Academy Graduate

    He's either crap at his job or he's quickly realised he has absolutely no say and Pozzo does what he wants. Either way I'm sure he's delighted with his decision to leave Germany and come to this hellhole.
  3. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    What difference does it make? If the club can't afford to pick up his salary we'll just sell or loan another player to Udinese again for an absurd fee to make up the difference.
  4. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Or as he was given a long-term contract, he’s thought he can’t do everything he wants to achieve in his first window.
  5. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    It’s just all the lies and deceit I’m sick of. They treat fans like we’re all idiots. Yes some are, and will lap up everything the club tells them, but a lot of people can see right through it. You can’t fool all the people all the time.
  6. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Well any fans who expect the clubs will be run 100% separately would be idiots.

    And the owners would also be idiots if they ran the clubs 100% separately without any sharing of resources and making use of the benefits of economies of scale etc. - but clearly they don't run the clubs 100% independent of each other.

    Even before Manga joined I thought it was generally accepted that the Pozzos had a scouting network which fed in to both clubs, for instance.
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  7. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi Academy Graduate

    I'd assume his aim is to keep Watford in the Championship though? It's hardly a stretch to say that we could easily go down this season once we get into the injuries and head coach changes.
  8. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    The problem is, you're not their target audience.

    The ones who never learn a thing. Who herald each new dawn as a real fresh start, despite a thousand failures already. The ones who actually believe it when the manager says 'I specifically asked for a load of crappy players or Mogi tat.'

    They're the target audience and will still be.
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  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Yes….and the other part of that famous quote is……you can fool some of the people all of the time……which I guess are their target audience. The Wendover’s of this world.
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  10. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Trust the process, most of us agreed it would take 3 or 4 windows for him to sort the squad out.
  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    ....or when he's sacked he'll get a nice pay-off.
  12. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi Academy Graduate

    I see Ismael has rejected the chance to sign 3 or 4 players this week. The Twitter argument now is that they must have been Bayat crap, not that Manga has served up Ismael some sh1te in the last week of the window. If Manga does control recruitment as he seems to think, why is he offering players to the head coach that are completely unsuitable?
  13. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I posted this on another thread, but is also worth highlighting here what was said by Ben Manga in the summer.
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  14. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    We have a significant amount of idiots in the fanbase. Perfect club for the likes of Pozzo and Duxbury.
  15. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    He's achieved one of the three objectives for the approach at least.
  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    All the players he recommended were probably

    The “wrong fit “
    “Too much money “
    “Didn’t want to come .
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  17. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    He can’t. We’re broke (allegedly) ;)
  18. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    He asked to leave Frankfurt so he could ‘take a new path’ and then joined us less than a month later, so we presumably approached him (rather than him applying for the role?) Would be bizarre but not surprising to do that, double his salary and then just not back him. He supposedly shaped Frankfurt’s scouting network over a period of years, so maybe that’s more his remit than purely buying players in the here and now. If he ends up leaving in the near future then it will be utter farce yet again from the club.
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2023
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  19. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    Gino Pozzo employing Ben Manga to be in charge of recruitment is probably the most pointless business decision made since Wernham Hogg's David Brent brought in Rowan to run a training day for his staff and then took control of it himself.

    Almost a shame Manga didn't enquire about Mason Greenwood, as Pozzo could have just said "I think there's been a rape up there" in order to 'win'.
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  20. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    "Get the Zeegalaar"

  21. dynamo380

    dynamo380 Reservist

    Didnt Manga say he has a five year plan recently? Whether he will a. be allowed to implement his plan (and not mislead in joining us) and b. actually end up being here for that long remains to be seen.
  22. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Sounds like one of our many managers - with great long term plans but don't last 6 months.
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  23. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    If we lose at Coventry tomorrow despite another good performance, I can assume Gino will be drafting his P45 and getting his little book out to see who is next in charge. I say this in jest, as he'll probably get ten games to get us going. But three losses in a row, and if we fail to score again...
  24. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Not quite, although the 'everything is going just fine' brigade have interpreted it as him saying that it'll take five years to get back into the Premier League:

    At Watford FC, I am the sports manager who pursues a clear goal: promotion to the Premier League. This is a challenge that we will tackle together as a team. We deliberately signed a five-year contract to achieve our goals. The Premier League is the biggest league in the world, it is a personal incentive to lead a club there as a sports manager.
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  25. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi Academy Graduate

    Failed to get rid of Kalu, a player the head coach doesn't want to use. Surely can't have been that difficult to shift him on loan somewhere.
  26. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Hard finding somewhere with the homely feel he's always valued but also a warden on site 24/7 and those orange pull cord alarms in every room.
  27. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    So two windows in and these are the players Manga has brought in (excluding Koné and Martins as those deals seemed teed up before he officially joined).


    Interesting that two of the signings most people would say are amongst the better ones are probably Bayat suggestions (Hoedt and Chakvetadze). The player we spent the most on has been sent to Udinese.

    Jury still out on Manga in my opinion.
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  28. Moosedog

    Moosedog Reservist

    Saudi transfer window remains open for another two weeks. We can dream
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  29. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck Academy Graduate

    Ultimately who is responsible for a failure to score given our lion's share of possession plus many attempts at goal ? . Managers have been moved on because we haven't won and the team looked shocking however we look a decent side without a cutting edge. Who should take the rap for an inadequate strike force?. In my view we could have Pep as boss, Klopp as his number 2 and Arteta and Poch as coaches but if the strikers can't hit a barn door then results won't change
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  30. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Waste of a wage from what I can see.
  31. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    How dare you! I have it on good authority that he spent extensive time scouting Matheus Martins - who was playing for some no-name club last season - and he looks like a great pick-up!
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  32. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Patience, there are still a few da-

    Erm, ah….
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  33. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    We can still pick up out of contract players, still time for Manga to pull an Nkoulou out of the bag.
  34. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Apparently he is out of contract again !
  35. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    If we sign him up now he’ll be ready to play by November, and we’ll get at least a game out of him until before fireworks night.

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