For all our (valid) criticisms of Xisco...read this. This is why an unqualified, inexperienced manager was always ridiculous. Dealing with this whopping thunderc*nt and his ego would be wearing for even Alex Ferguson...
The crazy thing is, even though Watford are in complete turmoil, we are still 5th in the league, 8 points clear of 7th. Ok, if games in hand are won we could be 8 points from the top two, but it just goes to show, even though we've been coached so poorly we are still in a good position to push for the top two or at the very least we should consolidate the playoffs. We need someone who is of a much higher calibre than Ivic and certainly Munoz. It's an insult to the league to expect someone who has no experience or official qualifications (to manage in the Premier League) to get us promoted. A mind numbingly dumb decision. I'd have no problem having Munoz on the coaching staff or as the assistant, but the main man is ridiculous. If money is tight (caused by their own bad past decisions) then the Pozzo's have to subsidize the club at this point and hire a coach of some quality. This is their only option now, as their pitiful efforts in the transfer market has made the task of promotion a slim one. But there's still a chance, but not with Munoz at the helm. Nice guy etc, but not going to get us promoted.
If we want to get promoted we should get Joka back, pay Deeney to play for Brum, hire Scott out as an online clown for kids cebrating their birthdays at home, send Gino back to Udine and let his dad take care of business.
Just think where we would be if we had the ability to even look like scoring in an away game. I think that is the frustration - we have these highly paid expensive attackers producing very little . I mean single figures for away goals is shocking by anyone’s standards!
Gino would have form given how owners on the continent have a penchant for interfering in team selection. Using Floppo and Cristian to do their bidding. The current model is so unfit for purpose. If you want to win games you play the best eleven you have and in a formation that suits them.
They all fully realise he is clueless and under-qualified, so simply ignore whatever he says. And they probably have no confidence in the hierarchy making another worthwhile appointment anyway.
Sure, but neither offences are anywhere near custodial sentences, at the time I think they were worth a £200 fine? Not really comparable even repeated more than once.
Feels like the fact that this has been effectively confirmed has been lost in the wash a bit, though maybe that's just because I haven't been over on the safe
I will let you know. I submitted my resume yesterday. Duxbury very impressed that I’ve played FIFA since 1994 til present, and FM from 96 (when it was known as championship manager) til 2011. My success on both platforms, taking Watford to multiple champions league finals and winning, aswell as winning the Premier League countless times was music to his ears. He couldn’t believe my ability to scout and find the next Messi by simply googling FM/FIFA wonderkids, signing them on the cheap then selling them for huge profits but a few seasons later. When I asked him about coaching badges he replied “what’s that?” I informed him of what they are, whilst sharing I have my FA level 1 talent identification certificate and my FA Playmaker coaching certificate. He couldn’t believe that someone with a football coaching certificate actually applied for the job. I tried to tell him, that I really need my UEFA Pro License, he said “oh, that’s what you mean by coaching badges, yeah we normally just print those out.” So I have an interview over Zoom this upcoming week.
There's no issue in taking advice from the captain, but in this situation it appears undermining to the coach's authority. Do you think Pearson would have taken advise from Deeney? Maybe, but it certainly wouldn't be viewed as Deeney being influential over the manager.
Agreed, but the psychological impact upon the club's supporters of 2 successive Covid breaches needs factoring in. The fact that the size of the fine is only £200 is not that relevant in that context. It could also be argued that Gray's actions had the potential to cause serious harm, even death, to many more people than Deeney's act of violence.
That coupled with the fact that for some reason he was allowed to leave the stadium in his own car, separately from the rest of the team, tells us everything we need to know really. Moosegasm's position looks less extreme by the day (). That being said, the article does contain noted criticism of Deeney's role and effort, and given that it basically amounts to a briefing document from the club, perhaps they are finally, pathetically trying to lay a glove on the monster they have cultivated these past ten years. We shall see, eh. (Almost certainly not)
That is a very good point as a precedent has been set and victimisation could be claimed If football has to adhere to the same employment laws as mere mortals then breaking lockdown rules can result in the termination of an employee's contract if for example their conduct means that it is no longer safe for them to attend work which in turn affects their ability to work. However as Burnsy has correctly pointed out everyone has to be treated equally
So basically that little fake scenario I posted on here yesterday was in fact true and my tweet about Leventhal already being debriefed was also true. That’s how easy it is to look ITK when it comes to watford. We’re so predictable.
Here's an interesting precedent from Derby and Richard Keogh. Keogh had his contract terminated after suffering a severe injury when in a car accident on a drunken binge with his teammates Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett. One of the latter two was the drunk driver. Lawrence and Bennett (who generally are younger, better, less injury prone players and lower earners) received small fines despite being the greater offenders. Keogh just won his employment tribunal and is set for a 2m payout: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...hard-Keogh-2million-won-appeal-dismissal.html.
Gino has dug a massive hole for himself by chopping and changing the manager. No one of quality will want the role, unless they are offered a longish contract and are paid over the odds - that will require a completely different attitude to coaches than previously; there is no evidence of a change of approach despite the club saying they would learn from mistakes in the summer. Whilst it is likely that Xisco isn’t the answer, each change makes it more difficult for the next manager to get the buy-in from the players.
Going back a few years, when we appointed Boothroyd, I think one of the smartest things he did was to appoint the hugely experienced Keith Burkenshaw as his number two. Almost like a father figure as he learnt the ropes of management. Then came another managerial novice in the shape of Rodgers, and he followed that trend by bringing in Lampard Senior. To a lesser degree, Pearson brought Shakespeare with him, Garcia appointed McKinlay (of course we will never know how well that would have worked but I don’t think you can argue that potentially the Scot wasn’t a bad number two to have with all his experience) and Malkay had Dyche. I’m not implying that all foreign unknowns we appoint as assistants must therefore be useless, but I look at Xisco and think how much he could have benefitted from an older very experienced head alongside him. That way he wouldn’t need to turn to the captain for advice.
Taylor had Bertie Mee. Any boss/manager knows you are only as good as the people you appoint. Makes Gino look a right **** at present. Penguin.
Deeney knows if we try and play on the floor at pace with movement he can’t do it. He’s not stupid hence the statement and the Munoz is leaning on him for help does not bode well
I can only imagine the look on Zinckernagel's face when Troy dedicates a whole training session to the defenders hoofing the ball up to him.
Hoofing might work with Percia, but Deeney rarely wins any headers so I fail to see what use it would be.
To be fair, the only player in our entire squad with a decent first touch is Kiko. The rest couldn’t trap a dead rat. No point in passing the ball around as it involves controlling the ball first, which we cannot do.
A little harsh, but I know what you mean. I would say Pedro has a good first touch too, for instance, but right now I would say Kiko is the most accomplished all-round footballer at the club.
I rate Perica as a footballer, and he's actually a danger to the opposition, give him a run and I think he'll nab us a few goals, but I don't think he's suited to being a target man, he definitely doesn't punch his weight physically
There are a few apart from Perica who could do with being given a sustained run in the team for various reasons, but I don’t see it happening at the moment. Pedro to gain some confidence and consistency without expecting to be dropped, Zinckernagel to get up to speed in a new league and Hughes to actually influence the game from midfield on a regular basis. For any of these to do anything in a few minutes from the bench relies almost entirely on luck rather than by design.
