Woolwich V Watford Fc - 26/07/2020

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Smudger, Jul 22, 2020.

  1. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    What's our record on last day of the season achievement?

    Successes:-
    Won League 1/Division 2 at Fulham
    Sneaked into the Playoffs with a Tommy Smith goal under Boothroyd

    Failures:-
    Bottled promotion to the PL under Zola
    Relegated from Championship/Division 1 against Leicester
    Bottled the Championship title against Sheff Weds
     
  2. Come On Watford

    Come On Watford Academy Graduate

    I agree with those who say drop Deeney. The trouble is he's mostly so poor with the ball at his feet and he fails to keep up with the game. I suppose he's valued for his defensive work and scrapping for headers etc. He also has the odd decent game, so I imagine he gets picked in hope. It's not a good enough reason to pick someone. But for this last crucial game will a caretaker coach have the courage to change things? I don't think so somehow.
     
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  3. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    I don't want this game. I know exactly how it will go, especially with the squad getting their excuses in early - "confidence is crazy low".

    We've been an absolute circus this season and if we somehow manage to stay up (we won't) it will feel completely hollow.

    As a side, the phrase "without fans, football is nothing" is banded around a lot, but it's really hit home with lockdown. Without the togetherness, shared vision and "banter" (sorry, can't think of a better word) or being in the crowd, this season since lockdown has been like watching a dog laying a cable in the park.
     
  4. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    We all know how it's going to go and it's going to hurt.

    Shame most of the squad won't have that same hurt.
     
  5. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Is anyone planning not to watch it? Deep Impact is on BBC Two at 4.10 on Sunday. I think there's more suspense in that film than the outcome of Arsenal v Watford.
     
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  6. Come On Watford

    Come On Watford Academy Graduate

     
  7. Doyleyftw

    Doyleyftw Academy Graduate

    It's a new rule for this season, I believe. Only points accumulated in the head-to-head between the two sides are taken into account, then it goes to away goals in the H2H:

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  8. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    As much as I’m saying I’d kind of like being in the championship- which I think I would as it goes for a season or two - it’s going to feel awful on Sunday (my birthday by the way!) when we get relegated.

    Just read Stacks interview, they are going to spend the week working on the best plan for the game. My guess is Troy up top alone with ten others pretty much defending and booting it long. Depressed already thinking about it.

    But there’s still a small, tiny, little bit of hope. We could by some miracle be 0-0 come the time Troy’s knee packs up. We need a goal asVilla aren’t winning and they look to the bench and think oh well just chuck them on.

    On cones Welbeck and Pedro, maybe even Pussetto and Quina. Speed and desire if nothing else. A galvanised team seeing us push on start believing and then out of no-where someone pops up to be a hero - writing their name in history.

    It could happen, you never know.
     
  9. Come On Watford

    Come On Watford Academy Graduate

    I don't understand this 'oversharing' from Foster - it reads as a bit pathetic. Unless he thinks it's a way of disarming Arsenal so they'll feel they just need to turn up.
    I don't think it'll work.
    Sorry, a reply to Robert Peel.
     
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  10. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    Unfortunately Arsenal won't have forgotten Deeney's "cojones" remark against them. They will want to ram those words up his arse.
     
  11. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    I think Villa shown us how to beat Arsenal sit in and let them have the ball and then look to counter them. They had zero creativity against the team with the second worst defence in the league. We need pace for this though so we need to start Welbeck. Hopefully we will be practising set pieces all week because Arsenal are atrocious at defending them
    and have the worst defensive record in the league from set plays.

    We are in a worse position than last week but it's not over yet.
     
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  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    It could happen, yes, in the same way that we could have got a point vs Citeh while Arsenal hammered AV......
     
  13. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Hopefully Deeney and his cojones will be on the bench
     
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  14. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Forum points for someone who wants to combine the terms ‘Deep Impact’ and ‘Troy Deeney’.
     
  15. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    To be fair you wouldn’t want them to be in different places.

    Unless you are his ex missus.
     
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  16. You think Arsenal players spend a second thinking about us?
     
  17. I won a lot of money vs Man city on goal diff, I'll win a lot of money in this game due to goal diff where arsenal are incredibly only evens just to win, 12/5 to win -1, 6/1 to win -2 and 16/1 to win -3.

    The bookies still don't seem to realise how unbelievably awful we are.
     
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  18. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Know you this dog?
    Can he play at Highbury/The Emirates/The Cherry Tree?
     
  19. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I honestly don’t think they’ll give a monkeys about that, in the same way if it was our team unfortunately I don’t think they would either. Someone said we’re a poor mans Arsenal and I tend to agree, a comment like that from a few years ago doesn’t do anything to motivate a team like Arsenal.
     
  20. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    If the manager wants to motivate his team the old chestnut of pinning up newspaper cuttings on the wall
    of disparaging remarks by an opposing player is still probably used to this day .
     
  21. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Wilf Zaha gets dogs abuse and assaulted by Capoue everytime we play Palarse.
    Something to do with falling over in penalty areas .
    Yes players and fans do care
     
  22. Its probably not. Today’s footballers wouldn’t know what a newspaper is.
     
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  23. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    There is small hope we can stay up. See my post on page 85 of the 'Relegation Picks' thread. :)
     
  24. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member


    You have to put your selfishness to one side because I don't let my own ego be bigger than the team.

    Fine words you UFB. Cojones is going over the top into the face of certain death. Sticking to your post doing your duty while knowing certain death awaits. Cojones is knowing one tiny mistake may result in your patient dying or suffering serious consequence or scraping together the funds so your children can enjoy some of the things others take for granted.

    Not kicking a bag of air between two posts. As a professional sportsman you should be able to do it with your eyes closed. Captain Courageous indeed. Never a Blissett or Helguson.
     
  25. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky First Year Pro

    Captain cojones might get a few reminders in the day's to come about his true but unwise comments about Arsenal.

    Perhaps he and the rest of the squad could try looking for theirs instead, it ain't over but the fat lady is well and truly primed and ready to sing.
     
  26. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    That’s a personal rivalry between Capoue and Zaha, but more crucially the fans won’t be there on Sunday.
     
  27. Are they doing drug tests at games these days? A bit of Charlie might give these timid clowns the impetus to give it a go.
     
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  28. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Hmm..A bit strong, perhaps.
    The thing about the 'cojones' comment was that it was, at that time, bang on correct. It is why we managed to beat them that day. If he was wearing a pundit's hat it would have been what I would have wanted him to say - but the done thing amongst pro footballers is to not comment on the oppositions' shortcomings. So he shouldn't have said it. And you bet the next-door-neighbours took note of it.
    Ironically, Deeny's team collectively have lacked cojones this season.
    I do wonder if he used that word because he had only just heard it being used by his Spanish-speaking team-mates.
     
  29. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Of course but my point was that people do care .

    The attempted murder of Knockaert by Britos , who wasn't even at the
    club when that incident happened, another example or maybe just a coincidence.
    But I'd wager he had heard some people talking about Knockaert and thought he'd leave
    something on him .
     
  30. Crezzy95

    Crezzy95 First Year Pro

    You just know at some stage on Sunday we'll be in pole position to stay up only for it to go t*** up.
     
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  31. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    I just make one request;

    That Arsenal have 0 shots on target just like they did against Villa. This is the only way to make the game fair.
     
  32. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    A bit rapey m8
     
  33. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    We'd still concede. Probably a Deeney o.g.
     
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  34. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    WHU 0 AV 0 finishes
    Arsenal 1 WFC 0 deep in injury time. Penalty awarded by VAR to us for next to nothing. Deeney's central powerblast knocks Martinez unconscious but the ball rebounds up the pitch and arsenal score a second. Two further goals see it finish 4-0.
     
  35. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Very plausible. It's never boring lol
     

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