Watford Fc 0-1 Crystal Palace - Play Off Final - 27/5/2013

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by domthehornet, May 13, 2013.

  1. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    So it's come down to this! On Bank Holiday Monday Gianfranco Zola's Watford FC make the short trip to the home of English football, Wembley, to take on Ian Holloway's Crystal Palace FC in the NPower Championship Final that sees the winner promoted to the Premier League and the loser resigned to another season in the second tier. Either way both teams will be up for it and it should be a cracking game and day out.

    When the teams met in the League, Watford came out as the better team with them winning four points out of six available including a rare 3-2 win at Selhurst Park on the opening day of the season. That game saw Owen Garvan grab two goals for Palace (including a penalty after John Eustace brought down Wilfred Zaha with a rash challenge) either side of a Martin Taylor goal. But the game really came alive in the final ten minutes when Almen Abdi struck a sweet 25 yard drive past the ailing Speroni before Matej Vydra scored a beautiful curling shot into the top left hand corner of the goal in the dying moments of the game. You could sense it was the start of something special.

    The home game wasn't exactly the best of games from a Watford stand point with them going two nil up in the first half hour with plenty of wasted chances before they capitulated allowing Palace back into the game. The final score was a 2-2 draw. The goals came from Almen Abdi and Nathaniel Chalobah for Watford and Craig Rammage and Kevin 'Bloody' Phillips for Palace. Watford's poor second half was attributed to the fact that the game was two days after an international break as well as the introduction of Johnnie Williams.

    Let's have a look at our opponent's first;​

    Crystal Palace:​

    Manager: Ian Holloway




    There will be a bit of tension and hostility from the Watford fans towards Ian 'Why can't I have more loans' Holloway after his pre match debacle at Vicarage Road the last time the two teams faced each other, which involved a marker pen, a programme and endless streams of gibberish. Oddly so far he has been quiet but it is only a day after Palace's victory over bitter rivals Brighton in the Play Off semi finals.

    Holloway took over Crystal Palace on November 3rd after club legend Dougie Freedman departed for the vacant Bolton job. When Freedman left Palace, they were top of the league by a point and looking in fine form for automatic promotion but it appeared that they peaked at the wrong time before they started to slowly fall out of the running. Holloway eventually guided Palace to a fifth place finish (five points below Watford for those wondering.)

    Whilst in charge of Palace Holloway's win percentage is 33.3% (12 wins out of 36 games, with 14 draws and ten defeats). Holloway has a decent record in the Play Off's after getting Blackpool promoted in 2010 and getting to the final with Blackpool last season before being beaten by West Ham. Hopefully for our sake it will be a repeat of last season! ​

    Crystal Palace Team News:​

    Palace will almost certainly be without top scorer Glenn Murray who suffered a nasty knee injury in the semi final first leg at Selhurst Park. It is likely that Aaron Wilbraham will deputise for the stricken star. One of the first name's on Palace's team sheet is Wilfred Zaha who is set to play his last game for the club that nurtured him and gave him a chance in football. The £15 million on loan (boo nasty nasty loans) Manchester United winger, has been an important lynchpin in Palace's season and has caused defenders problems all season. With eight goals in 49 appearances this season he is Palace's second top scorer and will definately want to go out with a bang. Youngster Johnnie Williams and Yannick Bolasie will both be vying for a starting place as the final to compliment Zaha on the other wing. Both players are direct and have bags of skill and will cause any defence problems, ours will be no exception.

    The midfield will more than likely be Miles Jedinak, Kagisho Dikgacoi and possibly Stephen Dobbie who will be spraying balls about left, right and centre. In order for us to succeed we will need to win the midfield battle, which will be tougher than normal. These three will be running around snapping at our heels giving us no time on the ball. Stalwart 'keeper Julian Speroni will almost certainly be in goal providing confidence from the back. One of Speroni's faults are that he isn't the best with shots outside the area, something which we are fairly good at (with 44 goals scored from outside the area this season).

    The players to look out for will be Zaha, Bolasie, Dobbie and Williams, these four players have the ability to turn games around in seconds. In order for us to go through we will need to ensure that we stop these players getting on the ball. ​

    Opposition Fans Forum: http://www.cpfc.org/forums/

    Watford

    Manager: Gianfranco Zola​

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    How can you not love the bloke! With an infectious smile and a buoyant attitude it seems very difficult to dislike Zola. He hasn't made the best choices at times this season but when he gets it right, by God he gets it right. The Sardinian may only be five foot three but in most fans eyes he is a giant. After taking over in the summer when the Pozzo's came in, Zola had a tough task in both replacing fans favourite Sean Dyche and moulding a team out of all the new inexperienced players coming in. After a stumbling start of only 13 points out of the first 13 games Watford eventually clicked with a very important 2-1 win over promotion challenging Leicester City at Vicarage Road. That victory changed the course of Watford's season with the players eventually finding their feet and pushing on. Since then we have been laughing, yes we did miss out on automatic promotion in a tense last day fiasco (thanks to a mixture of bad luck, bad refereeing and dirty underhanded play from that lovely and soft team that is Leeds United). But without those blips we wouldn';t have witnessed the amazing second leg that was the 3-1 victory over Leicester at Vicarage Road.

    What a game that was, reported by the media as one of the most exciting games in recent history of English football thanks to THAT missed penalty after THAT dive. For those who have forgotten what it looks like, here you go:

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    And we can't forget about that Vydra goal. Shame the goal of the season had already been voted as we had a definite contender here.

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    Watford Team News:​

    More to follow. What a dilemma for Zola to have in regards to partnering Troy Deeney at Wembley! Who do you choose, the resurgent Matej Vydra or the tricksy Fernando Forestieri. When we went 4-3-3 with all three playing we looked quite simply breathlessly good, some of the play was unbelievable. We may need Forestieri's creativity as well as Vydra's pace. It is a gamble playing all three as we have little else on the bench (no offence Geijo). We will need a strong backline to soak up the pressure, Ekstrand is a must as is Doyley to counter the pace of Zaha and Bolasie. It may be a good idea to put Fitz Hall in as centre half whilst pushing Cassetti out to his familiar role of RWB with Anya on the other flank. Anya's pace will help counter Zaha and Bolasie and hopefully neutralise their threat. Jonathon Hogg is likely to come in for Cristian Battochio to help break up Palace attacks as well as link up play as best as he can.

    By the looks of it Zola has no new injury concerns.

    Predicted Line Ups:

    Watford:

    Almunia
    Anya
    Cassetti
    Ekstrand
    Doyley
    Pudil
    Hogg
    Chalobah
    Abdi
    Deeney
    Vydra

    Subs: Bond, Briggs, Battochio, Forestieri, Geijo, Eustace, Hall

    Crystal Palace:

    Speroni
    Ward
    Gabbidon
    Moxey
    Delaney
    Dikgacoi
    Jedinak
    Zaha
    Dobbie
    Bolasie
    Wilbraham

    Subs: Price, Ramage, Richards, Williams, O'Keefe, Moritz, Phillips.

    Officials: TBA

    Score Prediction: If we get the first goal we will win, if not Palace will make us work for the game. I'm plumping for a 3-2 Watford clinching us promotion. We CAN do this!

    To all those travelling to Wembley have a safe journey.

    Come On You 'Orns!
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2013
  2. Daft Row

    Daft Row Reservist

    Hogg to score winner.
     
  3. WFCChris234

    WFCChris234 Academy Graduate

    Be prepared for 2 weeks of Holloway whinging about our loans.
     
  4. Legends

    Legends Reservist

    Is this not the final we all wanted to see? Yesssssss c'mon you Orns.. right buzzing for this..
     
  5. ahornet

    ahornet Reservist

    My team would be:
    -------------------Almunia-------------------
    ---------Doyley---Ekstrand---Cassetti--------
    -Anya---------------------------------Pudil--
    -------------Battochio--Chalobah------------
    ---------------------Abdi--------------------
    -----------------Deeney---------------------
    ---------------------Vydra------------------
    Subs:Hogg, Eustace, Forestieri, Briggs, Hall, Bond, Geijo

    Three changes for us from when we played them at home: Ekstrand for Hall, Anya for Hoban and Battochio for Hogg.
     
  6. bracknellhornet

    bracknellhornet Reservist

    More importantly no international games 2 days before.
     
  7. JRW1979

    JRW1979 Reservist

    If Hall is fit he should move to the back and stick cassetti wing back
     
  8. hollywood

    hollywood 1881/singing section organiser

    The tale of the LOAN tape.
     
  9. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    Probably my choice too but tempted to have Hall in instead of Doyley and move Cassetti to RWB.
     
  10. dogjaw

    dogjaw Academy Graduate

    wall fan here ,just make sure you beat those *****s in the final
     
  11. CarlosKickaballs

    CarlosKickaballs Forum Picarso

    If not can your lot wait for them at the station?
     
  12. Doyley slows the play down to much and then ends up lumping it. Ekstrand-Hall-Cassetti back 3 for me. Doyley on the bench as back up.

    Otherwise agree.
     
  13. NortholtHorn

    NortholtHorn Reservist

    Just trod in dog **** and that's supposed to be a sign of good luck so fingers crossed ;)
     
  14. dogjaw

    dogjaw Academy Graduate

    Could be arranged
     
  15. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    I do too - bring Doyley on if we are winning comfortably as I think this could possibly be his last game for us.
     
  16. ahornet

    ahornet Reservist

    Have to be honest I really liked Hall at the start of the season but since his injury he has had to come off so many times and he looked like he lacked match fitness at the end of the Leicester 1st leg. Therefore I feel it would be too much of a risk for this game. If we were to leave Doyley out I would rather a back 3 of Briggs, Ekstrand and Cassetti as slated as I will get for that.
     
  17. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Biggest game of the season IMO.
     
  18. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Would start Briggs too with a view to pulling him off at half time depending on which Briggs turns up.
     
  19. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team

    Who at CB then and what happens to Anya? You can't have two cassettis!
    I would start with hall doyley ekstrand with cassetti RWB and bring on anya against tired legs.

    Or play Anya to tire the legs out from teh go. Tough choice.
     
  20. bashlsdir

    bashlsdir Academy Graduate

    Brighton supporter here. Please put Palace in their place. Don't make the same mistake we did last night.
     
  21. Oh dear. I was looking forward to 2 weeks of intellectual jousting with Caskey.















    Not.
     
  22. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I think it's to risky to start with Hall!!!

    We all know it takes a player two or three games to get back up to speed after a long lay off, so he is bound to be rusty even if he is technically fit, so it's the bench for him IMO!!!
     
  23. Shakespearo

    Shakespearo Reservist

    I think it's only good luck if you are a burglar and it is your own faeces, not a dog's.
     
  24. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Still can't believe that people would drop Hogg. Apart from 3 or 4 games when he came back from injury he has been as consistent as anyone this year.

    There can be no doubt that Chalboah and Abdi play better with Hogg in the side
     
  25. bhaabc

    bhaabc Academy Graduate

    Please get one over on that **** Holloway after our shambolic performance last night :dismay:.

    In all seriousness though, best of luck. Think you deserve it over the course of the season but the playoffs don't always work like that.
     
  26. Kismet110

    Kismet110 Reservist

    Not sure about that, Sunday Hogg only came on in the 78th minute and up until then our midfield were doing pretty well.

    Also I read somewhere that we have never lost a game when AA, NC and CB have started? Surely no coincidence.

    I like Hogg and I think GFZ will start with him but with CB in the middle we are more creative.
     
  27. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Quick question, are smoke bombs illegal? Not just in the stadium but like generally?
     
  28. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    If you want to see the game don't even try to get one in.
     
  29. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Thought so. What's the law regarding them outside though?
     
  30. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Just not even worth the risk and discussing it here, the most popular Watford forum, is not a good idea.
     
  31. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Updated Opening post.
     
  32. ChrisG

    ChrisG Squad Player

    Right, first things first. This is not about Holloway. Lets try and leave the insufferable **** out of this.

    I think we have to start with the same team as the 2nd leg playoff, maybe switching Battochio for Hogg, for this. We will need to be stronger in midfield and whilst Battochio is great, Hogg will add bite and will win us the ball. I'm not going to say I feel massively confident about the result but other than the 2nd half at Vicarage Road they didn't offer much against us. We need to really up our vocal support too, Palace will be loud.

    Looking forward to the build up over the next two weeks.
     
  33. Prentice

    Prentice Administrator

    I wouldn't want Briggs anywhere near this, we need players to be committed and on their game for every waking second, giving 110%, Briggs unfortunately has had too many moments where he's been caught ball watching and his attacker has just ghosted past him, Burnley at home in the last few seconds, and Knockaert against Leicester before Cassetti brutally destroyed him with a gust of wind.

    I'd be tempted to play Pudil, or even Anya at LWB and Cassetti at RWB if Hall is fit and can manage the entire game, but then that's the whole idea of a two week break before the final, to help teams get their best squads available.

    Almunia
    Doyley Hall Ekstrand
    Cassetti.....................................Anya
    Battocchio Chalobah
    Abdi
    Deeney Vydra​

    Tough choice between Hoggy and Battocchio, I wouldn't mind either way which one of those plays. If Hall isn't fit enough then Cassetti in at LCB, Ekstrand at CB, Anya at RWB and Pudil on at LWB.
     
  34. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Also, Palace were organised last night. They didn't exactly look amazing and it was only a decent cross and a decent turn that led to the goals.

    Our second half performance was amazing against Leicester. It was a credit to them that they survived as long as they did.

    Palace cannot live with us. Nullify their one big threat and victory is ours.
     
  35. Prentice

    Prentice Administrator

    It worries me that a lot of Watford fans (this isn't a direct response to GoingDown's post) think we've already won this.
     

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