Jan 2020 transfer window

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by RMT79, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Jarrod Bowen looks like he is going to Palace (who are also signing Nathan Ferguson it seems). Exciting signings for them.
     
  2. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Good young players as well.

    Pozzo model etc.
     
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  3. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    F
    For £16m. Never seen the lad but based on all the hype I assumed he’d cost more.
     
  4. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    But it's really hard to do business in January according to the apologists.

    When it's us and you have clowns running the show. Not for anyone else it seems.

    But let's hope the club keep leaking to their mouthpiece Leventhal that we are 'interested' in other people's reserves. The vast majority will clap along merrily.
     
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  5. reids

    reids First Team

    Came here to say something similar, pretty sure they've got one of the oldest squads in the league (along with us), so getting some quality in which also reduces the age of the squad is good business by them.

    His contract is up in the summer which is why the fee is "low".
     
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  6. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

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    GoingDown "The Stability"

  8. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    As you say, the apologist attitude of some of our fans must play a huge role. I've just been told on Twitter that "Mapps has been quality!".

    It's laughable that so many of our fans refuse to take off their rose tinted glasses just because players are "one of our own" or "a true professional". Neither of those things make them a genuine Premier League footballer and Mariappa is a prime example of that. It's laughable that he is still playing games for us, even more so when they're out of his natural position.

    Pressure from the fanbase does make a difference. Unfortunately for us we have a fanbase of which the majorities attitude is along the lines of "omg mappz is a legend! One of our own!", making it even easier for Pozzo to keep his wallet closed.
     
  9. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I'm not convinced by Bowen from what I've seen of him, seems a bit too much of a clogger to have that high a ceiling.

    Palace are in a position where they can afford to take a punt on a player of his profile, but I don't expect him to shine for them.
     
  10. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    But whoscored has him at 7.35 and the 4th best player in the Championship?
     
  11. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Jarrod Bowen does seem to fit the exact type of player Watford could do with. Hugely disappointing to see him close to Palace and us not even rumoured to be close.

    May well go on to be a flop but with his record, he's as close to a "safe" gamble as you could take from The Championship.
     
  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Right on cue, Watford have released an article on the website where Mariappa says he’s prepared to play anywhere along the back line, he just wants to be on the pitch.

    Prepare for disappointment tomorrow swiftly followed by a new deal for our Adrian.
     
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  13. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    RousyScout has malfunctioned one day after we put him into production. :(
     
  14. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    As mentioned above, I'm being told Mariappa is quality and doesn't deserve any criticism on Twitter, and apparently "most of our fans would agree".

    Most of our fans are morons, then.
     
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  15. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    I’m 100% convinced the club monitor these forums and run the official site with no intentions beyond trolling us.
     
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  16. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    ;)

    The main flaw in the whoscored ratings is that they seem to slightly overvalue goals and assists (if that's possible). It could also well be that he's very effective in the Championship but it won't always translate to the PL. The couple of times I've seen him play with my own eyes he's looked a very average player, but just with a cracking shot on him if given enough space. I don't think he'll get so many opportunities in the PL with his lack of sharpness elsewhere and so his overall usefulness will drop quite a lot.

    An exact quote of mine taken from the Pedersen thread on this issue:
    "Of course the top players from the Champ don't always thrive when they get their move to the PL, but enough of them do for it to be worth a punt"

    ...and as I said above in this thread, Palace are in a position where they can afford to take such a punt on a player like him, but given the ratio of flops to successes when top Champ players move to the PL is maybe 1:1 (just a hunch, maybe somewhere there's a more precise analysis), my belief is that Bowen will end up more on the failure side than the success one.
     
  17. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    £16m and if he gets 8 goals, it's likely we stay up, we go down and he's a ready made Championship level striker for our attempts to get back.

    It's such a no brainer that it's absolutely no surprise we weren't in for him. At all.
     
  18. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    I think Sheffield United have a good player in Sander Berge from Genk.

    A decent midfielder, deep lying with the ability to lope forward to good effect and young at 21, 22 next month.

    We're probably over stocked in that position and at £22m needs to be in the side regularly.
     
  19. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    The main question asked about him must be "how come he is never injured or even a doubt"?!

    I remember artctles from other players saying he is the best trainer etc - well not sure what that says about the others!

    Clearly ability wise he isn't good enough but must do something right fitness wise.
     
  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    And they know they will be playing Premier league football next season so can take a punt.
     
  21. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I have no doubt he trains hard and is a model professional, he's just woefully out of his depth as a Premier League defender. He's put in a couple or decent performances here and there, but on the whole he should be nowhere near a Premier League team.
     
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  22. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    It can only be judged a culmination if we think things will change from here on in. I’m not convinced.
     
  23. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Fair point - it's the fact other get injured and we don't seem to get any new defenders in that keeps him there.
     
  24. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Do you know what else keeps him in there? Getting new contracts.
     
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  25. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    It's some peoples opinion. I'm fairly sure not everybody agrees with everything you post but don't feel the need dig you out with some sarcastic drivel
     
  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I think Sheffield United’s signing of Sander Berge makes the point I’ve been trying to make quite well.

    Lundstram and Fleck have been instrumental for them this season along with it’s Oliver Norwood. But Wilder isn’t just settling - none of them deserve to be dropped but they they will because £22m is a statement. They aren’t standing still thinking they’ve cracked it.

    We’ve sat on this bunch of defenders for a long time and occasionally thrown a couple of million at someone unknown or average.
     
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  27. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    What do you want people to do, have a protest? If you're that unhappy why don't you organise one instead of taking the easy option and digging out the club on here, as well as anyone who shows a morsel of positivity!
     
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  28. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    It’s called a difference of opinion?
    Given a lot of the more positive fans stated that they were sure Gino would act on the defence in January, it’s surely to be expected?

    Is GD’s sarcasm warranted at times? Of course not. But you have every right to fire back at him - it’s just only one side of the argument seem to get angry when that happens?
     
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  29. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I'll say what I like on here. Like everyone else.
     
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  30. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I get plenty. I give plenty. Unlike some, I don't cry about someone having a different opinion to me.
     
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  31. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    The funny thing is, there was no sarcasm in that post.
     
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  32. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    I’m assuming that Adam Leventhal will be at Watford tomorrow to oversee all the incredible signings that we are bound to make tomorrow. Could be quite a day
     
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  33. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

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  34. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    A different opinion is fine. It's a forum and it's all about different opinions. What is annoying is the sarcastic tosh that gets posted. I also don't think anybody has disagreed that we've let the defence become a bit of a mess
     
  35. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    I would have loved to get Berge or Soucek.

    Two good Capoue replacements gone.
     

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