(23) Ismaila Sarr

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by Smudger, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Personal experience IBB ? ;) Forward your complaints to Mr. Meathead and expect to be ignored.
     
  2. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    He's been a disappointment but I'm prepared to absolve him of blame given the utter shower he has to play with and that he's played for six different head coaches in a year and a half. Genuinely feel sorry for him, must spend most of his time wishing he'd never signed for us but despite all that he works hard for the team.
     
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  3. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Certainly not playing like someone who was going to rip the league apart .

    He admitted the other day the Championship surprised him by how physical it was so clearly wasn’t ready .
     
  4. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    Hard when we don’t have another outlet on the left, hard when he’s marked by 2-3 cloggers ruffing him up. Hard when the full back behind him is running around like a headless chicken. Hard when he has nobody in the box moving for him.
    He’s wasted with us, he will become a success when he finds a team that can play.


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  5. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Go to a non-big 6 PL club where he won't be marked within an inch of his life, and I'm sure he'll be great. Really not sure what the issue is here, yes he's not helped by playing with a bunch of morons, but I really did expect more from him
     
  6. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Prawn cocktail is the best flavour!
     
  7. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

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  8. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

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  9. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    Yep and the Pozzo's will have to accept a much lower figure when we don't go up. My estimate is he will go for about £20-£25 million if we are lucky.
     
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  10. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    And create a bigger hole? Brave move.
     
  11. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    I assume you're referring to our deteriorating financial situation. To be honest it will get to a point where something is better than nothing even if it doesn't cover the original outlay.
     
  12. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    They should replace the 'Our time is now' slogan with 'Something is better than nothing'.
     
  13. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    #imagineif is still our slogan isn't it?
     
  14. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    Judging by a few of the comments in threads I've seen on here recently, that would be more appropriately changed to #imagineifpereyrahadscoredthatchanceinthecupfinal
     
  15. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    I agree. This is the natural affect of previous bad decisions. It all unravels very quickly. As far as I'm concerned, the Pozzo's have screwed us financially, and unless they sell us to an owner with some financial clout, I think we'll be kicking around in the Championship or below for many years now. Paying off debt in dribs and drabs. Sarr, Pedro, Hughes and maybe one or two starlets from the academy, if they develop, will service the debt but will not balance the books.

    They had their chance to bounce back this season, but blew it because they were far too cautious even for modest speculation. But you reap what you sow. They deserved the heady days in the Premier League because of their outstanding acumen, and they equally deserve the shitstorm and financial hardship coming their way because of their appalling leadership over the past couple of years.
     
  16. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    I'm going to make a prediction and state that for the rest of my lifetime, I will never see us spend more on someone than we spent on Sarr. That is the high water mark. Covid and a lowering of our status over time will see to that. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. Even if we went up again, certainly initially I couldn't see us spending that much.
     
  17. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Pretty sure we'll end up regretting buying him for that much, regretting not selling him last summer to break even, then regretting selling him at a loss and watching his value sky rocket when he plays in a proper team.
     
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  18. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    You've pretty much laid out there the exact sequence of events which will end up occurring.
     
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  19. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Exactly. Incompetent Pozzo will be wrong at every decision point along the timeline.
     
  20. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    But if the last point is right then the first purchase was right? It will just be the bit in the middle that went wrong.
     
  21. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    What a wonderful character to have. A team player as exemplified by that assist to Zinckernagel. It was great to see the beaming smile come out yesterday. Someone whom I genuinely just wants to play and do his best for his side. The level of frustration from the inability to be utilized properly by successive coaches, team mates unable to connect with him, officials who allow all sorts of challenges on him to go unpunished must have contributed to his hang dog look. While some players may have sulked at not playing in a top division he has not or agitated for a move. Just kept his head down, worked hard for himself and the side.

    He is very much a star in the making. Skill, touch, pace and power and I am certain in a fully functioning side a lethal threat. His sidekick Kiko also deserves credit. No modern winger can succeed without a capable fullback with him and the two mesh together very well as an attacking force but also defensively Sarr was very much in evidence racing back to make a couple of tackles and intercepts.
     
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  22. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    As the comms said, I think the touch just before the pass probably made up his mind! Agreed on his attitude though, it's been a chaotic time for a young lad whose command of the language probably isn't fluent yet, but he always puts in a shift and tracks back. If we could get him charging at defenders more often like yesterday, watch out random Championship cloggers!
     
  23. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    The kid's going far, either with or without us he'll be a Premier League player next season, and I think he's more suited to that at the moment, if he plays for a mid to lower table Prem club who teams won't just sit back against, he'll be lethal. Was pretty lethal for us last season considering he had Deeney alongside him for much of it, and only played with Deulofeu for about 10 games
     
  24. Leetanner

    Leetanner Academy Graduate

    Just shows you change formation ,sarr doesn't defend as much as he has some help behind him,and munoz sees a more attacking animal in the opponents half ,now his season starts and he hits goals and assists
     
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  25. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Most players look/perform better after leaving us and Sarr will be the ultimate example of that.

    Playing Sarr with Deeney and/or Gray up front is like replacing the wheels on a Ferrari with empty cotton reels.
     
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  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Looked like a player close to his value.

    At home against a poor defence who gave him time to run and dominate them.

    Hopefully that will give him confidence he’ll be more consistent particularly away from home.
     
  27. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    True as did King Ken.
     
  28. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn First Year Pro

    I was on Transfermarkt earlier (a great website by the way) and they include penalties won as assists (which some other sites don't do). Anyway, counting penalties won, Sarr has 7 goals and 9 assists, totalling 16 goal contributions.

    Only Toney, Armstrong, Joao, Buendia and Pukki have more goal contributions this season. Kieffer Moore and Dom Solanke are with Sarr on 16.

    Obviously some of that is 'padded' by the Bristol City performance, but still important to recognise that he's had a good output this season.
     
  29. If he is rated on a par with Solanke, we need only mention that fact and I'm sure we will be able to get £50m from Liverpool for him.
     
  30. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Reservist

    I feel like Sarr has almost perfect genetics to be a top athlete. He is lean and fast and yet still strong, he plays every minute of every game and never gets tired or injured. Really is phenomenal.
     
  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Reservist

    Interestingly they didn't give him the assist for the JP goal against Derby, sure the cross was deflected, but he put the ball in the right area and alas the ball ended up in the net
     
  32. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn First Year Pro

    Yeah. I noticed that. I play a Championship fantasy game (gaffr.io) and they didn't give him that assist either, which seems harsh. Assist determination seems fairly arbitrary - anyone know how it works on a formal statistical level? e.g. Is a saved/blocked/off the post or bar shot where the rebound is scored an assist? What about a deflected cross?
     
  33. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    That seems incredibly harsh. Also seems silly to include 'winning' a penalty as an assist in my view.
     
  34. wfc78

    wfc78 Academy Graduate

     
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  35. Rookery Refugee

    Rookery Refugee First Year Pro

    The way statistics are calculated has always been mind-numbing. Fantasy aside, just look week in and week out at "Chances Created" "Shots" "Shots on Target" and "Big Chances" - then compare them with ACTUAL EFFING GOALS!!!! Repeatedly you see a team up 2-0 who have created zero or one "Big Chance" and who have only one "Shot on Target" - and it isn't the result of own goals. WTF? Is Yoda in the stands using The Force to zip the ball into the net?
     

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