Gracia Out

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by GoingDown, Apr 7, 2018.


Should JG go?

  1. Yes, now?

    42 vote(s)
  2. No? He deserves a chance to get us out of the championship?

    1 vote(s)
  3. Not yet. If we lose to Newcastle?

    28 vote(s)
  4. If we are bottom at Christmas?

    7 vote(s)
  5. If we go 10 games without a win?

    13 vote(s)
  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Last edited: Sep 6, 2019
  2. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Reservist

    Just betting companies trying to get gullible people to bet on something that is not going to happen.

    If we were going to sack him, we would have done it by now and given the new coach the whole two weeks of international break to meet the squad and implement his tactics. We’re organized like that.
  3. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Unless they have been trying to secure the agreement of an incoming coach before letting Gracia go...

    Or they may have observed training all week and seen the same motions being gone through or preparations that have failed us so far being undertaken...

    I agree it’s unlikely. But not unthinkable.
  4. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse Strangeland

    Would be slightly bizarre timing to make a change now, not that it would necessarily be the wrong decision. We would've lost a week or so of possible training time under a new manager.

    Aren't manager markets particularly volatile too? Sure it's been discussed on here before, it only takes one not overly large bet to skew a market like that.

    Guess we'll have to see.
  5. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  6. Since63

    Since63 Reservist

    Which suggests that maybe it’s not Javi stubbornly refusing to pick them, but the medical staff telling him they’re not ready to start.
    Still doesn’t excuse not using either at Newcastle.
  7. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    A 'sauce' has just suggested to me that Javi's offski and QSF may be returning. Same 'sauce' that gave me Okaka's offski a few hours before it appeared on here.
  8. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    We've sacked so many managers, that now we've run out and have to start again.
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  9. Keighley

    Keighley Squad Player

    Will Jurado be back too?
  10. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

  11. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

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  12. Squibba

    Squibba Predictor Choker 14/15

    And he's gone
  13. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Breaking News:-

    Official Javi has been sacked.
  14. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

  15. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

  16. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Good decision. Should have been a week ago.
  17. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

    Only gullible people don't believe the odds.
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  18. another_mrlizard

    another_mrlizard Squad Player

  19. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Damn. Surprised the club waited all week to make a change.

    It was coming, but I can’t help but feel rather sad it ended this way. Always conducted himself with dignity, but ultimately paid the price for stubbornness and inability to adapt once teams had worked us out.

    This managerial appointment is absolutely huge, now. Gino has to get it right.
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  20. another_mrlizard

    another_mrlizard Squad Player

    (Stefano Pioli)
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  21. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    You're a hard man! They've probably been working all week on his replacement.
  22. CaveManHornet

    CaveManHornet Reservist

    Please Gino, the last thing we need now is QSF to come in
  23. RMT79

    RMT79 Academy Graduate

    QSF confirmed !!!!
  24. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Reservist

  25. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Fair play!
  26. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'm optimistic that he will get the defence sorted, but also trying to forget performances like the cup semi final, where we fiercely defended a 1-0 deficit.

    Maybe we should have gone for a QSF, JG dream team?

    One thing I will say, Javi leaves with no ill will from me. Good luck to the gnome faced simpleton.
  27. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Gino appointing one of our ex-head coaches gives me hope that one day may see Jokanovic back at the club.
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  28. He certainly 'pulled up trees' for Fulham in the PL.
  29. Happy yellow

    Happy yellow Academy Graduate

    Why did the pozzo's not dismiss Gracia in the summer?

    Did they not discuss tactics during the summer or weak areas of the squad that needed addressing?

    If Hughes scores at home to West ham and we win and the VAR decisions go our way I am convinced that Gracia would still be in charge.

    Appointing QSF is a joke - our defence is worse than it was last time and although he was popular with the players the style of football was appalling for half a season. Playing Abdi as a winger, sticking with Jurado for an entire season?

    It is as if the Pozzo's are saying - 'yeah we made mistakes with our defence recruitment, we are now in a relegation battle because of it and we need a short term fix to protect our investment with Premier League status for next season.'

    QSF will almost certainly be gone by the end of the season and most neutrals will put us down for sacking our saviour - assuming we maintain our status.
  30. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Reservist

    Agreed. He won't be here this time next year. Another big fat payday for him.

    The Spanish Allardyce.
  31. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I can't see Gino reaching that level of enlightenment
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  32. We hate 48

    We hate 48 Reservist

    No clean sheet in the league for 16 games now and 64 goals conceded in last 38 when we have picked up 39 points- that’s bottom 4 form and we have not been there before. Fantastic cup run up until the final but this glossed over the league form after the great 4 win start to last season

    No surprise
  33. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    Sorry Javi.

    Will be remembered warmly, but can understand the decision and the timing.
  34. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! First Year Pro

    You never know, it might be exactly what we need...
  35. hornmeister

    hornmeister Administrator Staff Member

    I need to stop drinking and doing that is moderately less unpleasant.

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