Covid-19 Virus

I take the point although I doubt whether 6-7 months is really long enough to measure long-term health impacts.

 

Genuine question, why?

I'm likely being naive but why not get a decent sample size of people who had the virus in March/April and keep track of the progress of their symptoms? May not give a definite answer but would be better than nothing, and would help to build a picture.

 

I'm just guessing here but I suspect a medic regards 'long-term' as much longer than that. IE that over a shorter period of a few months, symptoms might persist, but eventually clear up.

I agree with your second point but there are various surveys/tests going around. @HappyHornet24 is doing one. Mrs Keighley has literally just now recieved the same antibody test which I did in August and I think @Otter (?) has done. Aren't these surveys (or follow-ups) being used, in part, to get the data you are talking about? Even if not, I'd be surprised if this wasn't happening somewhere, although I accept that we don't yet seem to have much information available from them.

 

We could call it ‘Track & Trace’ or something equally snappy. Don’t hold your breath for the results, though.

 

Whatever your views on the rights and wrongs of lockdowns as a virus control strategy, I hope we can all agree that people like the once great Ian Brown are absolute ******* idiots.

Check out the lyrics from his latest effort - a tick list of pathetic conspiracy b0ll0cks. Beyond embarrassing https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/ianbrown/littleseedbigtree.html:

 

A Merseyside pub has been renamed and given a smart new sign by the owner who is unhappy about the pub’s closure as part of the new lockdown.

 

So, a bit more info today on the statistics behind 'long covid', thanks to researchers from King's College London. They say 1 in 20 people still have symptoms 2 months on, 1 in 50 still have symptoms 3 months on. 1 in 10 say their symptoms lasted over a month.

Women, older people, people with higher BMI and those who had more symptoms in the first week are more likely to suffer long term. Most common long-term symptom is severe fatigue. Mental health problems also quite common, among many other symptoms.

This seems high, to me. I think we'll need a boost to SSP in the next few months. £95 a week isn't enough to live on, if you're not in a fit state to work due to long covid.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-10-21...le-have-symptoms-lasting-more-than-two-months

 

The Metropolitan Police have told pub landlords to ask for names, addresses and photo IDs of customers before serving them to ensure people from different households aren’t mixing. Unbelievable

"Und who is in ze support bubble?"

 

Think its time for a 2nd national lockdown.

 

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Important post. Worth typing.

 

The choice is you either have the cops enforcing these 'well thought-out laws' (cue cries from the cops that they've got better things to and, probably, every single person who's investigated by them for this offence) or the landlords who are already collecting and recording the vast majority of these data.

That photo actually shows Nazi cops in 'action': two "Order Police" (actually 'proper' policemen who, none the less, still formed the majority of einsatzgruppen with an "Auxillary Policeman" (generally a local psychopath prone to 'settling scores').

Rather than our police getting involved in this farce I would be more worried if our country became more like the reality of the Nazi/DDR police state: the gestapo/stasi weren't massive force in every corner of society monitoring their citizens for any criminality but very small forces that actually spent their time collating the vast amount of, usually anonymous, denunciations...

 

Well it looks like remdesivir: it's a 'miracle cure' that cuts hospital stays by 5 days (n=~500) and can only be given under some fairly strict conditions:

That would be the same remdesivir that a much larger studies (n=~11000) found it had no discernable effect on c19 patient survival rates. Still it's not all bad news for Gilead (the drug's manufacturer):

 

It's illegal to drink under 18 and it's enforced with photo ID to get served.

Because household mixing is causing the spread of a disease that's killing people it's now temporarily illegal. I don't really see enforcing with photo ID being like the Nazi regime.

 

You'll be happy when they start locking people up for not following mask-wearing rules too, no doubt

 

I now know someone who has died from Covid-19 (an acquaintance rather than someone close). First person I know personally who has died from it.

 

Ahhhh your an anti-masker explains a lot...

 

No I'm happy with not wasting prison space and just fining people.

Same way I approve of punishing people who drink drive and take risks with other peoples safety really

 

Have you considered putting yourself forward for a British Citizen Award?

 

Waiting until Captain Tom snuffs it first.

 

I gather the government are considering a Tier 4 for England. Total lockdown with only Wetherspoons allowed to open, perhaps?

 

Well if the restrictions we've all had to endure in Tiers 1, 2 and 3 haven't worked I'm certain the new Tier 4 measures will. That has to be right, doesn't it?

 

Looking forward to "Tier 3.5", "Tier 4 south", "Tier 4 north", "Tier 5 labour held", and "No more tiers (enough is enough)". We can't be outdone with the Scots 5 tiers.

 

In return for Tim Martin to give Boris a column in wetherspoons magazine for 20k a month.

Win win really.

 

Anyone ever been hypnotised?

 

Not knowingly. Though for no apparent reason I do break into singing "The lovecats" by The Cure whenever anyone says the word "hamster".

 

I had one. Very surreal experience where you can't even sit down as they administer it. On the plus side they were bang on time!

 

They're saying that those who have had Covid that the antibodies have disappeared from the immune system after 3 months. This is why a few people have been reported to have had Covid twice, the research shows however that those who are exposed to Covid more, such as hospital staff, don't tend to lose their antibodies.

On the face of it, that sounds worrying, however as it's a coronavirus, as is the common cold, this comes as no surprise as people will get a cold again and again throughout their lives. Time will tell whether the potency of Covid will lessen as time goes on bearing in mind the common cold was a killer for Australian Aborigines in the late 18th century.

 

Something which many of these doomsday articles ignore is the fact that antibodies are expected to disappear from the immune system within a few months after combatting an infection as it is not efficient for the body to continually produce them - however, cell memory does develop after having been infected previously which means that the body can quickly produce the antibodies again if/when someone does get in to contact with the virus again.

The other thing they are sometimes ignoring is that antibodies are not the only way in which the immune system combats the virus; t-cells will also likely be a significant contributor.

If immune system response was truly set to zero after just a few months, then we'd be seeing waaaay more cases of people being re-infected during this so-called "second wave"; as it is, the number of reported cases where people are believed to have come down with the virus twice are in the double-digits worldwide.

 

I hope some of you who are feeling a bit anxious about the situation are reassured by this photo showing one of our world class track and trace teams going about their important work

 

People like you are the reason i left england. Utter moron