Isn’t that rather the point? If you spend 18 million quid on someone, you expect them to be able to control a football rather better than Gray does. Otherwise you will be disappointed. So Peneranda can’t be a worse signing.
Despite not being able to control a football, and barely being able to kick it, Gray has still occasionally proved useful, Penaranda's only played against non-league/lower league teams in the cups
It was different though because we paid the money to Udinese so kept it in the family. Gray the money went to Burnley a rival
Yes, the point I made in my comment is the point. I don't know how I could have lent more heavily towards acknowledging judgement on Gray, considering I even mentioned in brackets how our talking of him is correct, and went on to explain the caveat about Penaranda. As it happens though, you would still have to give Gray credit for the goals that he has scored, that have at times earned us both points and progression (although sadly not this season) - Gray had a decisive role in the FA Cup semi, for example. He has scored double figures in goals for us, and played a significant amount of minutes. None of those things can be said of Penaranda, despite the fact that he has been with us for years, is now 23 and theoretically cost in the double figures of millions.
Well yes, as I said, we didn't really truly pay that, but that's pretty irrelevant in assessing a player's impact unless we think we can somehow trace the exact money given to Burnley for him having some decisive impact in them finishing in the position they did and us not. West Ham were an actual rival to us this season, and eventually escaped where we did not, so a far closer relation to us than Burnley have been in recent years, yet I don't think we would be assessing Quina more negatively because we gave them money for him.
Even if the money was kept in the family, it still comes off our account sheets, and still counts for things like FFP
This is as much down to the clubs lack of "parenting" as it is down to the player. We really do treat our young talent badly, shipping them all over, not playing them when we keep them here. No wonder they get dissillusioned. Dahlberg being a prime example.
Surely the Pozzos can just simply arrange a hit ? I'm sure we'll have him insured for a decent sum. There's really no point having Italian owners if they don't use their connections. Then use the proceeds to buy someone decent....would be just like a new signing.
i'm surprised we haven't caught Dahlberg acting out to be honest. Of all our youngsters, I'd say his transfer in hindsight was the most bizarre one. Why buy a hot prospect if you won't play him or loan him out?
I'm not sure why he would be sacked for getting his leg over. That said, no big loss if he does go. He's shown absolutely nothing to back up the hype apart from one half decent goal against Coventry reserves.
we didnt get rid of success after his alleged night with a trio of hookers and a bottle of baileys....so i cant imagine we will get rid of penaranda because he is a bit of an exhibitionist!
Absolute dog ****, what a waste of time and money this one was. Next time any Watford fan tells you a player is going to be the next big thing and will be sold for 500000000000 million to Barcelona you can just ignore them.
I have always thought he looked decent when given a chance, he just wasn't given a chance very often. He was playing regular football in Spain, got transferred here where he was going to be "huge" then not played, if that had happened to me, I'd probably ony be half assed when it came to training or reserve matches, as well. If you give young men obscene amounts of money, and very little guidance, they will inevitably act like idiots. Now we have dropped down a league and those that consider themselves too good for the Championship want away, this could be the time for him to actually earn his money. New league, new manager, clean slate. As for that video, a bit of an ass twerking in a thong, is something you can see on most rap videos.
I can tell you people I've had and have got a lot worse recorded on my phone. My Mrs deserves an award for some of them
My brothers you to refer to Bertie Mee as 'Bertie Bonkers'. I'm reasonably certain it had no hidden meaning,the surname not having it's modern derivation. I never thought I would find another 'BB'. Silly Bertie,may have been his last action,so to speak.
I posted a rumour about Yeni Malatyaspor being interested in Penaranda recently but I can't find it now. Anyway, it seems someone is on their way there and talks are ongoing. I presume it's Adelberto as he was linked before and the poster has a juicy peach/ass in the tweet because of his recent holiday shenanigans. Probably. Not really. Absolutely true and you know it. https://twitter.com/EvrenChicago/status/1296460061296951298?s=20 translated it says; 'Malatyaspor (juicy peach/ass) There is phone traffic with Watford... hamza teacher'
Would be their best player by a mile. Locals would be queuing up just to get a glimpse of him. Probably worth more than their entire squad and "stadium" put together.
Penaranda has gone to Malatylaspor. So that's another out the door. Nicolò Schira @NicoSchira · 8m Done deal! Adalberto #Peñaranda to #Malatyaspor from #Watford. They have closed for the venezuelan striker after #Lapadula's rejection. #transfers
Hahaha. So the ‘Next Messi’ isn’t even good enough to be a squad player in the Championship. Pozzo model.