Duxbury And Pozzo - Silence

Didn't the club or one of our shady 'betting partners' pay a porn star to come to one of our games and post about it on her Instagram story as well earlier this season? I wonder what GT would have made of that?

The club has been a circus since the week of three head coaches in 2014, which incidentally was around the time that daddy gave full control of the club to his idiot son.

 

Would be good to hear from them . Particularly if we get relegated i would like them to come out and talk about what they think went wrong and their plans going forward.

They’ve made mistakes , but it’s their lack of communication which I believe fuels all the speculation about the club being toxic /player power and whether they still have the best interests of this club at heart .

I still firmly believe they have the best interests of Watford at heart and what had happened this season is part and parcel of running a premier league club in the modern era . They will be desperately disappointed that despite their hard work, we could lose our premier league status . But an interview with Scott Duxbury would really help bring this home .

 

Managers loose the dressing room and get sacked .... the board and custodians of our club loose the bigger dressing room, namely us the fans ... so what happens next ?

 

Our highly prized world wide fan base will be distraught tonight. From Ouagadougou to Beijing the tears will be flowing, parents struggling to comfort children in Watford shirts... They're the real losers here.

 

Pozzo and Giraldi were so arrogant and selfish that they put the two most important matches in our Premier League history in the hands of Mullins, who has two matches of experience in the top flight... because they had an argument with Pearson, who told them hard truths.

That's the reality of it. Their thin skins and emotions made that level of risk okay.

It's completely mad.

And the only alternative is that there was a bigger reason to sack him. But that means they are not being honest with us, what's been briefed to the media is wrong, what Troy said in the BeIN Sports interview (which was coached, you can hear someone in the background) was not accurate. Is that better or worse?

Either way, confidence in them is gone.

#GiraldiOut

 

So he can spin more BS?

Not interested in hearing from any of them unless it’s a statement to say they’ve resigned or are selling the club.

 

At this point the club is soulless so I hope we get an oil rich Arab to buy us out. That’s the way football is heading anyway. Can’t beat them, join them.

 

I agree......the club has lost it's way and there's a big divide between the fans and the club now. It's a shame as I thought if they could just get through this season, we may finally start to get somewhere. We'll never know I guess.

 

My thoughts exactly. If we could have just held on. We would have had a great team next season

Foster

New RB Wilmot New CB Estupinan

Hughes, Chalobah/Capoue

Sarr/Cucho, Doucoure/Quina, Deulofeu/Pedro

Welbeck/Suarez

Would have been pushing for a top 10 finish.

 

Annoyingly, I can believe it.

 

I think there must be, and will be, something said by the owner and/or chairman if we go down. But if by some chance we stay up, I’d expect it to mute and the status quo to carry on. People here saying they won’t go anymore, or won’t watch. But most will. And Gino will know it. It’s only in the event of relegation that they will feel they need to keep people on side.

 

I wonder how they'll be seen in 10 years time? (Obviously there might be plenty more chapters left to write, and who they eventually sell to will be important

 

Edited that for you. It would take a lot of faith without foundation to expect we would have made that many changes.

 

If, and it’s a massive if, it transpires we stay up on the final day...I’ve seen how fans of clubs have reacted in the past when they achieve safety - wild celebration. We don’t even have that joy. I will just feel massively embarrassed and hope it all goes away quietly for a few weeks at least. I’ll be angry as well, I don’t mind admitting it. I’ve been a fan of this club all my life - but I’ll be angry if we survive. Because I’ve come round to the train of thought that relegation might be the only way the owner and his cronies will learn - and survival gets them off that realisation of just how far they are losing fans faith and trust.

Their lack of communication for years means that they can avoid scrutiny to a large degree. Well I hope they can avoid it no more. I’m furious with them for putting me, as a fan, in a position where I kinda want the club I support to fail just so they can finally face some music that they seem desperate to evade.

 

This is bang on. It's been such a mess that even a crazy survival day would get nothing more than a shrug. If we stay up (we won't) it'll be the Gino and Giraldi sh*t show all over again.

Take away the camaraderie and social aspect of going to games and what you're left with is watching a team you have little affinity with, playing a game you have no control over. The lockdown is going to have an impact on clubs that they did not expect, as not everyone is coming back.

Thank you Nigel Pearson for at least trying to do things properly and trying to get across to the owners what a disaster they have created.

 

You have to take a few poundings, stand up and be humiliated and then you have to go down, hard.

 

Well, if we somehow stay up, they won't care if the people sitting in the seats are 40 year veterans of supporting the Hornets, or some family who've just moved to the area from North London to get a larger house in the commuter belt and want to come and watch a neutral team play PREMIER LEAGUE footie every week. They will probably spend more on merch and F&B than I do, so all the better for Gino and co. The fact that they enjoy Arsenals' goals more than ours when we get pasted doesn't matter to anyone at the club. As long as there are bums on seats and cash in the tills, and it's LIVE.

 

Wasn't Mia Khalifa a West Ham fan, prepared to don and pose in a Watford shirt, just to get access? I think we've found @doughnut 's real identity!

 

Spot on with this – I find myself torn, on one side I’d like us to stay up in the hope that we get to see more of the likes of Sarr, Suarez, Pedro, Estupian, etc and maybe just maybe we can push on in the way Wolves have. But, then as mentioned by others, there is just no guarantee the club will have a serious reflection on the mistakes made both on and off the field if we do retain our Premier League status, and rather than implementing change we will instead adopt a “we got away with that mentality”.


Given the damage chasing the Premier League money and creating “brand” Watford has done to the club over the past 24 months it does feel that the only way we will see some sense of accountability is if the club is impacted financially, and lock-down coupled with relegation is going to hurt Watford significantly – how many of the Sponsors brought on board and paraded like a new signing will have renegotiation on their minds with relegation, let alone the down valuation of our sell-able assets?


In terms of the fans, I feel we are at a real tipping point for the first time in the period the Pozzo’s have been in charge. It’s not down to being relegated which I feel we all accepted may happen at some time, it is down to the manner in which it has happened and how the club is now being portrayed in the wider football family - we’re not a Millwall who seem to take pride in being viewed as pr1cks.

From the owners, communication to us fans as key stakeholders has been so poor which, given their desire to push Watford as a brand, is very surprising. The constant breaking news on other social media platforms before anything from Watford just smacks of negligence and a lack of respect. Should the inevitable happen on Sunday, a quick sound bite saying “We’re sorry for the results this season but will do all we next” just isn’t going to cut it. Watford fans aren’t (in the main) idiots so don’t take us as fools, we invest significantly both financially and emotionally and generally are very well informed on football matters. So, much like when the Pozzo’s came in, we want to know where the club is, where it is going, what are the aims over the next 12, 36 and 60 months and how it’s going to be achieved. Only then will they get us all back on side and all pulling in the same direction, which is going to be even more important given how horrible the Championship can be.


Without the above, it feels that the progress we’ve made over the past 7 years could all have been undone in the space of 12 months, which as a fan is pretty hard to stomach.

 

I think you’re placing too much emphasis on the Silva appointment. He got the job because of a very short, promising, but ultimately unsuccessful spell at Hull. there was no long term thinking in the appointment just like there hasn’t been with any other manager. The only manager I think that has long term thinking behind it was Walter, and he was an obvious disaster.

 

I'm fully expecting a statement like after the cup final.

'This won't be the last time we will be in the Premier League!'

 

Silva had already had a CV that showed he moves on quickly from job to job when we appointed him. Duxbury was still harping in about coaches having a limited shelf life then. They knew he would be at the club for 1-2 years max.

The simple truth is that no manager we have hired us been viewed with any long-term thinking. They’ve admitted it themselves.

I think the subtle difference with the Silva reign was that they perhaps had showed signs of a greater collaboration with the manger and were preparing to loosen their grip on some aspects of things - Silva personally calling Richarlison to convince him to move, being vocal about what positions we needed to strengthen etc - but they saw how things went downhill when his head was turned and probably retracted back to their style of working again, rather than putting that same trust into another manager.

 

Yeah, I agree with all those points. I think if anything his appointment confirms their lack of long term plan, because the fact that they appointed him off the back of his purple patch with Hull probably meant they didn’t have anybody else long term in mind, if they did it didn’t take much to displace them from their thoughts. It was just a question of good timing, rather than forward planning.

 

‘...and that’s why we’re buying Brentford”

 

Interesting. Maybe Gino is living purely off daddy's success.

 

I really do hope that once relegation is confirmed we get a statement confirming their long term commitment to the club. I know a lot of people want them gone, but short of an Arab state wanting to buy us, I’m not sure selling us as a championship club will deliver the best outcome for us. I’d also like them to admit they’ve made mistakes and this is why we’ve been relegated, but back in the real world that’s highly unlikely.

 

Gino must speak,not Duxbury.
He is an eloquent man.
Before his lack of utterances looked enigmatic,now it looks baffling.
Actions speak louder but speak first Gino and don't hide behind Duxbury and the fat Maguire lookalike.

 

But is he Roman or Kendall?

 

Interesting how, in a COVID pandemic when doing things like online forums and discussions to connect with fans and replace the At Your Place sessions would've been really easy... they've shut up shop. Strange for a club that had generally been more open. Speaks to the point above about after Silva's departure, tightening the reigns. Same thing on communications.

But here's an Insta post about "we go again"........

 

If he looked like Kendall we'd probably be more forgiving

 

Desperately trying to stay up whilst Giraldi watches and takes notes?