Thank you Xisco you brought a feel good factor back to our club and for that we will always be grateful, but I fear you will not be able to handle the Premier league on your own. Ideally I'd like you to kept on because you deserve it, but unless we bring in someone to mentor you and work with you in a management team I can't see you being here next season. Perhaps you could convince your old boss Rafa to join you at the club that could just work. Something similar worked in the past when Steve Burkinshaw mentored Aidy, and way back Bertie Mee ex-Arsenal did something similar, so a precedent has been set. Lets hope something like that could be done again if not with Rafa then with someone else, then you and whoever could work together to establish us in the Premier League instead of us being a constant yo yo club.
Sacked in the morning You’re getting sacked in the morning Sacked in the morrrrning You’re getting sacked in the morning
How difficult is it to manage good players? Really? You’re a centre back. You play there with this other big lug. He scores goals, you lads give it to him. And how difficult is it to manage games? A change on sixty minutes. We’re losing, stick the maverick forward on. We’re winning, two subs for the shytehousery. Let him get on with it and fire him if he doesn’t make a good start. Or even if he does.
And replace him with which fab manager who will sign up knowing no he’ll be sacked within 10 games of the start ? Sorry, what was I thinking. Pardew.
I’ve been a vocal critic of Xisco’s faults and I still feel ultimately keeping him on is a huge risk... But I do also think today has shown me that I’ve lost sight at times of what it is to be a fan - and I admit that. I can 100% confirm it’s the alcohol talking but Xisco’s tears show just how much he’s bought into us. And that’s ultimately all I ever want when you strip everything else away. Someone who cares.
Agreed. Also, can take Duxbury’s words at FT a few different ways I guess - but seems to me he was suggesting that there were times he and Gino were seriously considering walking away mid-season.
It puzzles me how they could possibly have known Xisco would be a good appointment. He'd done pretty much *** all in management before he came to us. It was either a stroke of genius or unbelievably jammy, I can't decide which.
His short managerial career so far.. One league title. One promotion. Bloke is a proven winner, and you underestimate him at your peril. Too easy to dismiss him as being nothing more than a feel good factor, Ivic, Sannino and Mazzari all came to us with better CVs and ended up ******* everybody off. Everybody has bought into Munoz’s modus operandi and I reckon the good vibes around the club have been worth a few extra points. Should he stay? Yes, but he knows the score. First bad run in the PL and I doubt he will be shown any loyalty.
I don't agree with Moog that the squad is toxic, the players seem a lot more likeable now, probably due to a combination of the more negative influences leaving or being dropped, and the less likeable ones being more positive and putting in a shift, and Munoz has to have played a part in that. Even Gray has been more useful than a chocolate fireguard lately.
The appointments of Zola and Jokanovic makes me want to give them the benefit of the doubt. Both pretty inexperienced, but both fit the bill perfectly at the time. Xisco too.
We all know that Gino is a ruthless ****. Thanks for the memories Xisco. Has anyone looked at the odds of him getting the sack? It’s got to be worth a bet knowing what we know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Walt has a very successful CV, and far too good for us and what we deserved. He was ridiculously unlucky with injuries but still did well, and even gave a big **** you to the worst of our fans at the end, which I loved. That our club decided to get rid of him, rather than the poison apples who hated him, was a key instigator of our eventual demise. Beppe was fine. Ivic was rubbish, and did way worse than Beppe with a significantly better side. The difference between our lucky raffle winner and Ivic was probably Champions versus missing out on the play offs. Incredible given this is the best Championship team we've had, in comparison to the rest of the league, in our history.
You can’t take it away from him because he’s got the job done and it didn’t look like that was going to happen. His subs are still questionable and we’re going to have to be even more innovative with formations next season or we’ll get found out against the better teams. For me the squad is still pretty unlikable (compared to previous squads) and vast swathes of players will have to be at the top of their career for us to stand a chance but that’s next season, tonight we celebrate. They are more likable than in January and the vids of everyone celebrating are mint. This transfer window will be interesting. Even if there is a lack of movement, that’s an interesting call from the club.
This is the second time the Pozzos have plucked a relative no-mark manager from a lower league club who has gone on to take us up automatically. No one gets that lucky twice. This is a damn hard league to get out of.
It takes 18 months to get them so no, he certainly doesn't/won't have them - he would require dispensation, regardless. One of the ways that can happens is if it is proved that the pandemic had disrupted his ability to complete them, but since he's been here less than 6 months and, again, it is an 18-month course, I'm not sure how much water that would carry. One of the last obvious examples of a manager being allowed to work in the top division without the pro-licence was Southgate at Boro back in 2007, although the situation was no carbon copy as they were not being promoted - they were already in the division, and he was taking over.
Not sure it would be the sack, because I think The Kid only has a contract to the end of the season, so wouldn't he just be out of contract?
I'm not yet 100% convinced by Xisco. Brought a good feeling, man management etc but I haven't seen enough tactically and use of substitutions. Let's face it he has been blessed with a talented squad relative to the league. The qualifications issue is also potentially a problem (or maybe a solution il come back to it) That said harsh af to ditch him and he clearly has the players backing. For me I'd live to see a benitez come in and work with Xisco. The qualifications issue is a way of all saving face so it's not looking like a demotion etc. Work with Rafa for 2 years get your quals then let him take over in year 3 and lead us to the PL title *I may have got a little carried away COYH
You can see by the celebrations yesterday that the players absolutely love Xisco. Tactically he has got a lot to learn, but he has mastered the human element of coaching especially with this younger generation of players who disciplinarians like Ivic and Mourinho simply cannot get through to. In Pozzo terms he deserves a pre-season and the games up until the October International break to prove he can cut it in the Premier League
I am sure Xisco would have been appointed on the basis it was believed that he had the potential to be a very good coach/manager and at ultimately a much bigger club than Watford. Sometimes those appointments work, on others occasions they go badly. The easiest thing to do would have been what every other club would have done and appoint a manager with experience of the championship. Now that we have a manager who looks like he has real potential it would be madness not to stick with him, and give him a decent contract.
I think this is because most of us have a limited knowledge of Spanish football. I thought it was amusing ahead of his first game with us against Norwich when he was asked if this was the biggest game he had been involved with. He modestly admitted it was a big game, but mentioned his other experience like winning the UEFA Cup with Valencia. He hasn’t really come from nowhere and had he been a UEFA cup winner with Chelsea we’d have heard of him even if that was the pinnacle.
