Looking at all messages the use of "everybody" counters your suggested use of capitals. On day one I don't think we ascertained which of the two messages was real as both were found to be good, other than the fact that the second message came late on. Something about the first message doesn't quite sit right with me , surely the seer would have written "he must have been".
We know which message was real on the first day, as both messages on the second day say that they viewed Ashdon and he was good. Therefore logically, one has to be from the Seer. The use of "everybody" was flagged up by BRLR yesterday. The Wolf has clearly read that post. Edit: it wasn't just the capitals, it was the paragraph spacing too.
Guardian can only guard each player once. They guarded Diamond on the first night. Agreed that it was a waste coming to mine though as I was round someone else's.
I don't think we can pay too much attention to the style because the seer has possibly said that they will mix styles to avoid duplication and of course the wolf will deliberately be mixing styles . I'm not necessarily saying that SLB is evil , although I'm not discounting it , but it relies on extreme odds of him being a harlot AND Daft Row being tinker . The only other option is to take a pot luck and lynch someone else who is most likely to be good . SLB your argument is pretty strong the more I read it , but not water tight . Ordinarily that would be enough to convince me you are telling the truth , but with so little else to go on , it's hard not to pick you . Apologies if I'm wrong .
BRLR - we know for a fact it was the Wolf that said they would be mixing the styles up!!!!!!! Let me try to explain it as simply as possible: Day 1 Message 1 HAS TO BE THE SEER. How do we know this? Because both messages the following day said that they viewed Ashdon, therefore one must have been from the Seer. Therefore Day 1 Message 2 has to be from the Wolf, and it is they who said they would be mixing the styles up. There is no maybe or possibly about it, you can work it out 100%!
Wolves know eachother now... I suggest we keep and eye out if anyone's behaviour towards each other changes. Seems more likely now that SLB is the harlot but can we risk not lynching someone named evil?
This is the crux of the matter. SLB's actions are consistent but the fact he was named Evil? Argh. Stupid Forum game.
Moderator discretion, when I was Harlot no they didn't. I knew them but they didn't know I'd visited. Fair enough.
Another interesting morning. I'm presuming Diamond was picked as known safe and couldn't be protected by the guardian again. As for SLB, I just don't know but can understand why he seems a better pick than someone at random. No one else left has been called evil at this stage have they? Advance warning that my work is ludicrously busy and also I'm out from about 6.15pm tonight so will need to vote relatively early.
Hello. Back until midday. Re question above - no. because in the last game 'Jugs had visited me (which he revealed after I'd been eaten). I had no idea. Players Left BigRossLittleRoss Otter The PozzMan Steve Leo Beleck - named evil; claims to be the harlot Grrwood With A Smile Squibba - named as good by seer/wolf Cassetti's Beard HappyHornet24 Meh Cthulhu Hornetgags Nisman Domthehornet Steve Harrow PowerJugs NW Orn Optimistichornet - named as good by seer/wolf So 18 players left; at least 3 are evil, 2 of whom know each other's identities. (This is assuming there is only one traitor in the mix) The question is, whether it is worth asking SLB to prove he is the harlot by "outing" the good players he has visited? Normally, it wouldn't be worth the risk as it gives the wolves "free kills" but they pretty much have that anyway as they know each other's identities. The only evil player they don't know is the traitor but I imagine that won't be too hard for them to work out either, now they know each other. Actually, this won't work because he could just lie if he's evil. Aaaargh!
We know there is a harlot as explained by Harrow in the rules. No one else has claimed to be the harlot. Lynching slb tonight without another harlot revealing themselves is rediculous in my opinion.
Morning all. I'm reading through all of this and trying to get to grips with it. However this ^^^ does make sense. Only the alpha wolf knows for a fact that DR was the tinker. SLB makes a good argument for being the Harlot but other than two names put forward as good what else do we have to go on ?
I agree. The only scenario that would allow SLB to falsely claim to be the harlot would be if either mike or Ashdon were the harlot;they failed to go out on the first night and were killed. But this seems very unlikely to me and SLB would not have known this when he claimed to be the harlot. The fact that the Seer did not view me makes me think that I am not wide of the mark. I was quite vocal yesterday - leading to some accusing me of being the traitor or a "special role" - and yet the Seer did not view me as someone suspicious. I am very wary of lynching SLB and do have a couple of people on my radar. However, is it irresponsible to point the finger at someone without firm evidence and ignore someone who has been named evil? If SLB is evil, he has played a blinder but I can't believe the "real" harlot would not have come forward by now.
Now having thought it through... FACT having slain Diamond last night both wolves know each other. CLAIM SLB outed himself as the harlot, no one else has disputed that with a counter claim. WHY NOT? No normal villager would do that and compromise another good player dishonestly, no evil player would do that as that will give unwanted attention on themselves. If SLB was a wolf then whoever is the Alpha would have almost certainly wrote a message stating that someone else was EVIL in order to help save the wolf from a certain lynching. If SLB is the harlot as far as the wolf is concerned, then realistically the only way to get rid of them is to either be lucky or get the villagers to lynch him, hence the message randomly stating someone else is good. The only other reason for the wolf to name someone evil would have been if the seer's message was stating someone as evil. Conclusion SLB is most probably the harlot. And for the wolf not to name someone evil then message #2 must have been the wolf's, even going as far as reiterating that SLB is evil.
I wonder if the write up would have alluded to the harlot being killed as they've been pretty clear so far. I have a couple on my list. May go into it later. Doubt anyone newly named today is the beta. The seer will say if evil. The alpha wont draw attention to their new known friend.
Right here goes nothing, it's time for the Hail Mary to try to save my life! @Cassetti's Beard - I appreciate you're on holiday and have got better things to do than to play this game, that's probably why you didn't vote last night! Can you do Team Good one favour though if you happen to check the website? Can you just confirm that you're GOOD? I know this as I'm the Harlot and I visited you one night (oo-er missus!). If CB logs on and confirms that, then in the absence of anyone else, he could lynched tonight as an inactive player who is likely to go anyway, and his sacrifice will allow a Good player who is also the Harlot to survive. I am not willing to name the other person I have stayed with at the moment because they have been active and it seems unfair to highlight their name to the Wolves.
Look at this: http://wfcforums.com/index.php?thre...s-intro-chat-thread.52720/page-2#post-2542697 Harrow confirms there is a Harlot when he says: I have copied and pasted below the message I sent to the harlot this game, just so everyone understsnds the rules:
I can clearly see where Otter is coming from. It's easier when you can see it laid out in perspective
Come to think of it, I have another piece of circumstantial evidence to help prove I'm the Harlot. Cassetti's Beard didn't vote yesterday and Harrow had already stated that the first day was a final warning for everyone. So why wasn't he kicked out of the game? Because I chose to stay with him last night and because I was playing football when voting closed, I chose him BEFORE the results were known. He didn't vote but Harrow couldn't kick him out of the game otherwise that would have been unfair on me, as I couldn't have then chosen someone else before the deadline he set for BRLR to do the write-ups. Why did I choose to stay with him? I read Harrow's message about submitting night actions early only five mins before going out to football, so had to make a snap decision. I was pretty certain that Team Evil had been quite active so just chose the person who'd contributed least as I thought I'd be safe there and the Wolves wouldn't waste a kill.
Just to be clear, I have given Cassettis Beard one last chance to post more and vote. If he doesnt he'll be kicked out the game! Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Why do people keep saying that the first message can't be from a seer as it states that 'daft was the tinker'. The seer would know for definite that daft was a tinker if he had viewed him as evil and it turns out he was good. There is theoretically no other outcome there, so it's a logical conclusion for the seer to make? Personally squibba seemed quite lost and confused yesterday, so it seems an odd choice to view him. I know for a fact I am good, but I still think there is a chance I have been name dropped by the wolf.
Hello. For once I'm early for my lunch so sitting waiting in pub & checked in quickly. So, rightly or wrongly, finally others are following my (& Meh's) logic. Does this mean you don't think I'm a traitor anymore Otter?! People on my radar: BRLR; was Otter before above post; DomtheHornet
