Summer Transfer Window 23/24 Grade

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Markoa$, Jul 28, 2023.

  1. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    F- times infinity!

    Absolutely disgusting the club have given Bachmann 5 years and the captaincy!
     
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  2. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Outgoings A. Incomings E. So C overall.

    Suspect Pozzo is getting ready to sell after failing. Kone/Asprilla will be hived off to Udine at Xmas.

    Edit: didn’t know that useless Bachman has been ingrained for 5 years. Down to a D.
     
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  3. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Aside from players who don't have a hope of getting into our first team, I think our outgoings are more or less done, the hope now is that we bring in a few more, money is tight, but there clearly is some to bring in some players on loan at least. As long as those players aren't Livermore-esque then I remain hopeful we can put out a competitive team this season
     
  4. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Agree. This Bachman decision has really made me question if they have any clue though.
     
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  5. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    There's still more than a month left!

    What a daft, premature thread.
     
  6. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Although some will say better to get players in now than leave it till after 4/5 games where we may or may not do well .
     
  7. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Even if that's the case you can't grade it until it actually has or hasn't occurred.
     
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  8. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    I absolutely can with Bachmann getting a 5 year extension and made captain!

    We could bring in Mitrovic for all I care, and it will still be an F- times infinity.
     
  9. WFC123

    WFC123 Academy Graduate

    Mods close thread. This is premature transferlation all over.
     
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  10. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Agreed way too early to even bother.
     
  11. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    I’m still assessing the 12/13 season transfer window as some of the players are still playing .

    Gimme me a shout in ten years time and I’ll let you know .
     
  12. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Still think TDB needs to be shipped out. Kid isn’t good enough. It’s not his season, and it never will be. Problem is, we’re forced to keep him because we legit only have Louza and Kone as our other CM’s. We desperately need to sign 2 CM’s. That’s outside of desperately needing a Striker or two, a DM and a LCB.

    I would add a GK to that list as I did before but now it’s completely pointless after today’s baffling decision.
     
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  13. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I don't mind him, and I know we've said this before, but surely TDB isn't going to be a regular, we've got Louza, Koné, Kayembe, Livermore, Asprilla, Chakvetadze and hopefully one more in his way
     
  14. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    I really don't get this "Hate in" for Bachman, he may not be the best keeper, but he's far from the worst I've seen.
     
  15. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    To early to grade our transfer window, at least I hope it is as there is definitely room for improvement.
     
  16. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Outgoings: A+
    Every outgoing was either needed, necessary or just loan expiring.

    Incomings: C (Room for B+)
    We've signed the right type of players for the most part (Livermore aside) but need more. C for current signings, a few more move this up a grade.

    Contract Renewals: U
    Jesus Christ. Bachmann on a 5 year deal. I could accept a 2 year extension with a view to a longer term plan for the position. But *5*?! And Captain? I just don't see it. I don't think he's bad for the Championship, but this smacks of a lack of ambition
     
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  17. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    The problem is that we've had such a good run with high quality goalkeepers that Bachmann looks worse than he actually is. (Nobody compares to in form Gomes) He also talks a good game but on the pitch comes across as petulant more than commanding in his actions which runs fans up the wrong way.

    I don't think he's a bad character but I think it shouldnt be hard to do a lot better.
     
  18. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    It’s a D/E right now, could well change depending on who comes in but seems increasingly likely we aren’t looking to add much quality

    As it stands we look set to go into the season with a significantly lower cost base but a significantly weaker side

    I too wonder whether Pozzo is looking to clear the debt and sell up
     
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  19. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Outgoings are done and we've had a fairly good window in that respect. A lot of players that should have been toast years ago are out the door.

    We have a full month for incomings. I don't think we're ready for QPR, but then I don't think QPR are ready either. Should be an absolute shambles. Bring it on.
     
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  20. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Doesn't matter if we're ready for QPR tbf, they'll beat us as usual...
     
  21. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    A, for the clear out
    D, for the incomings…so far

    still need 2 strikers, 2 central midfielders and a central defender imo
     
  22. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Are you including Chakvetadze, and if so, what position are you counting him?
     
  23. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    It's got a month until the window closes. How can you grade it yet?
     
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  24. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    You can grade it on current incomings and outgoings so far and the quality / background of recruits. For the most part it's been very productive with most signings being the mould of player you want in your team for this league. (Livermore aside, though could well be a VI specific request to aid the dressing room, backed up by him being in the Leadership Group)

    We still have gaps to fill, and it's disappointing we haven't covered a lot of them before QPR to get them in the Pre-Season training regime because it's integral to how tobut a week is a very long in football, let alone a month.
     
  25. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Pointless grading something that is not even close to be over
     
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  26. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Yes, you don't mark an exam paper halfway through the test.
     
  27. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    You do if the answer is Bachmann. In fact you expel that student from the school for thinking the answer is Bachmann.
     
  28. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    But for project work you typically have ‘formative’ assessment during the project, so the students know how they are doing. ‘Summative’ assessment is done at the end of the project to grade the work.
     
  29. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki Reservist

    Transfer dealings so far.

    Out: B. Not enough players were sold or released.

    In: F. Apart from Lewis, the other loan deals are on players that would struggle in League One or:Two*.
    *Ince is out injured.
    With only a £2m transfer, what did we expect? Pozzo is set to save money.

    Ps: Bachmann on a 5 Yr deal and captain, ludicrous decision. He should have been sold or released.
     
  30. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Oh, that's ok then. As long as he not the absolute, bottom of the barrel "worst", we'll ignore the fact he's painfully average and limited at best - and that's being extremely generous - and a laughable choice as captain as someone who's repeatedly proven himself a petulant, hot headed brat, and somebody who has reportedly tried to get out of the club multiple times.
     
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  31. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Outgoings - very good.

    Incomings - Underwhelming.

    A month to go still. A lot can happen. Will it? Probably not! We are still painfully short in key areas!

    We will be mid table at best.
     
  32. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki Reservist

    Bond, ,Suckling, Arlauskis, Loach, Gilmartin and Poom.
    I would put Bachmann in this group.
    He is a poor Keeper. You have to command your area in the physically tough Championship. He just doesn't do this. He shrinks when the ball is crossed. He first action is to take steps backwards which opens up more space to aim at. He does not shut down the angle.
    We all know that his first verbal call is "away or out". We all heard this so clearly during the covid era.
    Bachmann should have been sold or released during the summer.

    This transfer window has shown us that Manga has had very little influence at the club so far and that Watford FC are almost broke .
    With a transfer budget of just £2m, loan players, the exception being Lewis, will be from mediocre lower league European clubs.
    If and when Ismael fails, it will not matter to Pozzo as it was expected .
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2023
  33. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    Even with him - I still would like 2 more in the mid field tbh - greedy I know, but I still feel we are light in that area
     
  34. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Outgoings - B+

    Very good overall and a lot of the "dead wood" removed. Flip side to this is we have a more threadbare squad and are going to be hampered if any modest amount get injured. With Cathcart, Kabasele. WTE, Cleverley, Hungbo and Sarr gone that's a lot of players who have left who should of been sold/moved on a long time ago. Got some good money for Pedro, a small amount for WTE and around 15M for Sarr. Could of got more for Sarr but we won't go there again.

    Incomings - C

    Impossible to really tell until the new season starts, but Lewis was a good coup out the lot so far. Ince? Oh yeah injured. Welcome to the Watford medical team Tom. See you in March. Livermore seems to be more of a Cleverley replacement, Healy needs games before we can really judge. Getting Martins back on loan could be a good move. Our attack is very weak though, which is the biggest worry moving into the new season. Bayo should be good enough at this level but he needs to put away chances on a more consistent basis. Wonder if we will see more of Baah as the season goes on.
     
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  35. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    A- will upgrade to an A+ with whatever random loan we bundle in.
     

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