That makes sense, but it does seem like a lot of people think that it's a slogan for some kind of vote of confidence - as if an owner can be voted out or overthrown somehow. I think the forever ongoing protests at Man Utd should be pretty good evidence that you can boo at a businessman all you want, but that won't make him sell his property Sadly, as football fans, we don't get to choose our owners, unless football is fundamentally changed, of course - but that's a whole different story.
Harsh but fair ? https://twitter.com/bryansgunn/status/1767267988061704360?s=46&t=KjvQ3rARbGGWVK9k2dUrFA
Thank god Windows has a built in Magnifier Application. Very insightful reading. Things we all knew but it proves the outside world also considers us a circus of a club, with the Ring Master cracking his whip.
He’ll never talk to the *checks screenshot* Chris Dunlavy in the *checks screenshot again* Football League Paper ever again.
Article in the I on the Pozzos and their model damaging the club. https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/watford-pozzo-purgatory-hope-2978547?ITO=newsnow He wrote this about us a few years ago. How times change! https://www.football365.com/news/watford-are-the-club-that-embraced-the-chaos
Just goes to show the absolute circus of a club we have become. We know it, the players' probably know it and so does every other club. Only person who is blind to it is the one person in the top hat in centre ring.
Nothing to learn from that article. Anyone of us could have written it. Mrs TuT could have written it.
Classic fickle nature I guess . Great system and policy worked but after a while that all comes crashing down and goes wrong . Is a Forest fan so will be used to management turn over and chaos!
Nothing to learn for us Watford fans, but much like most news articles, a lot to learn for those who don’t know anything about the subject, like most non Watford fans (the majority of people who will read it).
Yes, sure, though I imagine most footy fans already know the modus operandi of our Pozzo ownership. We haven't exactly been the best kept secret
Not sure if this has been posted here before, but an interesting video of former Sporting Director Luke Dowling and his experiences with Gino:
Thanks - really interesting interview. Surprisingly positive about Gino and his day-to-day involvement in the club. Only real downside was the Italian players going direct to Gino rather than the manager when the manager didn't pick them !
Fair - but an alternate view could be that a Sporting Director who has been employed and fired more than once since leaving us may not be the best barometer to judge Gino by? I’m not sure Watford doing things different in the ‘hands-on ownership’ stakes is really the win that’s being portrayed here given the managerial turnover.
I thought he'd have every reason to criticise given he was fired and was surprised that he seemed genuinely thankful and gave pros as well as the cons. Seemed positive that Gino was 100% focussed on the club and had an office there for a full working day unlike some owners and also that he would leave him in peace after 5.30pm whereas other owners would call 24 hours a day from all over the world. Just found it interesting and more positive than I expected that was all.
I wonder if the most popular comment on this article is still the majority view hence a lack of protesting or outrage at games that others hope to see? https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/s...hire-must-winning-background/#comments-anchor
I was working with a former Watford player this week. Won't name him as i'll get myself in trouble but let's just say he was far from complimentary about the hierarchy. Called Duxbury a C word & said the players openly hated him. Blamed the bonus fiasco after the FA Cup final as the reason for relegation. Said it's a shame because the fans/community are great but '1 or 2 at the top are slimey c-words'. I asked if that's just football, and he said yes to an extent... but Watford was the worst for it he'd experienced.
Yes I've often thought that the bonus fiasco would have been a huge impact on morale. That added to the humiliation in the final, leading to, and then exacerbated by, those first few results laid the foundations for relegation. I wonder how much they saved by not paying out the bonuses. Probably loose change at the time.
Maybe Pozzo didn’t think they deserved them after the cup final display ! Be the sort of thing he’d do probably.
Yep. Player in question said it was 'significant' money they were promised & that some younger players on smaller wages had already spent some of it on things like house deposits. Apparently the wording on the contract stated that it was paid 'at the club's discretion', but apparently this was the only year they didn't pay them because it would have cost the club millions. If my work did that to me, i'd leave within 6 months. It's so short-sighted and probably cost the club millions down the line with relegation.