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Ul Perry, but .......... Ruling!

All very pedantic, but your oppo still hasn't won the hand until he shows the 2nd card in a 'showdown' ...... if he should be inexperienced enough to muck the unshown card (whilst 'Hollywooding' to the imaginary TV cameras) the pot automatically goes to the 'beaten' player opposite (I've often secretly smiled when some young buck comes a cropper of tournament rules whilst copying poker TV showboating ..... they positively squeal with indignation).

Anyway, wp to your oppo PYA his patience was rewarded when the river made sure he'd get paid.

 

he did turn the card but he was opposite end of table to me, u know my eyesight! anyway i didn't look and as it all happens pretty quick was up out of my seat. Bit of a block now in my head but i may even have asked the guy next to me what the other card shown was but cant remember.

I too thought he played the hand well OMR - something i had done similar early doors with the ace of d in my hand when the other guy was also chasing the d flush - in that instance my bet of 400 ( previously checked and checked, but called his 500 and 500 to turn card) after the river hoping an all in would be made, but the twot only called and got damned annoyed when i turned the ace d over beating his qd in a flush hand -why uckin call if you think you had won scum canut, go all in! he's a winker and i have sussed him now.

 

Ooooooooo ..... a bit of praise for Boggy from a Poker Galactico (from last year's GUKPT Main Event HQ leg), Mr Julian Thew;

http://poker.williamhill.com/news-article/tournaments-reviews/luton-ukpt/

The Luton leg of the UKPT was the first big event back on UK soil since Vegas & the WSOP. I headed down on the Monday & was set to play the two hold’em sides & the Main Event. The numbers were good in all the events, it was just a shame that I never got near a final table.

As is often the way with tournaments, I wondered if I should have bothered with the side events as I never really got going in either, A-K getting crushed by K-4 in the 200NL & (rather embarrassingly) virtually blinded out in the 500NL. I decided to skip the Omaha event in the hope that a night off would prove the missing ingredient for the following days main event.

My starting table was ok & I managed to slowly build up from 10k. On one hand I check raised the short-stacked pre flop raiser with 10h-7h on a 9h,6h,4c; he shoved with A-A, I called & the 8h arrived immediately giving me the straight flush. Pretty sweet; players are always looking for signs of an imminent good run & I really thought this could be a great Day 1.

Sitting on 15k in Level 5 I raised to 800 with J-J & both blinds called. I bet 1500 on the 8,6,5 flop & the SB made it 3800. He’d been pretty steady up to this point & right then I think I could have found a fold given the nature of the flop. I decided however, to take a card & fold if he led out on the turn. Well the turn came a jack which meant I was never folding. He led out for 4500, I shoved & he snap called with 7-9 (funnily enough I’d played a short 1-2NL cash session with him the previous afternoon & he’d cracked my K-K with a flopped straight).

"He" - The Bogmaster - did you like a kipper, twice in two days, Thewy!

(I could not possibly slag this guy off, however - one of the 'good guys' in the game ...... and one hell of a player!)

 

Whats happened to OMR & PYA's poker tales?

 

I hate facking pocket aces.

I had KK so raised a little, the other guy called with his AA.

On the flop the cards were: Kc Kd Ad. I raised 2.50 (buy in was £10) opponent raised it to £5 with a full house. I happily called. Then a 9d came up, he then went all in, bluffing a flush I think, but because I had four of a kind I called him! He turned over his Aces, I turned over the Kings.

One way he could beat me on the river was for an ace to come up, and guess what a ****ing Ac came up!

 

You had quad Kings and he got quad Aces!?

 

Bologna 2-0 up after 15 mins.

 

Yup. Never seen anything like it in my life :doh:

 

I'll ask the (rhetorical) question .... I presume this was on the internet?

It's OK .... I know the answer!

Now, it is stories like this that convince the 'live poker player' what a complete and utter load of old bollox the internet 'offering' really is!

The maths;

Pre-flop your KK is an 82% dog.

On the flop your hand is 95.55% favourite.

By the turn your hand has gone to 97.72% favourite.

There is now a 2.27% chance of the Ace landing on the river ...... nigh on a fifty to one shot!

In all the donkeys years I've been playing, I've only ever seen quads against quads maybe three times .... and certainly never AAAA v KKKK.

These sorts of 'ridiculous hands' are fairly unremarkable on the internet .... Random Number Generators, my phuqqin arse!

So ..... do treat the internet with extreme caution - it's poker, but not as we know it.

Talking of treats .....

Up at HQ the other week a very attractive girlie arrived with the 'SKY crowd' and we were asked to look after her by the TV mob because she was new to poker.

A lovely lass, good laugh, fabulous **** who looked 'vaguely familiar'.

Well Catherine was a bit evasive about what she did for a living, to which I commented, "that usually means you do lap dancing/glam modelling - don't worry girl ... you're probably earning a darn sight more than half of us round this table".

She just smiled demurely, and we carried on having the craic (with most the table's eyes firmly fixed on her ample cleavage ..... all looking for a 'tell', obviously).

When Cath eventually got knocked out (believe me, all and sundry were desperately trying to keep her in) she whispered, "Google Kitty Lea when you next get a chance".

And here she is, in all her finery;

http://www.kitty-lea.com/

Who wants to stare at PYA across the baize whilst Kitty's in the house?

Not phuqqin me!

 

Aaaaarrrrggghhhhhh - the dreaded Jacks ........

Playing online (yuk) in the Pokerstars $1 million Turb Takedown yesterday that hand (JJ pre-flop) did me, like a kipper!

Having got down to the 'last' 5,300 (over 18,000 fools entered) I get dealt The Filthy Knaves in late position ..... with the money starting at places 5,000, and upwards.

Well, I wasn't really that desperate to limp into the dough as $78 wasn't exactly life-changing money .... not with a first prize of $60k, and a brand new Audi TT thrown in for good measure.

I always disregard others doom and gloom surrounding JJ ..... it is afterall the fourth best starting hand pre-flop.

Invariably, I tend to push it all-in - if the betting remains unopened before my action - and put 'the decision' on those behind.

Anyway, the guy to my immediate left snap calls .... mmmmm, maybe I'm in trouble?

The BB dwells, then hits the 'request more time button', and eventually (reluctantly?) calls ...... good, he cannot be that strong?

Over they go;

Insta-calla 4 4 .... eh?

Dwell Man A 10 .... only three outs to hit (reasonably happy!)

The flop;

Q Q 2 .... nice (78% favourite).

The Turn;

7 .... nothing connecting, no flush possiblities - it's looking good (88% fav).

The River;

A .... in true internet nonsense style the 17/1 against shot 'hits'.

And it's goodbye to dreams of a big fat wad, and driving a car aimed at the feeble of mind, and in need of Viagra!

Internet poker ...... not my cup of tea.

Here's how ridiculous it really is - Pokerstars, a starting field of over 18k reduced to 5.5k in two and a half phuqqin hours, and all over in five hours.

The World Series of Poker - 8k entrants eventually whittles down to a winner after 9+ days of actual play at twelve hours a day ...... mind you, the first prize of between $7 and 10 million is the reward for playing the real stuff - not to be sniffed at!

Some people look amazed when I comment that real and on-line poker are indeed two completely different games - and should be treated as such.

 

you hurt me feeling there OMR - i had Cath on my table at the sportsman, everyone clapped and cheered and i got arested

Keeping a spreadsheet this year of poker activity - still haven't dabbled in the cyber nonsense and still actually don't fancy the idea.

The live tournies are going quite well and am very slightly ahead after 36 tournies - this is good as if i play saturday night i miss the away match and use the dosh instead -double whammy.

The pocket J's - i play all in most of the time with them during rebuys - as you say 4th highest hand - shame to waste an opportunity - if someone else gets the 3rd and upwards hand good luck to em - -jj gets beat but so does aa.

Was a lil unlucky aturday when i got pocket a's 7 left prize dosh down to 4th but was low stacked with bb1600 sb800. I only had 5,300 and hummed and harred about just flat calling but in the end said sod it and threw the lot in hoping someone would think i aint got too much- no canut called and i was lowest chip stack but got a free bb,sb. So an opportunity to double up lost ( if i had 11k i would have likely got to the money as 3 players were itching to go and one more low stacked). a hand or two later a,k suited - player min raises to 3.2k i go all in he calls - he shows pocket 8's i say nice wish i had em - nothing comes up he wins i go home.

There was a party of geezers in for a stag night from amersham or such like place - good bunch of lads but kin useless and got kin bollixed - good prey for the locals.

 

one for OMR - what would you have done....

£50 freeze out 5k chips and £5 for 1k more chips of which this fund goes to the dealers ( no tips required from winnings

Me table 4 seat 3 so first BB 50 sb 25. 25 min session to next limit.

First hand - one bet of 275 ( i know the player, loose but far from stupid, pushes) all fold i call with pocket 7's.
Flop a, q. q - I check, he bets 1,650. My view is its not worth a second thought wasted 225 chips ( cheap enough to not be bothered at seeing the flop) - Folded with a lapse of time and a smile thinking maybe could have folded pre flop.

Second hand - I is SB... First two players fold, next player goes in 350 - all fold to me, i raise to 700 with A,K os ( this player is also very loose and a chancer, a gambler) BB folds opponent calls.

Flop q,10,5 rainbow

I check, opponent puts in 500 - hmmm, not a big bet, fishing?, has a smal pair? has hit but doesn't now what i got? Does one fold and move on or call to see the turn with a fold if no hit of a,k or j if oppo bets?

So the bear calls with the a,k for 500 more in for 1,200. ( leaving me 4,525 for the tournie if needs are to fold from a starting stac of 6k)

Turn j - i check, oppo goes all in - yee uckin hoo "CALL" to numurous spurts of wow, jeessuuss and the oppo saying " what the uck you got?" as he laid down q,10 for two pairs with just the river card left - he has 4 outs and i got all his chips in the middle with the nuts run....:dismayON!

You know the result OMR - my question is was any part of my play wrong? Should i have raised pre flop more? at that stage i was testing his hand and he called with q,10. I was pretty confident even on the flop for the 500 was a cheap one off call if i didn't hit.

 

so playing at the Mint on saturday night a small turnout for a 100 squid freezeout saw 10 runners. One more may have joined but wasn't too happy about the cost and the fact he had been up to the Gala Looton the night before and got a bollo.cking from one of the resident locals. So he ucked off to teh value gaming area of roulette and black jack and teh bright machines that spin around and around.

So the ten were made up of -

me, me brother, john the taxi driver, Steve the architect, the dude who won it last saturday ( apparently plays for qpr) a Polish chancer/gambler, another foreigner, a young lad with some trap but wasn't annoying as such, someone else and last but not least - "This is my first time playing" indian guy - very nice bloke.

So up to level three 200/100 blinds - (and the very nice Indian man is doing very nicley having gone all in previously with a call holding only an A & 8 os whilst the bettor showed a pair, the very nice Indian man hits an ace and takes a nice stack and adios to one. He lost a couple of hands agian with nothing when calling). PYA then BB - first player calls the 200 fold the very nice Indian man calls, one otehr calls the others folds to me, i raise to 1k as there are too many in for my pocket 9's. The young lad calls, the evry nice Indian man calls and the other folds. Flop 8,7,3 rainbow - hmmmmm - a quick all in from me and really there was no reason for either to call i thought the young lad would have over cards thinking i hit trips and he did indeed fold One down and just the very nice Indian man left in, please call i was thinking to myself ( with his pevious calls i was getting value for sure even if i lost) - call - I proudly drop my pocket 9's onto the table ( he had my chip count covered) and places his cards neatly down - pocket k's ( uck it,never had him in a million years on an over pair) - turn card 6 - well gave me a few more outs than just one of two 9's. River -

hey ho hit the straight with a 10 - Friday nights blues turn to saturday night cheers - I went on and won the tournie.

So for two nights i mis read what the chancer/ gambler and newbie had in hand - it's a funny ol game.

 

Mmmmmmmm ..... you've done nothing wrong Perry.

You've re-raised pre-flop with (a hand I don't particularly like/trust .... the most overplayed hand in poker) AK - but still, good strong play.

The only trouble is, the flop has hit the Villain smack in the face (two pair against your drawing gutshot is an 82% favourite) .... he's never likely to fold ..... thus he leads out with the 'value bet' of 500, into the pot of 1,450 (he's 'bet/trapping' you .... hoping you're on a big pair/A Q etc)

This might have been the time to put the brakes on this early in this comp, and get the phuqq out of it.

However with two over-cards and a gutshot for the nut straight 500 is often (thought to be) worth a look .... the Villain has 'priced it' just right, you're hooked!

You get lucky on the turn - the Villain becomes a 91% dog.

Then the oppo goes all in ........ and the Bear is in Poker Heaven.

Unfortunately, the Poker Gods decide to screw you - the Laws of Maths/Stats/Probability are cruelly cast to the wind as the 1/9 favourite stumbles and falls on the run in, with the winning post in sight.

Neither player has played it badly - Lady Luck bounced about worse than a pinball during this hand .... you both got lucky, then very unlucky, at various stages as it developed!

However the real lesson to be learned, Dearest Bear - from the two hands quoted - is to regard these tournament players with care .... they are a phuqqin car crash just waiting to happen!

Hand 1 - the guy 'opens' for 275 .... 5.5 times the Big Blind (maybe rather expensive .... but the guy is no 'mug' according to your account) - therefore his raise should be respected, and a confrontation avoided.

Hand 2 - the Villain 'opens' an unopened round of betting for 350 .... 7 times the Big Blind (WTF?)

Now consider .... what is the Villain trying to 'achieve' in the first round of this Comp?

Did he want a call?

At seven times the BB, I seriously doubt it .....

So why is he risking 350 chips (with a decidely average hand) ..... and then flatting the re-raise - to nick some tiny blinds totalling 75!

Awful play by a bad player ..... the guy is playing Final Table poker - and the comp has only just begun!

I see this sort of s h i t play week in, week out - guys going to war to win a battle ..... they don't appreciate that you go to battle to win the war!

It's all about getting to the Final Table (where the money is!) - but they play Final Table poker before they've ever got there ..... most never see the latter stages of a comp - they're considered the 'dead money' by the better players.

TV and the internet have a lot to answer for with these muppets - how they end up playing live (often at buy-ins way above their level, where there are plenty of good/experienced vultures just waiting to pounce, and exploit) without ever doing their 'apprenticeship' in the rookie comps, is beyond me.

Opening pots with big bets and 'optimistic cards', early on, is usually a recipe for disaster - players end up 'fishing' for cards whilst eyeing the (ridiculous) size of the pot .... and then rue the day they ever did!

Early doors good players will raise 2.5/3 times the BB - when there's crumbs in the pot - even with AA (go all-in? The rest of the table will laugh and fold as you collect your reward of 75!) so as not to be committed if several players call ........ it gives them a chance to 'get away cheaply' if the flop does a dirty on them.

What's the point in having AA against three opponents on a K K 10 flop when you've built a decent pre-flop pot, and your continuation bet gets flat called/re-raised by a smiling opponent?

Treat the Tournament as a campaign, and work at winning a series of battles to build up the momentum for the deciding confrontation.

Avoid going to war (wherever possible) when there's not much to win!

 

Great summary OMR - interesting stuff about not going to war, but just into battle. Over my apprenticeship - i have clamed right down from the bull fight mentally of red flag waving with all ins, do or die that I was taught was good play at PADDINGTON.

My brotheris a very tight player, goes for the battles, folds great hands and also hands that he thinks were possibly winning just to avoid the "confrontation of battle, to live or die" until needs be or he is in the dosh - his problem that we discuss is he finds hnself often on the final table, but low stack - he then gets pushed about, bullied and ucked over by the big stackers. As he said to me the other day " P - I rarely win outright and my stacks mean I do a deal".

I then say to him that a geezer i know has taught me a lot about pushing, be strong and sometimes having to take a plunge in order to get the stack up at certain times - giving yourself the best chance of wining the tournie even if it means losing ( you highlighted that in a thread once and it has stuck) Nothing worse than sitting all night long throwing away hands to be knocked out one or two places outsdie the dosh becuae of short stack.

The Mint has re opened in Cronwell Road - looks nice has 8 or 9 tables and cash games. The tournies are winnable, very winnable for likes of myself and my brother and a few other regulars and after its been open for a few weeks again sure they will get a god amount of runners per tournie.

The Sportsman has lost all its trade from pre xmas with only the Thrusday night £k guarnatee attracking about 20 players - agian - a good tounie for my standard and have picked up some winnings there now after a slow (learning) start.

Any biigish events being held in looton in the coming months - may see if my brother fancies a trip up, we are talking about a trip to europe for a poker event sometime.

 

The GUKPT doesn't hit Luton till August Perry - but, something there for all sized wallets;

Fri 6 Aug at 7.30 pm £ 50 Super Satellite to Main Event Rebuy
Sat 7 Aug at 7.30 pm £ 150 + 15 No Limit Hold'em
Sun 8 - Mon 9 Aug at 7.30 pm £ 100 + 10 No Limit Hold'em Rebuy – Day 1
Mon 9 Aug at 2.00 pm £100 Rebuy Day 2
Mon 9 - Tue 10 Aug at 7.30 pm £ 200 + 20 No Limit Hold'em Day 1
Tue 10 Aug at 2.00 pm £200 Freezeout Day 2
Tue 10 - Wed 11 Aug at 7.30 pm £ 500 + 50 No Limit Hold'em Day 1
Wed 11 Aug at 2.00 pm £500 Freezeout Day 2
Wed 11 Aug at 6.00 pm £ 300 + 30 Pot Limit Omaha Double Chance
Wed 11 Aug at 8.30 pm £ 150 + 15 Super Satellite to Main Event
Thu 12 - Sun 15 Aug at 2.00 pm £ 1,000 + 70 No limit Hold'em - Main Event Day 1a
Thu 12 Aug at 7.30 pm £ 100 + 10 No Limit Hold'em
Fri 13 Aug at 2.00 pm Main Event - Day 1b
Fri 13 Aug at 7.30 pm £ 100 + 10 No Limit Hold'em
Sat 14 Aug at 2.00 pm Main Event - Day 2
Sat 14 Aug at 2.30 pm £ 60 Super Satellite to Grand Final Rebuy
Sat 14 Aug at 7.30 pm £ 300 + 30 No Limit Hold'em Day 1
Sun 15 Aug at 2.00 pm Main Event - Day 3
Sun 15 Aug at 2.00 pm £300 Freezeout Day 2
Sun 15 Aug at 3.00 pm £ 250 + 25 No Limit Hold'em Bounty Tournament


It's weird that for a city the size of London (bar the GUKPT stop-offs at The Vic/the WSOPE and the EPT) there really aren't any 'big poker tournaments' held in the capital ..... but I think in years to come there will be more.

As for Europe there's a Festival going on most weeks somewhere all year round;

May ... for example:-

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=l&r=&f=0&d=01&m=05&y=2010&c=2

 

I'm gald you said "all sized wallets" - would walleys be appropriate?

Ok the list looks kind of welcoming so i have approx three months to increase my profits from the london tournies thus far to bung into your "wallet":dismay:

Shall i pop down the Mint tonight for the £30 rebuy - they go bananas so the pot gets good ( if there is a turnout) may be worth the entry and a tight first session.

It is inded strange how the poker circuit here is pretty crap - th vic is busy( i don't go there) western not been there, old street not been there - but the casinos aren't really going for it - or are just shabby efforts. The Mint may have taken a step forward though done it uo fairly nice and once they ahve it more organised again it may be a good regular venue.

Whats the Reading card room like?

 

There you go loads more info ..... FOC.

 

cheers for all that stuff omr - will study that lot during the week/weekend...

crap game last night started late due to people not knowing what they were doing, small amount of runners and no oomph to proceedings. was more interested in the Robins getting through to be honest. Kicking myself at not laying the under 5 points bookings on betfair:forehead: had my bet up at a cheeky rate not matched.

How's your tournies doing any good stories of late - good wins?

 

I haven't been playing much this month PYA .... the only results being a third in a run of the mill regular comp, and winning a smallish Omaha tourny at the beginning of May.

One of the reasons being a £100 entry fee tourny I entered the other week ..... I'm still fuming!

Now, I had a similar scenario to one of your recent posts .... the difference being I had the 'goods' already in the hole.

Blinds 25/50 - a mass limpathon broke out with six of the ten players flat calling my Big Blind .... pot 325.

I look down at AA staring me in the face.

Now this field needed thinning out - Aces are in mortal danger against that many opponents (never, ever, flat call in this position .... you'll get Royally screwed).

A pot sized bet (325) got rid of the first two, and a re-raise to 700 by a Villain in third postion cleared the rest of the flotsam .... and the action was back to me.

Mmmmmmm ..... how to get most of this fellah's chips in the middle pre without scaring him away!

We both had our starting stack of 10k (give or take a chip) so I 'gently' raised another 550.

Villain re-raises another 750.

"Got him .... he must have Kings, possibly Queens", Boggy muses, and - with the pot owing me 2k, and totalling 4,225, it was time to put the pressure on.

Another 3k on top cleared his sinuses, and his discomfort was obvious .... he flat calls (wtf?) ..... but I've got half his stack in the middle already - happy days!

Flop J 10 2 rainbow ..... Villain pushes all in.

I went into the tank ..... I must be ahead, surely ..... would this fool call off half his stack pre with Jacks - at 25/50? ..... this was a hundred pound tournament - meant to be for the 'better players', a bit above the range of the newbie/donk ..... downside - I'd never seen this fellah before!

The rest of the table looked on intrigued ..... most 'knew' - from my betting pattern - that I was on Aces or Kings, and were just waiting for me to pull the trigger.

"Unless I've got very unlucky against someone overplaying Jacks I should be in good shape here ... I call", was the fateful Bogmeister declaration.

My jaw hit the floor a milli-second after those of the other players at the table, as the mug turned over 10 10!

No dramatic runner runner saved me and the disbelief around the table turned to utter shock as the Villain anounced, "I put you on A K."

The rest of the table burst out laughing and I replied, "Your keen appreciation of the game must come in very handy in all those five pound re-buy comps at your local snooker hall ..... you'll be alright!"

Now I know that everyone says, "You want these players in the hand" ..... but it hurts like hell when they get lucky!

Obviously the Villain got nowhere near the Final Table ...... when you can't figure out that you might be in a wee spot of bother when you've just been 'five bet' pre-flop - you're hardly likely to!

But .... why me?

Lol - "It's a funny old game", as Greavsie used to say!

 

Yes, thats an ouch!

I find if i have had that scenario ( ish) the best remedy is to get staright back in the next day and get it off your chest.. has worked once or twice for me.

On the other hand is it a sign of the dreaded 'baron spell', where uck all goes your way for a while... until bingo! so a break is good.

Of to the Mint again tonight £40 1 rebuy and add on. Meeting me bruv and had a bet on over 4 yellows in the wall match.

Waterford tournie looks quite good as its me bruvs birthday then. Hmmmmm pre season tour or poker? i'll need to think about that one, not!

 

Well the WSOP is under way - and our boys are off to a good start;

Event #5 the $1,5000 NLHE .... Trap 1.

1st Praz Bansi $515,501

Event #6 - $5,000 No Limit Hold’em Shootout ..... 2nd & 3rd.

2nd Neil Channing -- $273,153
3rd Stuart Rutter -- $179,617

Event #9

PYA, your old mate James Dempsey makes the Final Table with 2nd highest chips (528,000) of the last nine.

Get in there you Brits ...........

 

Event #9 - James Dempsey takes the bracelet and pockets a very tidy first prize of $197,470.

 

and was he effin and blinding? good luck to any one who get to that stage -

had me spill at the sportsman - last night guaranteed 1k -they would only guarantee if they had a starting 9 players (£50 one rebuy or add on). At Kick off time we had about 6 registered so waited 15 minutes or so when eventually got up to 11. 6 minutes to go on the the third level ( level before the break) 10 uckin scum canut camwel shaggers from dubai walk in, 4 are let in to the game. 6 seconds to end of level ( last hand dealt) two others wanted to join in having been told they couldn't but were asked earlier when the others joined in but declined - ended up they let them in. So they have 5k chips less 600 to put into pot for the first hand and they can add on for £50 for another 5k - so they can have 9.4k to start the second session when some who turned up and waited had already rebought and down to 2k stacks who may not have rebought with 17 runners and not 11 - uckin scandulous. So if we had all waited until 6 minutes before the break of level three would there have been a game started? uckin scum canuts... football I'm coming home!

So had the game started on time these scum uckin barsteward dirty camel humping scum canuts wouldn't have got a game and I woudln't have got the hump. I didn't add on and gave my chips in an all in to a sort of mate on the forst hand of restart who went all in after a dirtyscum camel humper was gambling by shoving. I had a,10 suited me mate had K's the camel ucker folded...
Far too badly organised there on a saturday and ucking idiots who don't know what there doing running it.

I think it may be time to step up a level and go to Old street amongst the real geezers and better players....

The next learning curve.

 

Sod that Perry, bad club - definitely time to move on ..... they would get lynched if they tried that bollox at a Grosvenor Casino, or any decent Poker Club.

The next level in your poker apprenticeship has to be your local club;

http://www.theintclub.com/

Never played there myself - yet - but I know a few that do .... good, well run, well attended club - standard is (apparently) excellent.

You'll soon find that playing against better players in decent sized fields will improve your game. It's actually a lot easier to play against the experienced, better, player - they will assess the dangers/draws/maths in nano seconds and will often pass in situations they don't 'fancy' .... whereas a blissfully unaware Numbnut will plunge in for the 'miracle card' (and often hit).

Wherever you get good clubs you tend to get good players - and it permeates down and throughout the whole playerbase of the club.

At HQ there are people who play at the lower levels that have 'learnt well' from the top players .,.... I'm not joking when I say that some of the crowd that only play the £5 re-buy, or the £30 tournaments, have a better understanding of the game than players I've encountered at other venues who are playing £100 to £250 buy in tournies!

So get your backside off down to a proper poker venue .... you find it makes sense.

 

Cheers for that summary OMT - actually needed to hear something like that as playing at the Mint and Sportsman is now a comfort zone.

I ned to get to that better level.

Off to Poland tomorrow for two weeks, so on the return will sign up to Old Street. Easier journey home as well I think.

cheers

 

Have a nice holiday mate.

Plus ............ they're mad for poker in Poland;

After Dark Poker Club
Warsaw
Waliców 9, 00-851 Warszawa, Poland
Tel. 48 22 654-67-67

Hyatt Regency Hotel (Casino with poker room in the gaffe), 23 Belwederska Avenue, Warsaw
Tel. (+48.22) 559 14 56 / 559

Get a game in whilst you're there ..... bring the zlotys home (make a phuqqin change for the filthy lucre to be flowing in the opposite direction!)

 

Just a general question. Do you ever worry during a hand about your kicker?. For example if you have A5, and on the flop, an Ace comes down and there is no chance of a straight or flush, and someone else is going gung ho, should you think about your kicker?. Knowing if the other guy has an ace, aswell he will more then likely have a better kicker,or do you just go for it?

 

Good question ..... easy answer.

Unless you're down to the last four of the final table of the tournament, hands like A 5 shouldn't really be played .... they'll generally get you in a world of pain.

I often chuck A 10/A J (with no re-draws) in the bin on an Ace high flop with an oppo getting busy.

Don't put your tournament life on the line with Ace rag type hands .....

Even if you've got a decent kicker - who's to say your oppo isn't betting out having hit two pair, or even trips?

Get the basics right ..... play 'premium hands' well, and aggressively - loose play with mediocre hands will get you nowhere, fast.

 

And the Brit (well it's been all English guys really) success continues at the WSOP in Vegas.

Event 17# - 2nd & 8th

Sam Trickett has finished second for $505,000.
Paul Foltyn also finished 8th.

 

And the titles keep coming ...... a third Englishman wins in the 2010 WSOP.

Richard Ashby wins the $1,500 buy-in Seven-Card Stud tournament pocketing $140,467.

And he comes from ............ Watford!

 

James Dempsey - going for his 2nd bracelet of this Series - currently heads up with Sammy Farha in Event# 25 the $10k Omaha hi/lo.

From the Pokerlistings blog, as Dempsey was getting lowstacked - "Then he came storming back, bolstered by a chorus of "He's the doctor" ....... The announcer actually kicked two of the English fans out of the arena a moment ago" ...... waaaaahey!

Sod the dreary boredom of the World Cup - the World Series of Poker is underway ....... and not a bleeding trumpet in sight/earshot!

Blinds currently: 180,000-360,000

Sammy Farha 3,280,000
James Dempsey 3,080,000

 

Dempsey has to settled for 2nd place ....... I'm sure the $301,790 he picked up was some consolation.