Paulinho

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by THT81, Jun 22, 2015.

  1. THT81

    THT81 Squad Player

    Last edited: Jun 22, 2015
  2. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I will never trust the word of a man named 'Gianluca'.
     
  3. willia6691

    willia6691 Reservist

    My word iv just picked this up on Twitter too! It'd be off the scale
     
  4. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Hopefully no problem persuading him seeing as his mate Gomes is here.
     
  5. simms

    simms vBookie

    Gomes is friends with Sandro too I think. He was with him in a picture on his twitter.
     
  6. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    And what will his wage demands be ?
     
  7. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Dunno.
     
  8. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    One of my favourite moments of last season

    [video=youtube;rN5MgY6QK_Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN5MgY6QK_Q[/video]
     
  9. foxywfc

    foxywfc Reservist

    Anymore news on flamini or was that just paper talk
     
  10. AngelHornet

    AngelHornet Reservist

    Probably a loan and we will pay a percentage
     
  11. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Love the reaction of the fans. Literally stunned as to how a professional player can do that. Brilliant stuff.
     
  12. This seems crazy stupid. Ill advised to part with so much of our budget for one player, however good. Unless he has some incredible clause in his contract to go cheaply should Spurs not play him, Levy is not going to part with him cheaply.

    Loan at best, I would hope.
     
  13. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    You let Gino do the worrying about the finances. I'm interested as to how you know what our budget is though?
     
  14. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Far be it from me to cast aspersions on Paulinho's fundamental talent, and I'm fully aware that sometimes certain teams/managers and certain players just don't work out for whatever reason, regardless of ability, however, could we really say that Paulinho has ever proven himself particularly competent in a major league/english football?

    I'm absolutely not losing perspective, I appreciate Paulinho is a Brazil international and we are Watford etc etc, but I am inclined to agree with those above me who express concern over the inevitable cost when compared to the potential impact. He is a central midfielder, but he is in reality more attacking than defensive, and was known expressly as a goalscoring Yaya Toure-lite when at Corinthians.

    If we did bring him in, we'd still need to bring in another defensive midfielder, and when we assess him as a potential transfer can we really say from the weight of his experience in the English game up to this point that he is likely to be a success; particularly when operating in a team in the lower half of the table/aiming originally to stave off the threat of relegation?
     
  15. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    According to the interweb, he's on at least 70 k.
     
  16. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Rather Stambouli, if it happens to be a choice between the two.
     
  17. simms

    simms vBookie

    I'd agree. Stambouli would be better value for money also.
     
  18. I don't. But whatever the budget is, Levy's asking price for Paulinho is going to represent a large slice of it, if we are to stay within the financial regulations, it'll be a heck of a chunk of it (he cost Spurs £17m less than two years ago); if he's to be bought, it is likely to be worth the purchase of two or three decent players, and the same if he were loaned (thinking of international loans).

    It is clear he's going to cost a bit, and I think this forum is the place for fans to discuss that.

    Happy to let Gino take the strain, but very happy to discuss what he's taking the strain over too.
     
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2015
  19. Prem financial regulations (ie not Europa / CL) are looser than a very loose thing

    QPR manage to pass them, I doubt Gino will fail
     
  20. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Given that Godfather has proved to us that all Brazilian second tier sides would beat Stoke and Swansea, if this chap once played for Corinthians he must be off the scale.
     
  21. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Has the Pozzo scouting network ever found a star in the German version of the Conference? If they haven't then maybe the network isn't as good as we thought because that league is teeming with Premier League quality players.
     
  22. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    He was brilliant in the last World Cup, I'm not worried about he is proven or not. He is very good.

    ...and with the wages we are saving on the 50/50 sellers, he'll be affordable.:naughty:
     
  23. magic

    magic Statto & Vordamen's lovechild

    I'd imagine that any deal would be a load with a view to a permanent move next summer for a set fee.

    He has not had a good time at spurs but the guy does have ability and just needs a move.
     
  24. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    We might need to sack the program sellers too for this one. A sacrifice for the good of the club though.
     
  25. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    The kind of player we need as well. In Watson, Tozser and Guedioura we have three midfielders who can all get forward and make things happen. If we're going to 4231 then we need a destroyer like Stambouli or Badu.
     
  26. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    A player whose done next to f**k all for his club, but has some ability?

    Sign him up. Has "Watford-esque" signing written all over it. Marlon King was in Forest's reserves when we got him....
     
  27. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    That's interesting, I thought he had a rather awful World Cup, and has, along with several other players involved on that fateful night, had huge troubles recovering in the wake of it.

    He only completed 90 minutes once in the competition, remaining on the bench for the entire round of 16 match against Chile, and only came on at half time against Germany (not that those who started entirely covered themselves in glory...)

    This is Zico writing on their travails during the group stages, and laying a fair amount of the blame at the door of Paulinho's lack of form and confidence for the national team: http://www.theguardian.com/football...o-world-cup-2014-zico-mexico-cameroon-group-a

    Since Dunga took over in the wake of the defeats against Germany and the Netherlands, he hasn't been called up to a squad. He played less than 500 minutes for Spurs in the subsequent season, and now is rumoured to be part of a mass clear out.

    He is obviously a talented player, but he is in a prolonged period of notably poor form, and hasn't shown any signs of recovery yet. I think that it would be a gamble given the expenditure that would be involved, and we don't have much evidence at this point in time that he can prosper in English football. Perhaps he just hasn't settled over here, I have no idea, but using all the information available to me at this time, I'm slightly doubtful that he would represent an intelligent buy for our club.

    If he somehow joins and becomes our best player, then that'll be great and I'll be prepared to have this quoted back at me ad nauseam, and again I'd stress that I think he's a good player; I don't, however, think that he is the right player for us, nor would this necessarily be the right time for us to get him.
     
  28. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Worth a loan with the right to buy I think. The key is Flores and the football he wants us to play, Paulinho could conceivably return to form if our style suits him.
     
  29. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    If we could nab him for cheap he does seem like a very Pozzo signing. Obviously has talent and might just need the right club to flourish at.

    However, Spurs fans' reviews of him are uncomplimentary, to say the least.
     
  30. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    You are right, my apologies, it was actually the Confederation Cup that I thought he was brilliant in (hey, doesn't time fly).
     
  31. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Five minutes and they're on your back "Spurs fans", how surprising.
     
  32. Nnnn

    Nnnn First Team

    Unfortunately Levy never sells on the cheap. Just the thought of making a loss on a player makes him feel physically sick.
     
  33. Godfather

    Godfather bricklayer extraordinaire

    Normally true but FFP has changed the landscape somewhat, he may now need to free up wages for the next batch of expensive flops.
     
  34. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    Lol. FFP
     
  35. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Fair, hah, yeah, I remember the Brazil team in that tournament, looked like they were gearing up to sweep aside all opposition at their World Cup the following year, what an odd and random game it is!
     

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