[RUMOUR] Keane Lewis-potter

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Carpster, Jun 23, 2022.

  1. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Do you fact check anything???
     
  2. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    You are just lapping your whatever duxbury tells you.

    The point is a simple one. On field success is not everything. Surely even you can agree on this. Which is why I am asking to see where we are in 3 years with our largely valueless squad, contract commitments and large external debt.

    With regard to Pompey If you think that on field success trumps any financial peril then I don’t know what to say. Not much point in us continuing to discuss. I’m not getting into a 50 post back and forth like you had with Nath this week.
     
  3. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    No not really - but clearly you dont either. Everybody on here assumes a lot (in both directions) and then takes supposition as fact (in both directions)

    i have no problem with that (in either direction) but i do have a problem with tone (in both directions)

    always happy to have a debate, just without the name calling
     
  4. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Am I? How so? I'm making up my mind based on what I've seen both on and off the pitch.

    On field success is not everything, but I've thoroughly enjoyed the past decade even if it means we've got £50m/£whatever debt. I'm sorry you haven't enjoyed it.

    I didn't say it trumps everything, I asked if you think Pompey fans would trade their success? Do you?
     
  5. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I just fact checked and replied?
     
  6. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Sorry I’m not engaging. I read the ridiculous back and forth you had with Nath and not up for the tedium. My point was simple. If we are in a good spot in 3 years (assuming no promotion) them I am wrong. Leave it at that.

    Have the last word then claim whatever victory you wish.
     
  7. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    You already said that.

    Are you in a bad mood? You're usually good for a decent debate, and I didn't think this was anything other than that? No name calling or silliness? Apologies if it came across in any way other than that!
     
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  8. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Yes I’m in a **** mood today. Apologies let’s pick up tomorrow.
     
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  9. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    My god you really are dull, do you have to infect every single thread with this? If you want to keep banging on about the finances do it on the finances thread, this is tranfers and relates to Keane Lewis Potter.

    Just give it rest, or, as you once suggested to another reasonable poster, 'go tell you mates down the pub'.
     
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  10. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Well that’s made me feel better.

    A) threads move on from initial topic
    B) we’ve (maybe) made a lowball bid for this chap so I wouldn’t keep your hopes up we are signing him.
    C) our finances “infect” everything we try to achieve so is pretty much relevant in everything except the new kit threads.
     
  11. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    You fact checked that we make pointless bids for players we have no real intention of buying ? In 30 mins ?

    ffs
     
  12. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Fact checked that West Ham bought every player via one agent. One year sample admittedly but vast amount of fees last year not with that guy.

    I must be going mad or it seems like people can no longer follow flows of threads anymore.
     
  13. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Yes we are all thick and you are super intelligent

    sleep off your bad mood
     
  14. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    I understand your feelings but:

    A) they do and it used to be into things like cheese, classic/little known band tracks, helpful gardening hints etc... now it is debt and Mogi Bayat every time, usually by you.
    B) that is part of negotiation, if we value a player lower than the other club it may p!ss them off but you start low and work from there or just simply have your own limit.
    C) agreed they do, however, there is little we can do to influence that and constantly banging on about it without current detailed information doesn't add value. Those discussions should be had in the finance thread, not every thread. Ditto Mogi Bayat.

    I used to quite enjoy your posts but you seem to have had the blinkers on subject wise and have resorted to unnecessary swipes at people who don't deserve it for a while and it takes away from some of the genuine things you do say.

    Happy enough if you think I'm **** but this should be an enjoyable place for people with a mutual interest to come together and chat **** in good faith and it hasn't been recently.
     
  15. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    State of this thread .
     
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  16. WatfordÉire

    WatfordÉire Squad Player

    come on watford
     
  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    The last time Jumbolina was good for a decent debate was about 2-3 years ago. He used to be a decent poster, but has seemingly been in a "bad mood" constantly ever since.
     
  18. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yeah but that's irrelevant to whether or not they behave like absolutely manipulative babies, using GT, Luther and others to paper over an abysmal PR operation for the past 4 years.

    Success on the pitch doesn't mask the fact that IMO they are completely capable of seeding stories to placate the loyal podcaster minions to try and quell discontent from the wider fanbase.
     
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  19. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Boris has apologised and drawn a line under it. Let's move on.
     
  20. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Reservist

    The cheese threads were a deliberate attempt to quell the moaners and trolls that kept peppering posts in a deliberate attempt to start arguments. Quite enjoyed them if I'm honest. I wish someone would Brie ing them back
     
  21. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    I've had plenty of decent debates with Jumbo in the last couple of years to be fair
     
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  22. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Don't pay adequate tribute to Luther and they're bastards, pay tribute to Luther and they're bastards. Can't win!

    I'm sure they're capable, just not sure why they'd be arsed. If Watford fans were of a mind to protest, I'm not sure an Athletic article about us maybe making a bid for a player 5% of the fanbase has heard of would do anything to stop that
     
  23. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    Moyes has lessened Salthouse’s influence as I understand but agents influences on clubs and transfers goes beyond just the players they sign…
     
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  24. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    The debt is £139m as of the last figures, with a large portion of that external. To be quite honest, I have no idea how much trouble that puts us in long-term, whether it means we'll do a Portsmouth or just go back to being a mediocre Championship club again, but I don't think it's a fair comparison when Portsmouth actually won a trophy and got into Europe
     
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  25. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think their behaviour towards Luther is dastardly frankly. They treated him like **** and then tried to ambush him with a PR release that they hadn't told him about at all. It's not quite the "they can't win" situation you portray. They could win by not treating him with contempt and referencing GT's values whenever they need to cover over something that is the complete antithesis of it.

    I'm not saying I want Luther to run our club, but if you've spent 2 minutes in the man's company, he's fundamentally decent and Watford to the core. The fact that he doesn't see eye to eye with Dux and co tells us a lot.

    I think you have a reasonable perspective on the whole, but I think there's something disgusting with the way our club behaves. For some people that's ok because it has left us with some level of on pitch success, but for me and others it's empty, because I can't support a club which has no values or connection with me as a fan.

    As Jumbo already said, trying to assign logic to our club seems redundant. Why would a club that got relegated twice for want of a premier league defence continue to spend money on non playing wingers and not good enough midfielders instead of learning and buying a solid defence to give us a base? Who knows what thinking goes on.

    We can't know because our owner never speaks, our DoF only speaks to the Italian media and our CEO cannot be trusted.
     
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  26. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Has Luther even accepted the role and was he even consulted about before they announced the offer and pushed Luther into a corner.
    Luckily I've spoken to Luther on so many occasions, from a very young 7 or 8 year old to well into my 40's and he always stopped chatted and treated us with respect. He and Bobby Downes even stopped the car and had a kick about with us kids in the late 70's. They memory will never ever leave me.
     
  27. Captain Mandibles

    Captain Mandibles Academy Graduate

    Genuine question because I feel like I'm missing something here - how have the club treated Luther with contempt? There was the Andre Gray interview quote which clearly irritated him, but have there been other things?

    At the Vic I sit not a million miles away from Luther and every game he always looks delighted to be there, enjoying himself.
     
  28. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    So are we signing this bloke or not?
     
  29. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    I didn't make the original comparison!
     
  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    He was not consulted
     
  31. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Again disgraceful behaviour from the club. Not the first time either with our Luther.
     
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  32. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Done deal. Will be announced after Bayo in late November.
     
  33. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    If he's not the love child of CS Lewis and Beatrix Potter I'll be sorely disappointed.

    What a story that would be.
     
  34. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Unfortunately he was born after a threesome between Roy Keane, Insp Morse assistant and a wizard
     
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  35. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    Oh I like Robbie!
    Quite good at cricket in the Clarets episode IIRC?
     

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