[REPORTED] Joao Pedro

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by No guts no glory, Jun 27, 2022.

  1. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Like I said in my original post, it’s concerning that they retain interest - because these moves are rarely done without gauging prior interest from the player.

    I’d be drafting a new contract immediately as that’s the best way of putting teams off. Just sitting saying ‘not for sale’ and hoping they go away and that the player is happy rarely works.

    If he’s not for sale, we probably have to show him by increasing his salary.
     
  2. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Doesn’t seem the type at all to be honest. I’d say only way he doesn’t play would be if a bid is accepted prior.
     
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  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    He won’t sign a new contract now surely ? And not sure we could offer him a bumper deal given we are now a champ club
     
  4. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Give him whatever money he wants, give him whatever assurances he wants for next season! I think at this vantage point it's clear he won't be here next season, regardless of the division (barring a catastrophic injury or another global pandemic!), but just make sure he's here this season!
     
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  5. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    When did he sign his current deal? Can't have been long ago as it's long-term
     
  6. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    We tend to replace Fluminense with Fluminense so... Welcome to Watford Matheus Martins
     
  7. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    We'd probably have space to increase his terms if we weren't paying players like Rose, Pussetto and Penaranda to play for other clubs and party.
     
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  8. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I'd honestly offer them Sarr instead.
     
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  9. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    I’d rather we offered them Ken Sema, and kept Sarr
     
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  10. carboy98

    carboy98 Reservist

    More than any other player in our squad, I'd be gutted if he went.

    At the end of the day though, he deserves to be with a Premier League team. Him staying will depend on him (for some reason) deciding to stay with us, in the Championship, with worse players, on less money, and with no guarantee we get promoted straight back up. Slim odds I'd say and I'm sure a club (Newcastle or other) would be willing to pay a sum that Gino will accept.

    It would be good money, and if it gets reinvested in more South American talent (where we do seem to have an edge) then maybe it's not too bad. If it gets syphoned out to our favourite superagent then not so much.
     
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  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Mitrovic signed one for Fulham last summer. Sometimes you have to break the boundaries of what you’re willing to do.
     
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  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Not sure I agree about next season if we were to go up. I suspect the plan has always been for 2 more years until he’s 22.
     
  13. Doc0075

    Doc0075 Academy Graduate

    They've probably never heard of Kalu, lets do a switcheroo and send him instead.

    He looks about 20, right?
     
  14. Rookery Refugee

    Rookery Refugee Reservist

    There are ways. One big one is working with him on a large (but not insane) release clause. Everybody wins there as he get a percentage of the transfer fee - plus whatever new wages both clubs offer. If he's near the end of his deal, the transfer fee is typically lower and as a result his percentage there would be smaller.
     
  15. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Exactly. Offer him a huge deal now, then he either goes next summer or we go up and the wage bill increases anyway.
     
  16. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Just a matter of time now, start coming to terms with it now, it’ll hurt less that way
     
  17. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    It will be gutting to see him go, but we’ve got to raise that £7m for Jack Stephens somehow.
     
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  18. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    But Fulham are mega rich and could afford to offer him an attractive enough deal to keep him. Doubt very much Pedro would sign a new deal with us unless he doubts his own ability to make it in the prem.
     
  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Wouldn’t mind this.
     
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  20. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Mitrovic is on 100k a week isn’t he? Including the performance related stuff.

    I’ve no interest in footballers, who in a couple of years will be Deeneyesque yokes on the club, earning that sort of money.

    Pedro is a very good, but so far not top notch player. If the fee is right, let him go. Good for him and us. But let’s not chuck money at players in our current position. We simply don’t have it.
     
  21. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    I agree.....
     
  22. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    There was that thread in the summer of whose transfer was most devastating, and to be quite honest with you, with the possible exceptions of January sales like King and Young, every deal has felt pretty inevitable, but this one would probably top the lot for me considering he is supposed to be our main man
     
  23. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    JP is 20 years old, he ain't staying with us long-term
     
  24. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Would numb the pain a wee bit, but we still don't really know much about that lad do we?
     
  25. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    If Newcastle are after him now, I imagine interest in him will only grow, by the sounds of it we'll have a task on our hands to keep him this season, a storming Championsip season might be too much for us to hold on to him
     
  26. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Pozzo’s don’t do release clauses though as it goes against their model entirely. Their whole MO when selling big ticket players is to eek out every last penny. And they will be looking at Joao Pedro as the golden goose in that respect - far more likely they will just keep an unhappy player without a release clause.
     
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  27. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I’m not advocating chucking money at him that we don’t have. He will have had his wage cut due to relegation anyway. I’m suggesting a new deal that reinstates his former wage with a bit on top - couple that with an agreement for the future when negotiating with certain levels of club and I think we’d have a chance of keeping him.
     
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  28. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Speaking of sell-on clauses, anyone have any idea how much we'd have to pay Fluminense?
     
  29. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Think we restructured the deal at some point, paying certain add-ons before they were reached. Don't know if sell-on clause would have been adjusted then, but it was initially 10%.
     
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  30. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Absolutely. Bleed them dry.

    £60mil upfront no installments, £20mil in very achievable add ons over 3 years, plus a 20% sell on fee of the overall fee not just the profit. Take it or leave Newcastle.
     
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  31. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    £150m upfront plus our choice of 3 of their players and Sir Eddie to perform a sex act with a cucumber.
    Back in the real world, if they offer £25-30m I’m sure we will sell.
     
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  32. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    You haven’t been paying attention to how Newcastle have been operating in the transfer market have you.

    They have money but aren’t idiots.
     
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  33. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Where are Everton and Man Utd when you need them?
     
  34. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    We won’t sell for that much. Add £10m on to those amounts and you’re right I would think.

    We have been told that we have said ‘not for sale’ when faced with a £23m bid (inc add-on’s) - I really doubt we will buckle over an extra couple of million.

    ‘Not for sale’ tells me we aren’t trying to get a few extra million at most.
     
  35. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Never, ever going to happen…

    But if we got £40m and that allowed us to:

    Sign Greaves,
    Keep Sarr,
    Sign Nandez
    Sign Matheus Martins
    …and pocket the rest of the money.

    I’d do it. But I just know that’s not how it would play out.
     
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