[REPORTED] Joao Pedro

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by No guts no glory, Jun 27, 2022.

  1. WalthamstowHornet

    WalthamstowHornet Academy Graduate

    My feeling about the window is influenced less by the individual signings and more by how we have failed to fully back the manager (in my view). With Sarr and JP in the side we should have a decent team capable of competing for the top six. As others have said, our best team is almost certainly 433 or some variation, partly to accommodate Sarr (a good problem to have) and partly because of deficiencies in our approach to transfers (a problem that does not seem to have improved despite the assurances). Edwards has a clear style of playing that he is being forced to compromise because of this. But yes assuming Sarr and JP, and with Hamza and hopefully Davis and Hause to come into the team, it could definitely have been worse.
     
  2. Come On Watford

    Come On Watford Academy Graduate

    He speaks Portuguese so will fit right in.
     
  3. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    Plus assuming a sell on percentage is included, we benefit if he moves again for big money.
     
  4. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Squad would definitely be strong enough for top 2 challenge but leaving RE without a dynamic RWB is simply idiotic and unnecessary.
     
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  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    With Sarr staying and the RB and LB he has at his disposal, surely a 4-3-3 system (or derivative thereof) is the only way forward ?
     
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  6. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    I do agree. Ideally we should sign a right footed winger who could play either RWB or on the left of a front 3 as an inverted winger who can cut inside. That way we could switch between the systems well. Maybe Josh Bowler could do this but he is left footed so it would be harder for him to cover those roles. Ebosele would fit this profile too.

    That said, the fact that none of our CBs are any good at progressing the ball would be an issue for the 3-5-2.
     
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  7. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    It is. But removing his flexibility to play 3-5-2 is nonsensical.
     
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  8. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    If we keep him, JP will be vital to our chances this season.
     
  9. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    To play attacking 352 you need WBs that are amongst your best players as this is where the tactical difference lies.

    Also a CB who can bring the ball forward otherwise you have 3 defenders hanging back creating an overload for the opposition in other areas of the pitch.

    Seeing as we ve not got any of the above and a dearth of rumours about signing those type of players I wonder if we will end up playing 433.

    Which would suit our full backs, our CBs, allow us to play Sarr on the wing and have a midfield 3 to allow for Asprilla to play.
     
  10. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes, and while I take Jumbo's point, I doubt we will be able to have 2 sets of first choice FBs to play either role. The issue will be if we then sell Sarr.
     
  11. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Could probably play Sarr at wing back in games where we should be the stronger team, this league is absolute gash. Granted 433 works better for Sarr but I'm surprised so many people are happy to accept it, we've prepared all summer with 343/352 and the club is forcing Edwards into playing another system through shoddy recruitment. Again.
     
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  12. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    I think we’re only one RWB away from being able to toggle between the systems well. Kamara, Sema and Hungbo on the left, maybe Morris in a back four too. New attacking wing back, Gaspar and Ngakia with Hungbo able to fill in there too. Seems a pretty good range of options. But we’d still need a CB who can bring the ball out.
     
  13. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    It has to be a 4-3-3 if we’re keeping Sarr. He’s not a striker in a 3-5-2, he’s not an inside winger in a 3-4-3 and he’s too good at this level to bench.

    Bachman, Gaspar, Hause, Sierrelta, Kamara, Choudhury, Louza, Asprilla, Sema, Sarr & Pedro.

    That guarantees you play offs.

    A competent lone striker would’ve been nice as I do think Pedro is more a #10 than a #9 but I don’t fancy relying on Bayo or Manaj as a starter.

    *Edit, I forgot all about Davis. He starts up top, Pedro takes Asprilla spot for now. In a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1.
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2022
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  14. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    We have Keinan Davis. When fit he’s totally good enough to play as that 9 with Pedro playing behind him and Sarr playing off the shoulder too. That should push for the top 2 in my opinion if Rob is able to adapt.
     
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  15. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Yup literally just realised myself and edited.
     
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  16. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Squad Player

    I like that line up but injuries aside I can’t see Edwards going without his captains Cleverley or Cathcart on the pitch
     
  17. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes, a RWB and ball playing CB. Not sure we will fill both of those gaps in the next few days.
     
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  18. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    I think signing a progressive midfielder is at least as important as a ball playing CB.
     
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  19. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Disagree personally. Louza is coming back soon, maybe Asprilla will drop deeper once Pedro comes in and we have Dele-Bashiru too. It’s something I’d like to have but it’s my third choice incoming (RWB>RCB>CM>ST).
     
  20. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I don't think we can expect Asprilla to play 40+ games at a high level and Dele-Bashiru will be lucky to play again this year.
     
  21. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    Sarr would be decent at wing back, would probably force him to be involved more
     
  22. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Could he defend when required, though? I doubt it.
     
  23. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Ah, we've entered the "X player could probably do a job there" phase and the phase where we start using injured players, players who haven't kicked a ball yet and players who have never played in the positions being suggested for our latest, deluded reasoning of why "we'll be fine".

    Here we go again.
     
  24. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    He's functional as a defender, but as RS2 said It would be an option when you're playing the dross that makes up the majority of this division
     
  25. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Getting Sarr to play RWB would be akin to buying a panther and using it to pull a plough.
     
  26. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    The "dross" like Birmingham and Preston, who we couldn't beat?
     
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  27. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    He's put his "I'm playing tomorrow" pre-match vid on Instagram so fingers crossed
     
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  28. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Playing for whom ?
     
  29. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    QPR, they've decided to shell out again
     
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  30. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Well, today's line-up puts an end to this theory for now!
     
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  31. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Squad Player

    Yep, I made myself look a right Duxbury with that comment


    ……that said, I’m sure it didn’t go unnoticed to Edwards that there was no “captain” rallying the troops out there today.
     
  32. HalfbrickWFC

    HalfbrickWFC Academy Graduate

    I think he should be tried as a midfielder or at least deeper like he was playing before Manaj came off.

    He has great passing range, a nice technique and can carry it forward, spot a through ball. He also has the size to win midfield battles and the work rate to get stuck in.

    As a 'connector', he makes a real impact. He isn't that good as a number 9.
     
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  33. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Hope he was just going straight off the pitch with an injury or frustration at the end .
     
  34. We hate 48

    We hate 48 Reservist

    His OTT ( IMHO) celebration after making it 2-2 was bound to come back to haunt him - making it 3-0 or in a comfort zone then fair enough - just get on with the game and get us ahead
     
  35. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    To be fair to him it might be the last time he celebrates a goal here, glad he enjoyed it.
     

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