General Election - Who do we vote for

Thought this would be a good poll to run alongside the European elections. Who in a general election should we vote for. One vote, who would you like to run your constituency and the country.

Annoymous.

 

Boo! We can't vote for the EU to run us.

 

Is there a sort of 'idiots guide' to what each party is all about available anywhere?

 

I want a Boris Johnson option!!

 

Yes. They are all idiots.

 

Is no one going to vote for the 'boo hoo I'm not a racist but isn't Britain awfully overcrowded', Turkey's voting for Xmas, waah waah stop the media picking on us cry baby UKippers?

 

i think its called www.4yearsofmediasaturation.co.uk

 

If It Helps.....


Labour - Couldn't find a policy summary but their web is here http://www.labour.org.uk/home
Conservative - Seem to be economy focussed http://www.conservatives.com/Plan.aspx
Lib Dem - Have Issues http://www.libdems.org.uk/issues
Green - Have values http://greenparty.org.uk/values/
UKIP - Policy summary http://www.ukip.org/issues
BNP - Look yourself

 

15 votes cast and it looks likely to be a hung parliament.

 

Other-When I'm 18 at the next election, I'll run for MP to form an independent state of Watford.

 

Carpet bomb Luton as your first act in charge!

 

Nice Idea. So the democratic republic of Watford. Would you take the Pound Euro or Orn as your currency?

 

I'm pretty certain it will be but god forbid UKIP come third behind labour ... a right+far right Con UKIP pact would undoubtedly revert to sending kids up chimney's.
If everyone voted as all these "where do I stand" quizzes suggest then Lib Dems would win by a landslide however the media have made such a top rate job of belittling them that all their sheep readers will likely vote elsewhere.

 

Nick Griffin on the TV right now apparently telling anyone who'll listen that Nigel Farage is not a racist. That must be just the endorsement he wanted.

 

Don't think it will happen. Cam Moron has called UKIP "a closet racist party full of swivel eyed lunatics." Farage won't cosy up to him and I can't see Cam Moron being replaced.

We're either going to have a toothless minority government and 4 years of nothing happening or a Labour/ Lib dem monstrosity assuming Libdems have any MPs of course. UKIP won't side with Labour, because Labour won't offer a referendum.

 

Mind you he would be an expert on the matter. Takes one to know one and all that.

 

Not sure why you quite so belittle people voting for the non mainstream parties. Surely the people who know that the Tories and Labour just take their vote for granted and don't represent them, but nonetheless just vote red or blue anyway should be derided as well? UKIP only exist because Labour and Tories have become close to one another and are stuffed with career politicians who just listen to their focus groups for policy ideas. It's a mess.

 

I can't argue with your post other than UKIP are not the answer to any serious examination of the question 'How can we improve things for poorer UK citizens?'

 

You may well be correct, but since they are the only "alternative" with any momentum right now I suppose it is natural that everyone will jump on it if they are fed up with Cameron/Miliband/Clegg. Personally I think they'll do very well this week, but over the next year things will unravel quite quickly once they are under ever increasing scrutiny.

 

A few years ago, I listened to an hour long debate on Radio 4 in which Lib Dem representatives were arguing over where they should "place" themselves in an imminent "relaunch". The discussion seemed to 95% revolve around where the votes were, rather than their policies. In other words it was more of "What policy shall, we adopt to win more votes?" than "These are our policies, how can we persuade voters to follow us?" In my view, that is a totally immoral starting point, but that is why they appear to do well in these "where do I stand" quizzes.

Sadly the other 2 major parties seem to be following that starting point lately. Even UKIP are not that far right anymore now that they are getting a sniff of success. I reckon a Con/UKIP pact would be more of a "slightly right of centre / right" coalition. No way would it mean anything like a "kids up chimneys" scenario. They, like their opponents, would be far more concerned about power than anything else.

 

What we really need are representative elections as in Germany, there minorities get a word in and they get proportional consideration.
The problem is both major parties will see their share shrink and unfortunately they hold all the cards.

 

Private eye revealed that the Tories have been leaking stories to Ukip in return for leeway.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn3nKmaCQAEWwKW.jpg

 

And one thing is for sure no combination is going to lead to any reduction in government debt any time soon, or heaven forbid running a budget surplus in a boom! Far better to target their support groups with spending (whether that be public sector, bankers etc) and let the next government worry about it.

You are right that they are all at it though - Labour ran numerous policies through their focus groups and capping energy prices went off the charts so that was the flag ship policy. I'm sure Tories did the same as well.

At least Kinnock tried to sell his views to the electorate which I respected even if I didn't agree with his viewpoint.

 

It's not 'natural' at all. It's incoherent anger and petit racism expressed through nationalism. It's scarcely 'politics' at all.

 

Caused by all that is wrong with the current voting system, if you can't get your foot in you can't deliver policy so it's very understandable that it's become so key. However Lib Dem policy is driven by 'making the UK a fairer place', always has been.

 

Well now we are getting into a debate about whether people being concerned about free movement of labour taking their jobs is racist or not which is a different matter. I find some of the things UKIP candidates say extremely disturbing, but the topic of immigration itself should not be off the table. Immigration doesn't impact my job one iota, but if someone thinks that they are out of work because there are weak border controls (or if there are no borders in the case of the EU) why wouldn't be they be angry? You can argue that it's their own fault that they can't go and take work in the EU due to language issue or skills/attitude deficits but they aren't going to see it that way. Are they racist? Or just bitter because a better person took the job? Calling them racist will just give UKIP more votes because people will perceive that their concerns outlined above cannot be spoken about and that will create resentment which is a powerful driver to get someone to the ballot box.

Other parties could slash UKIP votes if they hammered home the benefits of immigration as opposed to trying to paint UKIP as a new version of BNP imo.

 

Clegg does try to put forward the benefits of immigration to be fair to him, but the Tories and Labour don't seem to from what I have seen.

 

BEWARE Labour and Libdem voters!!! A vote for UKIP will let the Tories in again by the back door in the general election!!!

As UKIP will side with them if they get any seats, but what is more likely is the Blues will always vote Blue, but the Reds & the Yellows will be more likely to switch to UKIP which would probably put the Tories back in as the senior partners in another "Coalition" government or worse still with an outright majority!!!

 

...and of course, every Party would say the same.

It is a totally meaningless statement when made by a Party that will never be in power. We will probably never know what "fair" means to them, as they avoid being specific when asked to explain.

 

Disagree I'm afraid TVOR

LibDem are for more integration in Europe. A Libdem voter is highly unlikely to switch to UKIP. Libdem are more likely to switch to Labour than anyone else. UKIP have been picking up votes from all parties, but until the tories strengthened their position on europe they were the main losers, but I don't think they will be a serious prospect come the general election. They may factor in a coaltion but the no compromise offer a referendum issue will mean the Tories are the only party even remotely likely to be a prospect for them.

Vote for who you want in. Bear in mind that when fewer people vote for a minority party you're more likely to have a majority government where it's easier to implement policies.

If you're left leaning vote Red, if you're right leaning vote Blue. The last thing we want is another toothless coalition.

 

Disagree Miester,

If I had my way there would be no parties and all MP's would have a free vote on all issues, therefore a "Coalition" is better than a single majority party in my book!

Although I hated the Libdems siding with the Tories after the last election, at least they have tempered what no doubt would have been the Tories more outlandish policies had they been left to their own devices!

 

Agree with this. It's a common belief that UKIP get most of their support from the Tories, but really it's pretty mixed with perhaps Labour set to suffer the most.

 

Unfortunately to pass legislation you need a majority in Westminster. Without the party system you would never get anything passed. To have 100s of independent MPs is recipe for coalition after coalition. Everything will be watered down to apease all sides and you'll have a stalemate.

If you want real change which I argue is seriously needed, realistically it takes 8 years plus for a government to get anything done. What is worse than a coalition where disagreement prevents anything changing is when you have a swing left and right each term. Each government spends it's first 4 years stamping it's authority on the last governments plans. If you want real change you need to abolish the system and start again or give the incumbents longer in power.

This time I'm voting blue simply because I don't trust Red on the economy, they don't have any policies at all, they just rubbish everyone else's and the Tories are closest to my thoughts on Europe.

 

I think it is ridiculous that anybody is still falling for this illusion of choice. They are all the same. Only way forward is banning all political parties and a truly independent house of commons with real democracy not this whip nonsense all the parties have. Add in the lobbying, big business sponsoring parties, cash for honours etc. Dont fall for it anymore ffs. I dont want to say wake up sheeple but, wake up sheeple.

 

Interesting, so how would that work in practice then?

Say there was a simple scenario. Somebody wants to reduce the Income Rates by 1%. Explain how that would work democratically, with say 600 independent MP's. Is there a Chancellor, for example? How would he get his job?