Close Season Detective Work

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by UEA_Hornet, Jun 26, 2021.

  1. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    So the club just posted a picture of Baah on Twitter which they titled ‘Signed, sealed, delivered’:

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    Nice.

    Being a nosey so and so, I thought I’d look at what he’s signing. Turns out it’s an email to Christiano (Giaretta presumably) from someone called Frank:

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    And we can make out some of it. Point 1 mentions Hungbo. Point 2 to be a list of players in different positions. Left backs has “you said you are close to signing one” next to it - Rose?

    Can make out Chalobah’s brother in the list of central midfielders.

    One of the wingers suggested is Harry Wilson “at Cardiff on loan from Liverpool” and another is Thrhys Dolan at Blackburn. The first listed striker is Abdullah Sima at Sparta Prague. Then Giovanni Simone at Cagliari and Boulaye Dia at Reims.

    Anyway, it’s presumably just a random list of suggested targets from an agent and not quite up there with identifying training ground furniture, but I thought I’d still post it.
     
  2. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Incredible work sir
     
  3. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Trevoh Chalobah has supposedly had a fantastic impact this season at Lorient. Very good stats.
    Sima looked absolutely mental for Sparta and Dia had a great start to the season.
    Fantastic work Sir.
     
  4. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Nice work, I wish my eyes worked well enough to read it.
     
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  5. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    Outstanding sleuthing from UEA_Columbo
     
  6. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    This is very strange. He's clearly not signing a contract.

    I've done a quick scan and can make out under winger it says
    Harry Wilson at Cardiff (on loan to Liverpool)
    Tyrhys Dolan at Blackburn
    Khvicha Kvaratskhelia at Rubin Kazan

    Under strikers it says
    Abdallah Sima at Slavia Prague
    Giovanni Simeone at Cagliari
    Boulaye Dia at Reims
    Vitinho Sao Paulo (out of contract November 2021 - young Brazilian international)
    Jakub Kaminski at Lech Poznan


    The last lines say Please let me know if there are any of these..............going forward

    Good luck for the rest of the season and it is dated April.

    EDIT
    Under central midfielders it says
    Trevor Chalobah at L'Orient (on loan from Chelsea)
     
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  7. Great work

    Its not really strange, someone has just grabbed a bit of paper to stage the photo.... and without thinking they've used an email from an agent or agency... oops

    Anyhoo, I'm liking many of the names on that list and would be very happy with Simeone
     
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  8. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    The only two I can't make out are the 2nd and 3rd CBs below Panzo

    Centre Back
    Jonathan Panzo at Dijon
    ?
    ?
    Mo Camara - Young Boys

    Left Back
    Marcelo Saracchi - RB Leipzig on loan at Galatasaray

    Central Midfield
    Trevoh Chalobah - Lorient
    Alex Mowatt - Barnsley
    Ronaldo Vieira - Hellas Verona on loan from Sampdoria
    Okay Yokunslu - WBA on loan from Celta Vigo
    Mario Lemina - Fulham
    Florentino Luis - Monaco on loan from Benfica
    Ludovic Blas - Nantes

    Wingers:
    Harry Wilson - Cardiff loan from Liverpool
    Tyrhys Dolan - Blackburn
    Khvicha Kvaratskeliha - Rubin Kazan
    Vitinho - Sao Paulo
    Jakub Kaminski - Lech Poznan

    Forwards:
    Abdullah Sima - Sparta Prague
    Giovanni Simone - Cagliari
    Boulaye Dia - Reims

    Panzo link confirmed.

    Good to see Yokunslu on there

    Any of those strikers would be decent. @Markoa$ would be pleased with Dia on there.

    At first glance the wingers are a bit underwhelming.
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2021
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  9. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Didn’t some government minister do this walking into downing street? Had a document on show with some very sensitive info on it.
     
  10. Doubt this is all that sensitive and can imagine the same email has been sent to 50 different clubs
     
  11. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    8 April is the date of the email from Giaretta that ‘Frank’ is responding to I think. Bit odd that’s all they had to pose for the picture with.

    I reckon the recipient of that email was a ‘Frank T…’

    I checked the list of FA registered intermediaries (aka agents) and there’s a Frank Justin Trimboli:

    https://www.thefa.com/-/media/files...registered-intermediaries---25-june-2021.ashx

    And Transfermarkt has Joseph Hungbo’s agents down as CAA Base Ltd, whose Managing Director is… Frank Trimboli.

    https://basesoccer.com/base-people/

    So pretty sure we know who the sender was too, especially given the mention of Hungbo at the top.
     
  12. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Checking transfermarkt quite a few, though not all, seem to be represented by 'CAA Base Ltd' (Blas, Panzo, Chalobah, Vieira, Mowatt, Dolan), so it could have something to do with them...

    https://www.transfermarkt.com/caa-base-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/674

    Funnily enough the same agency represents Danny Rose, Ashley Young and Obbi Oulare.

    It turns out their Managing Director is one 'Frank' Trimboli - so I guess the email was sent from him - mystery solved!

    https://caabase.com/base-people/

    @UEA_Hornet ^^
     
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  13. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yeah, I bet it’s pretty typical for agents to send around versions of this. Probably the most insight we can take from it are the 5 positions listed, which presumably match what Giaretta said we’re looking for this summer:
     
  14. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    Yea that's actually happened several times. So many times, in fact, that you start to think it's probably deliberate.
     
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  15. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Good looking list. Hopefully we'll get them all. Especially the wingers.

    Apart from Harry Wilson, he's utter ****.
     
  16. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Good find.
     
  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It must have been tailored to Giaretta though - CAA Base seem to have loooads of clients and not all possible players of theirs are included. Plus many of the players on that list do not seem to be direct clients of CAA Base, but maybe ones they have some kind of second-hand intermediary relationship with via other agencies.

    Another random thing I found interesting, Jens Cajuste, DM at Midtjylland who I thought seemed quite promising for Sweden the other day, is a client of CAA Base but was left of that list for whatever reason - disappointing.
     
  18. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Of course, the other takeaway from this Baah ain’t getting paid and this will probably be another FIFA court contract dispute.
     
  19. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Ha, could be.

    Or he's also a football scout in his spare time and Giaretta wanted to ask him for his opinions.
     
  20. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    We've been linked with Simeone a fair bit over the years. Would most definitely be top of my list out of those players. Ok his goalscoring stats are not the best but imo he's one of the most hardworking, unselfish forwards I've seen, always tracking back to help out his team. Would be a fantastic link striker for the wide players and is no slouch to get into the box. I've read Wet Spam have made a loan offer. All accounts he wants out of Italy too.
     
  21. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Fantastic work all.

    After all the grim, pointless bickering on here over the last year, it’s great to have a high quality thread again.

    p.s. has anyone seen where Bas/z has been lurking recently?
     
  22. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Never ******* heard of any of them, but am salivating at the prospect of any or all of them signing (except for the British players of course).

    Fantastic sleuthing.
     
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  23. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    'Ronaldo Viera' indicates that agents simply make up footballers if they run out of them.
     
  24. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Don't be too impressed, UEA is actually Sherlock Holmes in real life so this was easy for him!
     
  25. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Not being able to figure out the 2nd and 3rd CBs is doing my nut in.

    For the 2nd one, can anyone think of any reasonably sized football clubs whose name is two words, first word beginning maybe Q, G or O, and second word beginning M or H?

    e.g. Qxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx

    It could have maybe been Olympique Marseillie, but they have no CBs whose names could fit.

    The first name seems to begin with L, the surname with K and ending g

    e.g. Lxxxx Kxxg (it's not 'King' there are no matches, unless Ledley King has come out of retirement).

    The 3rd one's first name looks similar to Jacob. The name of the club seems really long and might begin with S. Can't spot any matches based on those though.
     
  26. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The 2nd one I'm pretty sure is Leon King at Glasgow Rangers.
     
  27. jackwfc

    jackwfc Academy Graduate

    Yep I thought that as well, I think the 3rd is 21-year-old Jacob Bedeau from Scunthorpe United.
     
  28. jackwfc

    jackwfc Academy Graduate

    Also, that Khvicha Kvaratskhelia from the wingers list is very good. Rapid, great dribbling ability and good with both feet.
     
  29. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I thought about him when searching for CBs called 'King', but the club didn't seem to match.

    It didn't register that the club might have been listed as 'Glasgow Rangers' and not just 'Rangers'.

    Looking at it again from that perspective Leon King is correct.

    It's odd that in some places they give an extended version of a club's name and in others they don't.
     
  30. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Was just about to post that, definitely looks like Scunthorpe.
     
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  31. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Fantastic work indeed.
    Unfortunately I have heard that Bournemouth's Richard Hughes has today signed all 3 based purely on this information.
    Fortunately this list was deliberately made public to throw Hughes off the scent, a la D-Day landings deception.
     
  32. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    That's probably correct as well. He's just out of contract now but more linked with League One and Champ clubs. Again, bit odd they didn't bother to add United to the name.
     
  33. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    He does seem the pick of the wingers on that list. Currently linked with Leeds for £20mil, not sure how true it is.
     
  34. reids

    reids First Team

    Superb work all, and a bit of an oops from the club!
     
  35. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Baffling from the club but incredible work from our detectives! What's even more baffling is that presumably one of the reasons they don't release a picture of the player signing the actual contract (and normally just a generic or plain piece of paper) is because it contains proprietary information, but if anything the info here is more proprietary
     

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