Close Season Detective Work

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by UEA_Hornet, Jun 26, 2021.

  1. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Out of contract next week so we could find out pretty soon if we decided to go for him.
     
  2. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Pleased to see Vydra from Burnley halfway down.

    Get him in.
     
  3. USAHornet

    USAHornet Academy Graduate

    The sheet of paper he's signing is not the top one - so presumably there are other emails on top of it that relate to Baah, which is why they happened to have a hard copy of it. But a bit of a weird rookie move to use that paper!

    The email is from the agent to the club, so presumably just agent pushing out his players. Doesn't mean we're signing any of them, but does indicate the club was at least hearing from agents about CBs, central MFs, wingers and strikers.

    Sign 'em up, Gino. All of 'em. Please.
     
  4. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Yeah my read is that Giaretta emailed the agent and said something to the effect of "which of your clients/players you might act as an intermediary with will be on the move this summer, in the following positions."

    I don't think Baah is a CAA Base client and he's not mentioned on the list; there probably are more recent emails at the top of the document but no reason to think any would mention Baah. It could have been a random sheet of paper lying around/that Giaretta had handy. Definitely a rookie error to release it
     
  5. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Interesting that this appears to be a historic email pre-dating the Rose signing and yet there is no mention of Young. Could add some weight to the idea we were never really in for him.
     
  6. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Good point. He's a CAA Base client as well.
     
  7. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It doesn't mention Rose either.

    It could also be that the agency already knew we were bidding for both of them and so didn't need to add them to the list?

    The fact that only one left-back was mentioned could be an indication that they were aware it was less of a priority for us as we already had players lined up, and that was just an additional name in case either Young or Rose fell through.
     
  8. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    You jest, but mods @nornironhorn @domthehornet @Smudger - should this thread be perhaps moved elsewhere? Not only to prevent other teams' scouts maybe seeing and nicking our potential targets, but also to bury the fact that the club seems to have leaked potentially sensitive information of a third party?
     
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  9. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    It's Laura Kuenssberg. You're welcome.
     
  10. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    But she's a centre-right, not a centre-back!
     
  11. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Someone above had said it says “Left back [...] you said you are close to signing one [...] Rose?". Can't see it myself, but then I can't read 99% of it.

    They are a big agency so it may well be that the MD isn't totally familiar with what is happening on every single deal at any time. Can't imagine the free signing of Rose was a particularly high value one for them.

    It actually looks a pretty decent list of players - with the exception of Harry Wilson who I think is dog muck, the rest of the list I quite like.

    In terms of the player values as well - it would suggest that striker > wing > midfield > centre back is our current priority which I would probably agree with myself (pending outgoings of course). I fear all 3 of those strikers are outside our price bracket though.
     
  12. LouOrns

    LouOrns First Year Pro

    Simeone would be under £10m. I think he’s great fun as well + adds to our famous dads collection
     
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  13. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Yeah I like him. Seems a perfect profile of striker for a newly promoted side. Not the best finisher but every time I have watched him he works his ******** off.

    I think he has been a long term interest of ours as well so it is certainly credible.
     
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  14. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    And good enough to actually play for us, unlike the other players with famous dads we've acquired recently
     
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  15. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    That was me. The reference to Rose was my guess but I'm pretty sure that's what the rest of that line says.
     
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  16. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    As far as I am aware the information is available in the public domain, well social media. We will keep an eye on it lest we want Harry The Hornet knocking on the door.
     
  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    True, but the information could be more prominent and obvious on here than in an old tweet which the vast majority of people wouldn't have thought to look at in so much detail (in that it requires rotating and zooming the picture to realise that it's potentially sensitive).
     
  18. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Can you also remove all the tweets and memes from Twitter about this when you get a chance?

    Thanks Dom x
     
  19. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    AL and the wobby will be reporting as their own findings by about Tuesday of next week anyway.
     
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  20. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team

    I can't believe it's two pages in and no one has spotted....

    Vydra?
     
  21. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team

    Beat me to it
     
  22. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It just says "you said you are close to signing one", it does not mention Rose by name, that was just UEA's guess as to who was being referred to. But we could have been in negotiations for both Rose and Young.

    Given that both Rose and Young are CAA Base clients, and it appears Giaretta and Trimboli likely had a conversation prior to the email being sent over, I still would have thought he'd have had an idea that we were in for one or both of them.

    Otherwise, one would have definitely expected Rose would also have been named as a suggestion on the list, but he wasn't. So Young also not being named is not an indication that we weren't in for him - in fact, it could suggest he knew he was one of the players we were in negotiations for, hence why he was left off the list along with Rose.
     
  23. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    You reckon he'd be valued under 10m? He had a great start to the season but looks like the manager who came in didn't fancy him. Agreed with @barely1egal works his socks off for the team everytime I've seen him. A very decent option especially if we can get him for that kind of money. He's also stated that he wants to try his luck in a new country, Spain or England.
     
  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    No-one will believe anything anyway until it's confirmed by WdSport.
     
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  25. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    Someone's just posted this on Twits. Said to be a full list of transfer targets from the Baah "contract" (although they are more agent suggestions than actual targets)

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  26. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Please remove this, it's even more prominent. Other clubs like Bournemouth, Dundee and Hemel Hempstead trawl this forum for transfer ideas.
     
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  27. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    The person who posted it has Vlahovic as their profile pic - @SerbianHornet ?!
     
  28. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I also see @jackwfc is spreading the names around on twitter as well.
     
  29. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Maybe none of them are actually wanted by the club, and it's all an intentional big bluff to throw people off the sent of their main targets?
     
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  30. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    In my first job we had certain sensitive information about new products coming out. There was a tour by industry bigwigs and we were told to clear our desks of any documentation in advvance.
    We purposely left some photoshopped images lying about with some interesting, but totally impractical and nigh on impossible little additions. Two of these hoaxes made it into industry press.

    That's definitely a mockup and I highly doubt they'd bring out a sheet of paper with confidential stuff on it for that. Unless of course they are completely incompetent.

    Or, they are extremely clever and hoping it'll leak, sort of back door tapping up or bluff as LR suggests?
     
  31. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Another triumph for the club's cack-handed communications team
     
  32. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Given our clubs poor (non-Pozzo internal) transfer history, this email might be a way of scaring off our rivals so we can purchase the player more cheaply.
     
  33. SerbianHornet

    SerbianHornet First Year Pro

    No clue who that guy is. Majority of the players come from this agency: https://www.transfermarkt.com/caa-base-ltd/beraterfirma/berater/674. Rose and Chalobah are also their clients, as well as Obbi Oulare and Fernando Llorente(if I remember correctly we were linked with him before). So imo those are players that an agent offered to us, rather than our targets.

    Edit: just seen that very similar things were posted as this post. Sorry :)
     
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  34. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Quiet Batpeople?

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  35. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Anyone can edit twitter.
     

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