14 Days

I was being ironic Pads or is it idonic. One letter makes all the difference I spose. bit like Moog and ****.

 

13 days and counting.

good news is looton are still in the cup, we may still get to play them in the next round.:sign15:

 

I think they were much better back in the 1980's..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWKKJgJfwKY&feature=related

 

:dismay:

 

cant believe you started this article less than 24 hours after us beating qpr, way to bring everyone back down again despite such a fantastic game and result.

the russo's have said we dont have to sell, so we wont sell. other people who in the past have seemed to be in the know suggest that there is something underfoot at the club, possible recalling of debt by certain previous board members?

be patient, and try for once to see the good in people rather than just sticking with your preconceptions about the russos.

 

RON!:sign15:

I have a very little whisper that all maybe is not fine in the boardroom - how true I do not know - but a little whisper I have had.

GT is really tyalking a lot about WFC, EJ hasn't said anything for ags except he's looking forward to doing the concert to raise funds to BUY PLAYERS, Ashcrafty doesn't even want to talk to the bruvs, opting for a lil chinwag with Mr Winter -

and the orns go marching on! on! on!

 

It would be more effective to have an "R" tattooed on his left arse cheek and "N" on the other and then bend over and spread 'em.

 

R. o. N. Would look a bit weird like that!

 

Made me laugh! :]]

 

Jeeeeezus - that's really got to be the dumbest post of all time!

A tiny 'strip' of WFC land round the back of the Rookery was sold by Simpson for a small fortune ..... and you reckon the rest of the site has "little value to property developers"?

Right as none of you have a clue about life - let alone the building game - let me 'enlighten' you.

The very 'contours' of the Vic site make it worth a fortune ..... before you even lay a brick!

The money that could be made from the 'landfilling' - to level that site - would run into millions alone.

It would take tens of thousands of tipper loads to infill the site - for which the land owner/developer would charge around £120 per load to the 'muck away boys' desperate to get rid of spoil from other sites .... there's an old saying in the game, "if you wanna get rich, get a hole".

Once you get a level site, you can start assessing it's - enhanced - value.

Land area - in comparison to that occupied by the Scrubbers Flats - x 10 (at least I would think) .... didn't Cashton sell that strip for £0.75 million? ..... thus the 'worthless' site is probably/possibly worth upwards of £10 mill (landfill charges + land value) at a very conservative estimate!

Apart from being too dim to appreciate the potential worth of the club's home - you're all missing the point with your childish witterings.

The Russos are clever businessmen - but were in a bit of a spot.

They are involved in running/and investing in a company .... but aren't the majority shareholders.

A combined attack by Ashcroft and Homer could result in them being voted out, once again.

They are further constrained in progressing the business by the lack of desire to invest by these shareholders .... a dodgy situation?

Indeed, but they're shrewd enough to combat the threat.

The only tangible asset of Watford Leisure Plc is the ground (unless you really think Man Ure are drooling over our squad).

Thus by lending money secured against the freehold as preferred creditors, the tangible asset is removed as the value item underwriting GS and Ashcroft's holdings ..... undermining any moves by them, and devaluing (or even making worthless) their shares ...... and forcing them to negotiate/invest/not meddle now that their lever (combined, more shares than the Bruvs) has been neutralised.

Once again, hats off to the Russo Boys for a job well done!

All very clever, but very simple .... like you lot!

Now get back to dribbling over next year's kit, adult discussion is beyond you ..........

 

you keep going on about investors but there are none!!!!!!

we are not an attractive club to invest in!!!!

we have debt!!!!

we have a f***ing three sided ground!!!!!

we have a playing squad, the majority of whom would get id trying to buy a pint!!!!

add to which, you may have heard of something called the global credit crunch?

tally all these together and an investment in WFC hardly looks likely or a good bluddy idea does it!

p.s. my use of ! is excessive, :]]

 

Spot on :sign15:

 

And thats the exact reason why they announced at he fans forum that they had leant the club money but forgot to mention it was all secured against the ground.

These guys don't have a liquid worth in excess of £200m each because they are mugs, its because they see a earning oppotunity when it comes their way.

We on the other had think they are doing us a favor by taking £10m + assett off our hands !

RON

 

yeah which is why you thought it would be a good idea to reply with a long, ******** post like this.:sign15:

 

I am sure this is what the club would like to see,

Now imagine a Vicarage Square version of that, with our very own creche for the local school kids, a needle drop in centre in the middle, the council and the health campus team would cream themselves at that possiblity. The Russos get the dosh and build a new out of town stadium in Chiswell Green next to the M25 and M1

 

haha

Gods sake matimbers you've gone and done it now...oldmanray and pya are gonna be creaming themselves over this.

IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY I TELL THEE.

 

No, it isnt. The money that can be made form the vic is no where near the amount your quoting and tbh it really wouldnt be worth the years that the Russo's have put into it so far when they could have done it 3 or 4 times over on the tens of dozens of better and more obtainable sites located around hertfordshire.

 

Well said

 

Emm good point

it makes you wonder why any property invester ever bought disused factory, warehousing and industrial sites to convert into housing.

Fools the lot of them,





Sorry - my mistake - RICH-fools the lot of them

 

No joke Hollywood, serious money could be made. The goverment wants a large percentage of the required 425,000 new homes in the south east to come from brownfild sites/redevelopment of present sites

Unfortunately, we do not have a ground like Highbury as those flats have gone for lots, and lots of money but there is need for housing/amenities next to the new health campus, unfortunately, a few flats wrapped around a stand or two is not the answer.

 

Oh i'm not laughing fella.

 

God give me strength ....... where do they get these people?

Originally Posted by hollywood
And of course, if you was in the building game

Iam - and have been for donkeys years .... and yourself?,

would realise that the 4 stands would not 'disappear' into thin air, they would have to be demolished...at a big cost...

You really haven't got a clue, have you?

The stands at Vicarage Road could be demolished in a matter of weeks at no great cost .... the steel frames/roofs would be sold for scrap (as on any demo job) .... and a Concrete Crusher would reduce the rest to hardcore.

and all the left over crushed concrete would have to be moved off site

Eh, WTF?

Why would you pay to shift the crushed aggregate from the site when you're trying to fill/level the biggest hole in West phuqqin Watford?

(to allow for your 10's of thousands of truck loads) of yes, you guessed it, crushed concrete and soil (it would be useless as a building site for 20 years

Once again you don't know what you're talking about sonny - crushed concrete, rubble and soil are precisely what is used to build up the oversite on anything from building sites to motorway slip roads, you dope!

if you just merely in-filled it with waste (carbon monoxide needs to be filtered)

If you bothered to actually read my post Einstein, you'd see I stated "spoil from other sites".

'Spoil' is not household waste you fool ..... builder's rubble doesnt produce methane!

i'm not sure where you think the big profit will come from as i'm not convinced that there is a need for 450-500 flats in west watford when the general publics allocation of 38 are struggling to sell

There's always a market for flats, and the biggest property buyer in the country is The Housing Corporation ..... that's the Housing Associations to the ignorant!


Now do run along, it's like shooting fish in a barrel replying to your ill-thought ridiculously stupid posts.

 

you obviously didn't quite get my sarcasm in my post, old man.

Get any joy out of attacking people behind a computer ?

 

A little tip.

When you get made to look really silly, claiming you were 'being sarcastic' ..... makes you look even sillier!

 

How have you made me to look silly ? Read the bit about the concrete..

oh yeah sorry....wow, of course you are the best builder in the business and all of us should bow down to the mighty oldmanray..after all we are all stupid eh

 

Probably ..... but you really ought to be in a corner with a cone on your head.

 

Sorry, what's producing Carbon Monoxide?

I thought I knew all about products of combustion and fire and that, but it appears I don't

I'm intrigued

 

yeah fair do's, i ment methane.

 

why ? because it's been about 15 years since i stepped foot on a poxy building site so my knowledge of building is not as good as yours ?

Jeeeeeeez

 

Yes.

 

ok, fair enough.

That says quite a lot about you.

 

I accept your grovelling apology .... gracefully.

 

*holds out hand*

 

shakes.

 

So that's once again confirmed the potential, the ease and the agreeable timescales of developing the site...

What I now wanna know is....