How about they buy for £20m now but we have an obligation to buy back for say £18m if they get relegated and we get promoted ?
https://twitter.com/AdamLeventhal/status/1557651991949676544?t=AomJDtzxLMC6T6aQdlPtbw&s=19 £20m including add-ons. Let's get them up to £20m + add-ons.
Selling Dennis for £20m and replacing him with Davis, Manaj and Bayo for £10m or so would be catastrophically poor business even by the Pozzo's standards. No issue selling Dennis, but I'd rather we also sold Manaj and Bayo as well and brought in a proper forward.
I think most football fans would see £20m for Dennis as a bargain. Lewis-Potter went from Hull to Brentford for £19m. Never played in the Prem before. McNeil from Burnley to Everton for £23m Collins from Burnley to Wolves for £24m I just think the valuation is too low for a player of his ability.
Forest seem desperate this window + Dennis is probably worth more than 20 million. We shouldn't let him go for under 25 million plus add ons or about 30 million without them imo. By various sources they spent around 20 million up front plus bonuses for Awoniyi who had 16 goal contributions in Bundesliga. Dennis had the same number in Premier League + he can play as a winger two. So the 25-30 million I said seems a fair asking price.
With the number of high-profile flops from the Bundesliga, it puzzles me why teams are still keen to spend such big money on players from there
The Belgium league is clearly the easiest to step up from otherwise we surely wouldn’t keep buying from there.
Despite both the Sarr and Dennis sales being inevitable, it’s still a little depressing that they now appear to be materialising We’ll reinvest a fraction (if any) of the fees on replacements and go from auto challengers to playoff challengers overnight
Strip everything else away and it probably does deserve to be recognised that we're close to completing a superb piece of business here. Spotting a bargain, giving the player a platform to perform and selling them on for an enormous profit should be our M.O. in the transfer market and this is the best example of it since Richarlison. (I know we were relegated anyway, I know plenty else doesn't feel particularly rosy, but this - in isolation - is good.)
One of the two needs to go. I had thought it would be Sarr but a front two of Sarr and Pedro would still be good at this level. It would also enable us to go three in the middle.
We could get £100m for him and I wouldn't trust this lot to adequately reinvest. At this point I'd rather keep the talented players than get four or five useless tw@ts that get loaned out again in January. We need to be vocal at matches. We moan about Mogi, Giaretta, Duxbury and Gino on here but I don't hear a peep at the ground. Some say that wouldn't help the team - but you know what really doesn't help the team? Those four lying pr1cks.
Hopefully we can make the sales and pay-off some loans. The danger is we keep these players and get promoted, only to get smashed to bits in the PL by teams full of rich owners. Let’s embrace being a mid-table championship club, and stop getting ideas above ourselves.
Mogi is in for a very good August. He'll definitely have his fat fingers in the Sarr and Dennis deals.
I could well be with you on this, but we really have to wait (however tough that is) until the window closes. If we sell Sarr and Dennis, but only get someone like Keinan Davies on loan, whilst muddling through with no RWB and no LCB, then that would be too much. I think the fans would turn on the board in their droves if the squad is devalued to that degree. But only one of Sarr or Dennis go (unlikely) or if they brought in real quality to replace them with, even on loan (not sure who), get Clarke at LCB, some speed merchant at RWB, it could still all be ok.
The thing is though, you have to look at these things in the round and these bargains are offset by the money lost on utter *****. Dennis has been a real success, but how much of that profit is going to actually see our coffers when deductions are made for the losses on Pussetto, Bayo, Tufan etc.
Need to repay the £50m debt somehow at some point. If we could guarantee promotion or that we could sell them both for the same or more next summer, then we could keep them both. We need a Plan B if we don't go up before the parachute money runs out and Plan B can't be "we gave it our best shot but slipped into administration because we had no assets left to sell to pay down the debt".
I think most clubs are smart enough not to be swayed by a one in a million goal like that, there's enough evidence to suggest he's the same player he's been for 3 years with us. Whether other clubs think there's something there to be fixed, and for a decent price, is another matter
Dennis is definitely a more sure bet than Sarr. I don't think Sarr's mentally tough enough to have a poor run at a bigger side
We have needed to service debt before though and got by. I’m not saying that’s the right thing to do and I’m unhappy about. I agree selling one or both is the sensible way. But I just question the ‘need’ part as we have shown before that’s not true.
Rennes are a bigger side and he was fantastic then. I still think Sarr has a bigger ceiling than Dennis - a good coach and a settled club will show that IMO. Dennis is too much of a maverick to knuckle down and get a move somewhere big.
Not sure why everyone's so angry. One of the two players was always going to leave. We got relegated, that unfortunately leaves a hole in the finances, if we get £20-25m for Dennis it'll range from Top 5-10 biggest Championship sales ever. Danjuma went to Villarreal for 21.5m, Bowen to West Ham for 20m, it's about the right kinda fee, preferably 20m upfront rather than a whole load of undisclosed add-ons but it was inevitable someone would go.
