[SOLD] Emmanuel Dennis

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Jun 21, 2021.

  1. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    Rennes aren't exactly massive. Plus they play in a farmers league.

    How will hold up to the scrutiny of a Leeds or Utd fan base week in week out?

    Dennis thinks he's big time, and wouldn't give a fark what a fan base thinks of him
     
  2. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    I dont think the sale for 20m is really the issue here.

    Its the knowledge that the replacements brought in for him are ******* ***** and that we will piss any proceeds from the sale up the wall on Mogi Bayat dross.

    Dennis has also already proven himself at a higher level, unlike either Danjuma or Bowen.
     
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  3. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Spot on. Sarr has proved he can knuckle down but he still frustrates me. As for Dennis for me he's far too predictable and isn't a team player that is desperately needed.
    Still reckon both will go because it's not looking like Edwards is going to change formation to incorporate them both.
    It does or will leave us lacking pace up top though.
     
  4. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Shame about the 20 duds we signed that cost double the profit we’ll make.
     
  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    We could service as we had prem league income. In future the amount of debt will need to be bought down as the tv money we secure it against and use to service it will reduce dramatically. At some point the debt will need to be paid down and we wont be able to do that through trading profits on the new lower income so major asset sales are the only option. If it was a £5-10m debt it would be less of an issue. Perhaps the Pozzos would be prepared to put in another £50m ?
     
  6. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    So by saying ‘at some point’, you agree that doesn’t expressly mean we ‘need’ to sell this summer?
     
  7. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    I'd happily sell both of them. If they're still here when the window shuts we'll see the worst of them. Dennis already started on Monday night with a selfish and truly dreadful performance.
     
  8. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    No we don't need to sell this summer as long as we can be sure we are promoted this season or can sell them for c£40m next summer.
     
  9. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Dennis is always selfish, but not always dreadful.
     
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  10. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    All successful strikers are selfish. Any player who score 10 goals in the Premier for a crap side is NOT dreadful. He always appears to put an effort in unlike Sarr and if he stays fit would guarantee us 20 goals.

    Sarr is a luxury who doesn't have the degree of end product his ability should have and would be a much smaller loss than Dennis would be.
     
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  11. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    because we presumably need the cash?
     
  12. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  13. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I think we are going to have to take this aren't we realistically ? 2 games no goals or assists so far. Extrapolate that over the season and we get 0 over 46 games. Get rid.
     
  14. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Plus we have Vakoun Bayo as a ready mate replacement, who equally won’t score any goals.
     
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  15. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Why go to Forest though. If I’m Dennis, unless they are offering me a sizeable contract, I would rather wait to see what else comes along. Even if that means staying at Watford. High probability Forest get relegated, so next season he’s back playing championship football. Seems a strange move for him.

    Forest have been out of the “big time” for 24 years. They looked horrific against Newcastle. On paper Watford have been a much more successful club over the past decade.

    Unless he’s motivated by money, if I’m him, I’m rejecting Forest.
     
  16. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

  17. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    got to be honest i would be thinking the same thing, it would be a very short term move. i expect forest to be rock bottom at christmas.
     
  18. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Go to Forest and get assurances you can leave if relegated. If he stayed with us 1/ we may not promoted 2/ If we did we are very likely to be relegated.
     
  19. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    We have to remember that footballers are young and a year seems a long time to them. I would say they rarely think more than a season ahead. If Dennis sees a season of Championship football stretching out in front of him and then gets the offer of PL football at a relegation-threatened club it will seem attractive. If the worst came to the worst why wouldn't he expect to move on again next summer?
     
  20. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    History has shown that the vast majority of players would rather play in the PL/top leagues and worry about what happens after that later on. Whatever happens if he stays with us he’s guaranteed a season of Championship football.
     
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  21. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Dennis is sold: "Well, we were always going to lose one of him and Sarr"

    Sarr is then also sold: "Well, he was coming into the last year of his contract and Gino managed to get a decent price for him, which we can re-invest in the squad".

    Money is not reinvested into the squad/we spend it on a couple of Mogi Bayat duds who are either **** or never play: *tumbleweed*

    Like cogwork. I'm sure Cathcart is already being briefed on his upcoming interview with Andrew French where he says that they were both bad apples and didn't want to be here.
     
  22. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Wouldn't £20m up front be a bit pie in the sky?
     
  23. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Forest are a massive massive club I am reliably informed
     
  24. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    True - with hindsight sold him last year, after two Premier Leagueb games he had one goal and one assist. Over a season that would have been 19 goals and 19 assists We could have got £60 million for him.
     
  25. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Erm, that's exactly what he's done these first two games?
     
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  26. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    IF, and I accept it’s a big if, we sell Dennis and it allows us to bring in a proper defender, and a decent forward option, I think we come out better prepared to make a run at promotion. It’s a tough balancing act, but with so many clear weaknesses, I’d be okay with giving up Dennis to improve other areas of the team.

    You just can’t trust our transfer decision making though. We know what Dennis offers, both good and bad. If there was any faith in Pozzbury to deliver replacements that fill the gaping holes in our squad, I’d do the Dennis deal without a second through. We can’t trust them though. We line up with Cathcart and Kabasele 4 years after their sell-by date had expired ffs.
     
  27. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Squad Player

    We simply must keep Sarr as he is on course for 23 goals, 23 assists and to win and then miss 23 penalties.
     
  28. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I hear Birmingham have a decent penalty taker...
     
  29. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    2 games in...

    Dennis - no goals. Dreadful against West Brom

    Sarr - 1 assist and 1 goal.

    Early days but I'd rather have kept Sarr out of the two.
     
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  30. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Fair to a degree and I’m probably more on your side of thinking but then the simple counter argument is, why can’t the same people who found Dennis for £3m and is now valued at £20m, the same Dennis that we all seemingly think so highly of, the same Dennis we think will walk this league, do it again?
     
  31. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Fair offer I think.
     
  32. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Because they also found Kayembe, Samir, King, Tufan, Rose, Pussetto, Bayo, Fletcher etc.

    For every Richarlison and Dennis there 9 or 10 absolutely ***** players.
     
  33. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Sarr has had two moments of quality but has done little else.

    Dennis was brilliant in the first game and then genuinely awful in the second.

    On the basis of my viewing them over the last few seasons rather than just two games, I would far rather have Dennis than Sarr.
     
  34. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Belgian media (HLN?) claiming it’s agreed at £22m, with Brugge getting 10%.

    Not bad, so long as that’s £22m guaranteed - not £16m + £6m in extras under certain conditions.
    In fact I’d hope there are add-ons, but in addition to the £22m. And a sell-on fee of our own.

    He’s definitely PL quality in my opinion. Will join someone like Villa or Leicester in a year or two (depending whether Forest stay up) - someone who’s pushing for Europa League.
     
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  35. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Def £ not € ?
    After Mogi's cut we will probably only be down a £m or two.
     
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