https://www.cnnturk.com/sm/spor/futbol/son-dakika-ozan-tufan-fenerbahceye-donuyor Apparently we've asked Fenerbahce to take him back this month. If they refuse we just won't take up the option on him at the end of the season. At least the club have got something right but who the **** thought he was suited to English football in the first place? I thought he'd be great but I'm not a scout for a Premier League club.
I think he played one nice ball out wide in the League Cup game against Stoke at one point but hard to believe he's made four starts and three sub appearances in the league. Pretty much forgot he was playing every time until I got annoyed the opposition were strolling through our two man midfield of Sissoko and whatever other poor sap was trying to cover Tufan. Straight into the worst ever Watford Premier League XI. Maybe even captain, he's been that shiiiite.
We should never buy a player from Turkey ever again. It always ends up this way. Who's that useless Turkish striker Everton signed? Genuinely one of the worst players ever to play in this league.
That’s better than I though. I’m surprised there’s any colour/stats on there at all. Because I’ve not seen him do any of that stuff.
Cenk Tosun. Awful hair transplant too, which is a miracle considering he’s rich and he comes from Turkey.
Christ I wish you guys would just give him a chance ! His turnover numbers look reasonable. Presume due to the number of apple flavour ones he's stuffed ?
Yes, but then he presumably had it done in Turkey, which is a good marker for wariness of a **** transplant, so...
Well looks like he he here next season ! https://mobile.twitter.com/WD18Fans/status/1479507254399455239
Had a real chance to change everyone's opinion of him today but even against a weakened Leicester team he was utterly abysmal. He completed only 8 passes and lost possession 9 times in the hour he played. Total lack of effort, didn't look bothered and he can **** off back to Turkey if he wants. If we end up having to buy him permanently he might eclipse Gray as the worst ever signing for the club.
The alarm bells should have been ringing a couple of seasons ago when Deeney gave that interview saying that he outsprinted Sema in pre-season drills. Should've binned him on the spot for confirmation that he's the world's slowest winger.
Yeah he was hiding today. Sometimes players obviously aren't good enough but at least they're trying (see Sema and Gray before him). After yet again forgetting Tufan was playing, I made a point of watching him for a few minutes and his positional play was bizarre, he was deliberately going to places where people couldn't pass him the ball. He's utter droppings.
I think the Fenerbahce fans warned us that he's a bit of a sulker if things aren't going his way and we're seeing that now maybe. The club should be checking both the ability and mentality of a player when scouting them. We clearly don't bother with the latter which is why we've had a squad of total arseholes with no backbone over the last few years.
I’m sure we do. That enables us to sign players who might otherwise be £20m players and have the capacity to become that valuable if we can “fix them” as we’ve done with Dennis. Unfortunately not with this guy.
I see Ranieri has commented that Tufan is 'skilful' but hasn't learnt the 'rhythm' of the Premier League. So thats another player brilliantly scouted by Gino and Giaretta who is totally unsuited and/or needs more time than we have just to get up to speed. Worth a punt though apparently.
So that's just Rose, Kucka and Tufan signed this summer who physically can't last a whole game. Added to existing players like Kiko, Gosling and Cleverley. They really have perfected squad building. Louza doesn't count because he's superb.
Some Turkish bloke has just bought Hull and apparently the nutty Turkish fans are all over them now, can’t we offload him to them?
Has skill but hasn't adjusted would suggest he has the ability but you don't how players like this will get on until they get here. That's what a punt is. Who new Dennis would have produced the goals and assists he has this year. Both were punts, one worked and the other hasn't. Most signings are punts especially those from abroad.
I find hard to be too critical of the Tufan deal, at least assuming it's the loan with an option (rather than obligation) that's been advertised. We've taken him from a top Turkish club and he's been a regular international in a Turkey side that until Euro 2020 were no mugs. We haven't paid an awful lot for him. There a plenty of non-footballing reasons that can lead to players not getting up to speed and sometimes the only way to find out for sure is to sign them and see. Despite the fact he's turned out to be utter turd and clearly isn't going to make the grade, I genuinely would say he was worth a punt.
Fair enough to suggest none of us thought Dennis would work out as well as he did, but as far as I know, there was no suggestion that he was ever out of shape, was there?
This. Lots of very promising reviews at the time though clearly there was a riak as there is with most of our signings. Some you win, some you lose.
3 duds alongside the signings of Etebo, Sissoko, King, Dennis for what total cost compared to our peers ? Gosling might be just a squad filler now but played really well last season and played a key role in getting us up. Cleverley has been a great servant and I can't remember the fee but wasn't that high and still a reliable squad player. Kiko has had his moments and I'm sure we'd have replaced him if we had the funds.
I know you like to shout down anyone who criticises the club but even you have to admit they've signed players who have contributed nothing and will contribute nothing this season. You always tell us we have no money as well so it's a shame we're ******* wages away on these players. Watching two or three games of Kucka and Tufan would probably have told them these guys are going to get run into the ground in England.
....and I know you like to find any reason to moan about our club and our owners. As others have pointed out, when you buy at the cheap end of the market you win some, you lose some. Of course I accept that half of our punts won't become regular first teamers for various reasons.