Transfer Talk & Suggestions

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Apr 29, 2018.

  1. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    When was the last time we had a decent transfer window? Mazzari winter window?
     
  2. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Looking back, it probably has to be this one, although it's also notable for including a club-ruiningly stinking transfer chief among it, so it's a judgement call, really:

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    Originally checked that season out because it was when we signed Geri on a loan, before getting him in permanently the next summer, but even taking his signature into account, all around him is hilariously bad (although Foster did have his initial good years, in fairness):

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  3. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    £8m??????
     
  4. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    I was looking at our transfers yesterday - couldn't believe how much we spent in our first year back!
     
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  5. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Yeah - discounted that one due to Gray, but as a whole I agree it's positive.
     
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  6. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    ‘We’ didn’t get money for him.

    Mogi however….
     
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  7. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    2.5 million.

    Must admit thought it was more ..
     
  8. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Update:

    Now we’ve sold Sissoko and repeating what I posted last week.

    £12mil for Cucho (according to AL)
    £2-4mil for Zinckernagel (according to reports)
    £1.7mil for Sissoko

    £15.7-17.7mil made

    Gray left £70k p/w = £3.640mil
    Foster left £40k p/w = £2mil
    N’Koulou left £20k p/w £1mil
    Kucka left £30k p/w =£1.560mil
    King left £50k p/w = £2.6mil

    £10,800,000 in wages gone (approx)

    Then add

    Cucho £20k p/w = £1mil
    Zinckernagel £20k p/w = £1mil
    Sissoko £60k p/w = £3mil

    £5,000,000 (approx)

    So based off that, we’ve “made” approximately £31,500,000 - £33,500,000 so far on outs.

    If reports are true that we get 10% of the Richarlison fee, based off reports that will be another £5-6mil.

    So in total without selling Sarr or Dennis yet

    We’re looking at approximately £36.5mil-£39.5mil “made.”

    Repeating myself but, I know this is a simpleton view however making up the deficit of the £45mil from the fall out of the Prem is going well.

    Selling Sarr and Dennis, between their fees and wages off the books that will be another £40-45mil

    Then the other dross like Masina, Rose, Penaranda, and Pussetto out the door will get another £2-4mil off the books in wages.

    Plus others who might leave on loan like Angelini, Sema, Kalu and Asprilla, so another £10mil in loan fees.

    Bottom line, we have no excuses to not strengthen the squad significantly if all goes to plan in the next week or so.

    I fully expect Messi to sign next Thursday.
     
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  9. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Pretty sure we’ll get something more like £1m-£2m on Richarlison

    99% of the time you receive a % of the profit when the player is sold on, which for us would be anything over £40m
     
  10. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    If only life was that simple, this is WFC, there is such a thing as cash flow, there isn’t such a thing as £36.6-£39.5 million made, but I understand where you are coming from!
     
  11. BeersThen

    BeersThen Reservist

    Personally think Sarr will go to Udinese for an undisclosed fee
     
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  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Bear in mind that;

    Our asset sales will need to be set off against our huge debt (though i hear total debt is only £28m when the correct ex rate is used).

    Our salary savings will go to cover part of the 50% reduction in TV income (what is that, about $60m, can't be bothered to check sorry??).

    So we haven't "made" anything, we will have just serviced some of our debt and saved some of the cost we need to save to avoid adding to our losses and debt. We don't have a nestegg to spend.
     
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  13. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Given he won't be signing a new deal, that would obviously be a gamble and a fairly stupid one, you'd think. We don't get the benefit of him tearing up the champ to help towards promotion, we don't get to repay the connected debt, and the asset itself depreciates as his contract winds down by another year. Not sure why they would do that TBF....
     
  14. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    If he goes to Udinese on a permanent deal, then his contract would almost certainly be extended, so it actually offers scope to protect the asset. The problem is that the best players in Italy rarely go for the big money we’ve looked for previously for Sarr - even De Paul was sold for £35m or so so if he had a good season it’s hard to see how much his value would appreciate.
     
  15. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Why would Sarr commit himself to another few years of imprisonment within the Pozzo network of player trading? Might as well just say 'I'm not playing in the Championship again, you've let all these other players leave on relegation, do the same for me or I'll sit it out and you won't get anything for me'. I'm sure he'd get picked for Senegal regardless and would be nice and fresh for the World Cup.
     
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  16. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Oh sure - can see why he wouldn’t be tempted. Just flagging why the Pozzos would consider a move to Udinese tempting. But £20-25m in cash from an external buyer still preferable.
     
  17. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Unless Sarr genuinely believes he's not good enough to play for a top 6 English side, why would he sign a new contract to play for Udinese, in Italy ?
     
  18. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Because he doesn’t want to play again in the Championship and this is the best top flight opportunity that has become available?
     
  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Ideal replacement for Deulofeu....can you imagine the reaction on here, it would be hilarious.
     
  20. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It would only be undisclosed until we borrow against the instalment payments.
     
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  21. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Pozzo is working on a deal which involves his registration being transferred directly to Macquarie Bank

    He’s gonna be part of their savings and loans division
     
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  22. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    And he'll be renamed Ismaila Spar.

    (a joke for all the German speakers out there)
     
  23. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Norsk og.
     
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  24. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Rey Manaj of Barca getting mentioned now.
     
  25. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Good to see us being linked to so many homegrown players, the club aren't messing about with this rule of eleven business.
     
  26. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Like they would lie to the supporters.
     
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  27. reids

    reids First Team

    We had him on loan at Spezia this season, I'm not convinced.

    Qualities: Decent (but not exceptional) in the air, Has decent (but not exceptional) movement and pace
    Weaknesses: Lacks great decision making to be a quality striker (he takes a lot of shots from places he shouldn't - either takes them too early or far too late). When he's on the ball he keeps his head down a lot and isn't aware of what's happening around him.

    We could (and should) be after someone with a better track record.
     
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  28. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    He was raved about in his early days but he's not really done anything of clout.
    Not even worth a bench position in your opinion? Plus it depends on what they want for him.
     
  29. reids

    reids First Team

    Actually just realised Spezia had an option to buy him for €2.7m which isn't a lot for a Serie A team and it would seem as if we've decided we're not gonna exercise it which isn't a great sign. Yeah he's 25 now and his best ever season was when he scored 12 for Barca B (and that was only the season before last when he would've been 23/24 years old - and that's in the 3rd tier!). He got 5 goals for Spezia (with 2 of those being pens!) in the equivalent mins to 21 full 90 min games, which isn't great at all. As a bench option he might be ok, but we could definitely get someone better (and most likely someone HG) for that spot.
     
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  30. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Is this Nikki's brother?
     
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  31. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Just heard you on the radio young man! Came across very well
     
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  32. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Sitting in for Steve Wright?
     
  33. reids

    reids First Team

    Cheers! Always stumble over my words a bit on stuff like that where I have to think quickly on the spot, mouth moves faster than my brain!
     
  34. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

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  35. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    That's moving slightly faster that our current centre backs!
     
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