The Premier League - 2021-2022

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by The Voice of Reason, Apr 26, 2021.

  1. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Please god don’t let the most entitled deluded set of fans on the planet get what they want, if any set of fans actually deserve their club to be in league one instead it’s Newcastle.
     
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  2. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    I suspect Brazil will, however, and not pick any of them
     
  3. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    “Some hope”? I hope this doesn’t mean you are behind this move. You might as well close the PL if it goes through. They’ll be little point in any club trying to compete anymore. The sheer size of the wealth that would be behind them is staggering and absolutely dwarfs Man City.

    And yet the faithful Newcastle supporters say it’s not the idea of singing Haaland or Chiesa. It’s the idea that they’ll finally be owned by someone nice who cares about the club.

    That person being a proven murderous dictator. But of course, even that’s better than Mike Ashley. As long as they have the cash to splash.

    As I said on a thread not so long ago - everyone hates a Middle Eastern murderous dictator until they offer to buy Mbappe for your football club.

    “Not our place to comment on politics” say the Toon Army - no, of course it isn’t. I’m sure it would have been if this evil dictator didn’t have £300bn.

    I hope the club burns.
     
  4. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Newcastle fans will protest Mike Ashley having spent over half a billion on players since he bought Newcastle, yet they're delighted at being taken over by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund.

    Rancid fanbase.
     
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  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Great post. Desperate times.
    Will be interesting to see whether the likes of Mbappe, Chiesa etc would be interested in going to Newcastle for say £1m a week vs Paris or London for say £500k a week.
    A travesty that extreme wealth has been allowed to pollute and destroy competitive club football.
     
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  6. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    it would be good if some players and managers took a stand and refused to go there, but obviously they won’t.

    The same way they should boycott the ludicrous World Cup in Qatar, where nearly 7000 people have died needlessly, but obviously they won’t do that either.

    The only hope for football now is some sort of salary cap that limits spending and removes any financial advantage beyond a certain point, otherwise it’s only a matter of time before every big club is picked up like this, and idiots like Jamie O’Hara get what they wished for.
     
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  7. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Once the euphoria dies down, the Geordies will soon default to moaning. It's in their DNA. They'll be whinging when they lose the CL final, or miss out by a point behind Man City for the title. I agree with the dreadful fans comment. Just because there are a lot of them, doesn't make the club great.

    But, looking at it from a Watford perspective, it takes away another relegation candidate and that's bad for us in the immediate future.
     
  8. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes, this. Hopefully it doesn't complete before the Jan window, but I suspect it will.
     
  10. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

  11. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    The Newcastle fans offensive has kicked into overdrive, pathetic levels of whataboutery on display, anyone who questions it apparently can’t comment because they might use Uber, Twitter, Disney etc.
     
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  12. DaveWFC

    DaveWFC Five Star Man

    The Newcastle thing is sickening, but it seems not that many people are actually bothered.

    I actually saw someone (who wasn't even a fan of theirs) saying that their fans deserve it because of "all they've been through"!

    The poor little dears....


    But apparently we're all that's wrong with football because we've sacked a few managers.
     
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  13. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Garth Crookes
     
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  14. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Amazing isn’t it? What exactly have they been through in comparison to say, Forest, Sheffield Wednesday etc? They’re a PL club, yet they’re constantly depressed about it. I really don’t understand it. Not belittling mental health here, but it’s like their entire fan base are just depressed in comparison to every other club, but for no real reason. It must be grim up north if football means that much to you that you’re so desperate for a murderous regime to buy your club, to alleviate your ‘suffering’. A bizarre lot.
     
  15. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I always hoped England would withdraw and tell FIFA where to stick its Qatar World Cup.
     
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  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  17. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Too much money involved. Sponsorship mainly. I don’t think Nike would take too kindly to them not being able to sell yet another set of £100 England shirts to stupid parents.

    Nor would the players be too happy about having to forgo major tournament appearance bonuses for flashing the latest Adidas or Under Armour kicks and underwear.

    And don’t forget the books that generally appear after the tournaments too. I’m looking forward to ‘My abject failure as England captain at three tournaments’ by Harry Kane.
     
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  18. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I'd have smooth as silk Des Lynam back.
     
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  19. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Squad Player

  20. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin



    obligatory YouTube video.
     
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  21. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Lol wrong thread!
     
  22. scummybear

    scummybear Reservist

    I have mixed feelings about the Newcastle takeover, sure the potential owners ring alarm bells but the moral threshold for PL club ownership was passed 15-20 years ago. It's a bit late to start banning people when you've already got the likes of Abramavich and Man City running clubs, that ship has sailed.

    The main thing I have against it is it's one less club in the relegation battle, so we lose out.

    But all this hatred for Newcastle fans is bemusing. I love it up there, every away game I've been to has been great (bar the football) and it's the highlight of my season. The first time I went, me and my old man parked at a metro station on the edge of town and went and asked for help with which ticket we need to get to the stadium. The staff member called over a passerby in a Newcastle top and asked them to take us to the ground, and these two lads took us the whole way! It was literally half an hour, but they were happy to help.

    Even if they enjoy a whinge at times, Geordies are lovely people. If you want the most entitles fans look no further than Spurs and Arsenal!
     
  23. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Will be interesting to see what happens with Bruce, presumably he’ll be paid off, but then what, Conte?

    Hopefully they sack Bruce and then can’t het a half decent manager in, but ultimately money talks.
     
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  25. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    The Premier League ceased to be a football competition some time ago. It is just another investment/tax/laundering opportunity. Not just the PL either - who is the largest landowner of London? The Queen's Crown Estate? .... No, it is in fact Qatar.

    We are absolute mugs. The Middle-East have long-known that their oil-wealth is unsustainable and we have handed them a golden ticket to sustainability by allowing these human rights abusers to own the UK. Not long ago all they had were a few rocks. Now they have Man City, Aston Villa, Newcastle, Everton, Sheffield United, The Olympic Village, the Shard, Harrods, City Airport and City Hall to name a few.
     
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  26. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    The most absurd thing about it is that the PL are ok with it, because they’ve been given assurances the club won’t actually be run by Saudi Arabia directly, but by their sovereign wealth fund instead. Obviously that’s ok then, and there is absolutely no way Saudi Arabia have any control at all over their own sovereign wealth fund, none at all.
     
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  27. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I presume growing pains will mean they'll have to do the Man City thing and appoint a big name manager with lower expectations to start with a la Sven?
     
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  28. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    You're absolutely right. We should take it all back. They can keep Sheffield United though.
     
  29. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I commented on this on Reddit talking about how the glee it had been received with was distasteful to say the least, and some Newcastle fans responded in agreement, saying it was hard to support the club as a result, etc - others replied defensively, saying they didn't care because they had had 'such a bad time for the last 15 years' - that I was 'trying to make people feel guilty for having some hope', and one even said that they 'loved their club because they had been brought up on title challenges and Champions League runs' so this was just a return to form/allowing them to love the club again.

    Apart from the rancid, despicable nature of that claim to being a fan, is it just me or did Newcastle basically never have title challenges and Champions League runs - they challenged, what, one season, and ended up falling away massively? How many seasons have they spent in the Champions League ever?

    Not all, but a significant proportion of responses show how utterly repulsive they and their response to this is.
     
  30. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    *Aston Villa is owned by China, and Moshiri at Everton fled Iran as a teenager before the revolution and his company is Russian; there are also suggestions from the Paradise Papers that the money he used to buy Everton was actually an indirect investment carried out on behalf of Russian Oligarch Alisher Usmanov - not that that makes them amazingly better, but they have nothing to do with the Middle East in that sense.
     
  31. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    He does seem to be the presenter de jour, but I'd be surprised - I've watched him on BT Sport European broadcasts, as well as The One Show recently, and he doesn't have that ease as a presenter at all yet - still seems like he's reading from a script the entire time, and can be quite awkward/terrible at thinking on his feet when it comes to interviews/questions. Alex Scott is a far more natural presence, though I think it's much more likely it would be Crouch.
     
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  32. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Villa's owner is Egyptian and the richest Arab.
     
  33. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Oh, apologies, I was still stuck in my head on Tony Xia! At least their current ownership is actually split between the Egyptian and an American billionaire, Wes Edens, owner of the Milwaukee Bucks, so I'm not sure it's much of a soft power driver for them.
     
  34. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    If we heard the Pozzos had sold us to these guys who were planning to spend £billions in the transfer market to win us the CL, we'd be up in arms wouldn't we. Wouldn't we ?
     
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  35. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I did even acknowledge the difficulty in this as a fan in my initial posts, in fairness, and still got bullshyt bile back - I would find it very, very hard and would prompt a great deal of soul-searching. I'd probably just go and follow my second team, the glorious Red Devils, full time!

    One thing I will say is that, as it stands, the plan is SUPPOSEDLY not to mentally bankroll them a la City - the figures thrown about are £200m over four seasons. I find it hard to believe that will not change, but as it stands right now FFP stands in the way of them just injecting billions to transform the club overnight.
     

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