Why is Deeney STILL untouchable?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by NathWFC, Aug 17, 2019.

  1. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Makes our fans look sensible
     
  2. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

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  3. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Not having that. Go look at the spurs fans comments on the tweet I just posted.
     
  4. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I mean, I would argue that you should absolutely have that, and then just also have it for the Spurs fans; possibly have even more.
     
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  5. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Fair play.
     
  6. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Imagine for a second Watford had sold Troy Deeney last summer. They then used the funds and brought in a new #9, which is who we’ve been watching this season. I don’t think there would be many people fighting his corner.

    Deeney’s living entirely off past glories.
     
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  7. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Considering how bad Troy is that doesn't look particularly good for Welbeck by comparison tbh, it says that Welbeck is better at running, but that's obvious. Most the differences aren't even that big. For Welbeck winning a higher %age of duels it could just be that we don't just aimlessly hoof it in the direction of his head so much, even when he's being double marked.

    For xG, which is more important, they're pretty similar, and Deeney is actually miles ahead on xA which is a big indictment of Welbeck really.

    As bad as Deeney has been this year, Welbeck has still been a big disappointment given his reputation.
     
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  8. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    DISLIKE - I wish we still had that button :p
     
  9. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Welbeck has looked good. You can see why he’s highly rated, but sadly you can also see why he’s known as being injury prone.
     
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  10. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

  11. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Who could we have afforded with all that money?

    What, £5m?
     
  12. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    That’s not my point. Draw a line between Deeney 2010-2019 and Deeney 2019-20. He’d be judged harsher on his current form without having that good will of the years before.
     
  13. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Fair enough mate.

    We'd have needed to find some cash for a new no. 9

    I thought we might, with Deeney as backup.

    Welbeck with his fitness issues was never going to be dat guy, as they say.
     
  14. King Dev

    King Dev Squad Player

    I'll give you 2010-2016 at absolute best, it's not even an arguement he's been shambolic since then.
     
  15. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Eeyore!!!
     
  16. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Reminds me of Pinocchio
     
  17. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Do you think there’s anyone at the club who can see what we see with Troy?

    That being he can’t run, turn, pass, shoot or basically contribute anything other than penalties?
     
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  18. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    If only other players in the team could do what he can't.
    This is the problem, however bad TD may be no one has showed why they should take his place.
     
  19. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Give Pedro a chance maybe?
     
  20. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Welbeck can
     
  21. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    But he should of scored 3 or 4 with the chances he had.
     
  22. Tim Barber

    Tim Barber Academy Graduate

    He is a disgrace as is Doucoure. Both came back with totally different priorities from what our club needed. Please get out of our club and allow us to rebuild
     
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  23. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    But the point is he’s probably had more chances to score since the re-start than Troy had all season - and he wasn’t even picked all the time.

    I’m just not sure what Troy contributes but I’m happy to listen to someone point it out to me. But when doing so, I’m talking about now and not 3 years ago.
     
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  24. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    He played well today in a deeper role...
     
  25. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Penalties and the occasional header when defending a set-piece. That's it.
     
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  26. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    TD has kept his place due to the lack of alternatives, not because he was great.

    I wish we had given Pedro more time to see what he could do.
     
  27. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    He contributed more then that, but not enough to be our main striker.
     
  28. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    He's talking about himself and his future at the club now and how it could be his last game.

    Thank **** for that. Bye.
     
  29. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Quite arrogant about it too. What a shame his legacy ends like this.
     
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  30. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Poor interview, that.
     
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  31. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Very much came across like he fully expects a Premier League side to take him on.

    Lol at any club that does.
     
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  32. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky First Year Pro

    Would somebody really buy him? They would have seen him play over the last couple of seasons and would also surely be aware of the baggage that comes with him. I can't see it myself, not for money.
     
  33. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    In fairness I quite liked that interview.

    You see it’s not about ‘hating’ Troy or any player. In fact I used to hate hearing any of of players get boo’d at games , can’t really understand it unless they have done or said something bad about the club.

    People abusing players on social media is poor and again I’m not into that.

    It’s just frustrating to see a player constantly used ahead of all others and spoken about constantly as the ‘main man’ yet delivering so little on the pitch.

    I’ll always appreciate his good times here, but I do hope he moves on now.
     
  34. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    If they believe the media hype they might.
     
  35. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    He played well today. I will grant him that after being very poor in the other games. He did bust a gut (a rather big one). Linked up well which shows he does need someone to play alongside him. But he has become a millstone around the team. It's Watford FC. Not Deeney FC.

    I am afraid he has tarnished his legacy with his antics in the last season or so. I would keep him but remove the captaincy from him. See how he reacts. If he loves the club that much he will stick around. If it's about his own ego then goodbye. In any case he should be a substitute for most matches. I would play an aggressive pressing style with pace down both flanks.Puss and Sarr. Let Pedro and Welbeck build an understanding. They will fleece most of the leaden footed defences in the Chump.
     

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